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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
edit: on the topic of nerd though, I don't see why or where that would be a legitimate insult. Here it's a playful, joking word basically only used in the context of "Oh, you're such a nerd!". It's not really used very seriously, and I think it's the same with casters calling their viewers collectively "nerds". Really though, playing SC2 and being on TL is pretty nerdy  | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
A nerd, by my understanding is someone who is passionate and dedicated to their field of interest/hobby. Originally a nerd stems from technological "geeks", a social classing to those who were engaged in everything technological: science-fiction, early computer and video-games, etc.Generally these labels begin and fulfill their duties of dismissing people in high-school. Nerds are neither "fanatics", movie "buffs" or geeks, they are socially awkward, but moderately more intelligent (often in the field of science). With today's major changes in technology, nerd has been more loose with its use and targets. Hence the verbatim of it such as: "I'm nerding out over this book" which usually elicits excitement or deep investment of emotions or interest on a specific object, film, piece of music, etc. People still refer to themselves as nerds, but now there is an assumption or expectancy to categorizing your "nerd" aspect, are you video-game nerd, sci-fi, nerd, etc. etc. This is because the originally loaded negative definition of "nerd" has lost its practicality given that technology is introduced to children at a young age and social networks become an integral part of their life. Socially awkward kids are now refined or verbal over the internet since they are no talking face-to-face to the person (and thus be insecure about their physical appearance) and they can be as open or closed as they want about their interests. In addition, communication or forming communities over the internet boosts confidence in socially awkward people because they now have an area they can go to to either escape from the social real world or to leisurely spend time there when not at school but boost their conversation skills and adaptation with peers (especially those with similar or specific tastes that the person can identify with). Thus a "nerd" no longer contains the viewpoints that people might be misassociating with. Because a "nerd" has so many ways of dictating one's deep interest in something, the label to help dismiss someone is seldom use in today's youth subculture. In reality, when iconic people address the audience as nerds, it's just to sum up the atmosphere and overall enjoyment of the games and players. If you take your interest to a new level of it occupying a large amount of your time (see: nerding or being deeply interested or passionate), then they are probably talking to you. If you think you're not a nerd, then disregard what they're saying, they're not addressing it to you. Thus your question: So? Are you a nerd? would have an answer such as: Who gives a shit? because in reality, it means jack-all and pertains to practically fucking everything. I really hope this word diarrhea stomps out a lot of crap. | ||
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SpoR
United States1542 Posts
And don't tell me it's because its because its not related to technology because you can have a chess nerd, a food nerd, an animal nerd etc and they sound kind of silly right? | ||
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SpoR
United States1542 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GC51T.png) she called me a 'nerd ass', then retracted the diss when I told her it wasn't her fault. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On November 04 2011 18:00 SpoR wrote: See you are saying nerds are just fanatics or enthusiastic. That's not really what a nerd is because you could apply the same usage to someone who is passionate about playing and talking sports a sports nerd. But that doesn't really make sense because nerds are weak, and sports players are generally strong. And don't tell me it's because its because its not related to technology because you can have a chess nerd, a food nerd, an animal nerd etc and they sound kind of silly right? Yes, enthusiasts in specific divisions. Bookworms are for those who enjoy books and aren't "jocks" short for "sport jocks" for people who like sports? . But that doesn't really make sense because nerds are weak, and sports players are generally strong. Sports players are more athletic, presumably stronger, yes. Nerds are weak, they're just weaker in comparison. At the beginning of my definition, I made an association between technology and nerds, I already told you what you said not to tell you. In addition, "nerding" out and being a "nerd" is completely different. Then again, these are pointless social labels, to define it would be to give it proper credibility and validity (so my bad) when in reality, they're just dumb stupid references to someone's interest in a specific field listed in my original definition. This all doesn't explain why you'd be offended whatsoever. The whole affair seems silly and trivial. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On November 04 2011 18:04 SpoR wrote: Perfect example i forgot about from earlier today: she called me a 'nerd ass', then retracted the diss when I told her it wasn't her fault. Too bad a "nerd ass" makes no fucking sense. I don't want to demean your friend, but your example is from someone who just adds a description to the word "ass" to teasingly insult someone. Don't even know what that could mean or how that could be perceived as "nerd" having negative connotations beyond those who are already close-minded and misinformed (which are totally acceptable nowadays anyways, since it hardly matters). | ||
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SpoR
United States1542 Posts
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UltimateHurl
Ireland591 Posts
I dunno, nerds being weak seems like a kind of outdated concept at this stage to me, maybe just from experiencing nerds, but I'd contest the statement "sports players are generally strong". Maybe that's true of popular sports in the US, but there are plenty of counter-examples, soccer players are good at running, not strong, for example. For a more obvious example darts is a popular sport in the UK, and the players are usually quite heavy guys. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
I'm sure "embed" is difficult amongst equally technologically-introduced youths who use the same sites as you for entertainment. It's more a cop-out than a proper example: instead of saying; "It won't embed", she dismissed blame and deflected with an insult. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On November 04 2011 18:11 UltimateHurl wrote: The way I read Torte's definition (might be through the rose-tinted-glasses of my own definition) isn't that nerds are just fanatics or enthusiasts. Nerds are enthusiastic, but with a lot of knowledge on the topic of the particular thing they like. Someone who like soccer is a soccer fan (and really that can be to any degree these days), but someone who can tell you the entire team line-up for the 1962 friendly between Man Utd and Liverpool is something more than a fan, they have clearly researched and learned their interest, I would happily call them a soccer nerd. I dunno, nerds being weak seems like a kind of outdated concept at this stage to me, maybe just from experiencing nerds, but I'd contest the statement "sports players are generally strong". Maybe that's true of popular sports in the US, but there are plenty of counter-examples, soccer players are good at running, not strong, for example. For a more obvious example darts is a popular sport in the UK, and the players are usually quite heavy guys. I support this equally plausible and long-winded definition that helps distinguish characteristics of a "nerd". | ||
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SpoR
United States1542 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On November 04 2011 18:19 SpoR wrote: ok tell me that this guy would not be offended, and that you would be perfectly ok walking up to this guy (if you knew in fact he was rasta, and lifted weights) and called him a rasta nerd or workout nerd. IMG]rasta/workout nerd guy that is suppose to be initmidating, but looks silly and fun and enjoyable to hang around with given his silly pose and accompanying friend in an equally silly outfit[IMG I would be ok telling him he was something if he truly was and we both had a concurred and objective understanding of what a "nerd" was. Review my definition and UltimateHurl's please, in addition, your conveyance of your point is flawed because you're assuming that images or pictures of this particular person would be intimidating, but from what we can deduce, he appears to be a rather sound and outgoing person with social aspects that would allow me to properly assess his reactions and responses in order to better formulate what I would want to say without fully and unintentionally insulting him trying to point out a fact that would prove you wrong or show you how flawed your viewpoint is or rather how flawed your attempt to portray this person as someone I wouldn't say things you challenge me to say publicly. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Final words: if you like games, you like games. If you don't like being called something or you think that that name or word isn't you, then ignore it. ezpz | ||
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Piste
6174 Posts
I haven't played games for god knows. don't even have bw installed anymore. But I still watch msl/osl/pl! | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On November 04 2011 18:33 Rekrul wrote: Don't give fuck if I fall into the category of gamer or nerd or whatever. It's meaningless anyways. Just chillin. Essentially this under 100 words, glad someone could do it. | ||
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
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thesideshow
930 Posts
Doesn't stop them from being my friends. People like you for who you are. And if you can't even like yourself, then I don't know what to tell you. The negative connotations attached to the word "nerd" (such as social awkwardness) are just attached. If you call yourself a nerd, and you aren't socially awkward, then no one will think you are anyway. Just be confident with yourself. In essence : What Torte said. | ||
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
On November 04 2011 18:04 SpoR wrote: Perfect example i forgot about from earlier today: she called me a 'nerd ass', then retracted the diss when I told her it wasn't her fault. well you were being a bit of a condescending dick. | ||
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