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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 05:21:19
October 11 2010 17:56 GMT
#1
Hi everyone.

I intend to apply for statistics phd at the end of this year. I want some inputs on where I should apply (for US-schools).

Now, I already know the universities with famous statistics departments, such as Chicago, Stanford, Berkeley, Columbia, etc.; although I will take a shot at most of the universities I listed above, my application is not that strong so my chances of getting in one of those places is not that great; thus I am hoping for some places that are... say above average.

As you may know, there are MANY universities in the US and it's quite a task to just go through all of them mechanically. If you think you know any 'above average' schools for statistics, please write them down in the replies (tell me the reasons too, if you can... such as a certain good supervisor, etc.). Don't worry if you are biased; since I will most certainly do some research on my own.

Please note that I don't care about "student life", "hot women", "parties", or "ugly campus architecture".


EDIT3: I guess I will take a shot at the following:


UofT (uoft will pretty much accept me for sure. But I am only taking it as a last resort)
Columbia
Cornell
UPenn
Chicago
NC - Chapel Hill
UW - Seattle
Harvard
Yale
UM - Ann Arbor
UC - Los Angeles
UC - Berkeley
University of Illinois - Urbana-Champaign
OSU (thanks for the suggestion Molybdenum)
Duke (thanks for the suggestion Empyrean)
CMU (thanks for the suggestion Empyrean)


https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
October 11 2010 18:02 GMT
#2
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 11 2010 18:05 GMT
#3
On October 12 2010 03:02 Jathin wrote:
Are you looking for "diamond in the roughs" for Statistics? Because most big-name schools have strong Stats departments, but you probably already know that.


Diamond in the rough? Do you mean a mediocre school with a strong statistics department? Yes, something like that.

I don't think all big-name schools have a strong statistics department, however. Some schools don't even have a statistics department at all (like Princeton).
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
October 11 2010 18:11 GMT
#4
But Princeton houses half of the CSL, so it's okay =D.
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ThE_OsToJiY
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada1167 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 18:16:57
October 11 2010 18:13 GMT
#5
Yes, having a good CSL team is important. As are attractive women, so I would definitely pick off these criterion rather than something as trivial as academics.


Also, princeton has a small and easily crushed CSL team, I don't know what your talking about.
@ostojiy
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 11 2010 18:13 GMT
#6
On October 12 2010 03:11 DarthThienAn wrote:
But Princeton houses half of the CSL, so it's okay =D.

I'd love to stalk hazelnut, but unfortunately they don't have the program I want
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GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 18:16:45
October 11 2010 18:16 GMT
#7
I got my ph.d. in genetics. during that time i received 24k / year to live from school as stipend. How much are statistics stipends? depending on the city you chose, you could have an easy time or a hard time. I was glad that I did grad school in dallas, tx (univ. of texas southwestern medical center) because it was a very cheap city to live in. Additionally it's a top ranked school (rank9 in my field in U.S.). anyway, i was happy because i could live a normal life in a decent apartment for a reasonable price while going to a good school. Some people i knew that went to grad schools in places like new york or california really suffered due to lack of funds. 24k / year = normal life in dallas while 24k / year = poverty at best in L.A.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 11 2010 18:18 GMT
#8
On October 12 2010 03:16 GreatFall wrote:
I got my ph.d. in genetics. during that time i received 24k / year to live from school as stipend. How much are statistics stipends? depending on the city you chose, you could have an easy time or a hard time. I was glad that I did grad school in dallas, tx (univ. of texas southwestern medical center) because it was a very cheap city to live in. Additionally it's a top ranked school (rank9 in my field in U.S.). anyway, i was happy because i could live a normal life in a decent apartment for a reasonable price while going to a good school. Some people i knew that went to grad schools in places like new york or california really suffered due to lack of funds. 24k / year = normal life in dallas while 24k / year = poverty at best in L.A.


24k per year (after tuition) should be enough for me anywhere. I don't spend much.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
YiP
Profile Joined April 2010
United States17 Posts
October 11 2010 18:38 GMT
#9
If you're looking for good name recognition, I'd go with any UC (Particularly UCLA). You will have to pay out of state tuition (unless of course you live in California), but the education is usually top class. They usually have pretty good grad departments, though I dunno how they'll fare after the budget cuts. Also, most UC's (except for LA and Berkeley) are located in small towns, so usually the cost of living is cheap (For instance, UC Riverside monthly rent averages $450 for your own room).

If you don't care about where you live, apply to state Universities, like University of Colorado Boulder, University of Oregon, SUNY's. If you are Canadian, I don't think you'll have to apply for an F1 visa (don't quote me on it), but you will have to pay out of state tuition because you won't be able to apply for residency at that respective state.

Good luck. Going back to school is def the smarter move during these hard times.
:D
mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
October 11 2010 18:40 GMT
#10
24k is quite good. I only got 18k at USC and it was tough as hell getting by in LA. Don't discount quality of life stuff when looking into grad school. I ended up giving up on my phd and though there were a lot of factors the situation certainly wasn't helped by the financial difficulties and things that went with it (like living in a shitty neighborhood where you car gets broken in to, having to deal with constantly changing roommates, etc).

Academics wise my advice would be to look for specific professors you're really in to learning from and eventually having on your committees.
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YiP
Profile Joined April 2010
United States17 Posts
October 11 2010 18:44 GMT
#11
Oh god, the area around USC is terrible...
:D
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 18:47:23
October 11 2010 18:46 GMT
#12
On October 12 2010 03:38 YiP wrote:
If you're looking for good name recognition, I'd go with any UC (Particularly UCLA). You will have to pay out of state tuition (unless of course you live in California), but the education is usually top class. They usually have pretty good grad departments, though I dunno how they'll fare after the budget cuts. Also, most UC's (except for LA and Berkeley) are located in small towns, so usually the cost of living is cheap (For instance, UC Riverside monthly rent averages $450 for your own room).

If you don't care about where you live, apply to state Universities, like University of Colorado Boulder, University of Oregon, SUNY's. If you are Canadian, I don't think you'll have to apply for an F1 visa (don't quote me on it), but you will have to pay out of state tuition because you won't be able to apply for residency at that respective state.

Good luck. Going back to school is def the smarter move during these hard times.


I will assume I get stipend as a (international) PhD student in any of UC. Having to pay tuition for a PhD degree is somewhat an absurd idea.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
October 11 2010 19:12 GMT
#13
Pretty much every department will fund students at the PhD level unless its a really small/poor department. That being said grad school I would say is more about the faculty you work with and learn from then the school itself. Plenty of "low teir" universities end up having random high teir grad programs because of high profile faculty in that department. Whatever schools you want to look at though make sure you have a lot of contact with the main faculty you will be with as its crucial that you get along with them. As for stats I know nothing about that since im an Anthropology grad student
Never Knows Best.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
October 11 2010 19:29 GMT
#14
Harvey mudd ofc.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
October 11 2010 19:30 GMT
#15
On October 12 2010 03:46 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 03:38 YiP wrote:
If you're looking for good name recognition, I'd go with any UC (Particularly UCLA). You will have to pay out of state tuition (unless of course you live in California), but the education is usually top class. They usually have pretty good grad departments, though I dunno how they'll fare after the budget cuts. Also, most UC's (except for LA and Berkeley) are located in small towns, so usually the cost of living is cheap (For instance, UC Riverside monthly rent averages $450 for your own room).

If you don't care about where you live, apply to state Universities, like University of Colorado Boulder, University of Oregon, SUNY's. If you are Canadian, I don't think you'll have to apply for an F1 visa (don't quote me on it), but you will have to pay out of state tuition because you won't be able to apply for residency at that respective state.

Good luck. Going back to school is def the smarter move during these hard times.


I will assume I get stipend as a (international) PhD student in any of UC. Having to pay tuition for a PhD degree is somewhat an absurd idea.


Believe it or not, there are countries where students must pay for PHD tuition
Glaven
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada554 Posts
October 11 2010 19:38 GMT
#16
On October 12 2010 04:29 OutlaW- wrote:
Harvey mudd ofc.


Isn't harvey mudd primarily an undergraduate college? Or am I mistaken?
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OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
October 11 2010 19:43 GMT
#17
On October 12 2010 04:30 thedeadhaji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 03:46 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 12 2010 03:38 YiP wrote:
If you're looking for good name recognition, I'd go with any UC (Particularly UCLA). You will have to pay out of state tuition (unless of course you live in California), but the education is usually top class. They usually have pretty good grad departments, though I dunno how they'll fare after the budget cuts. Also, most UC's (except for LA and Berkeley) are located in small towns, so usually the cost of living is cheap (For instance, UC Riverside monthly rent averages $450 for your own room).

If you don't care about where you live, apply to state Universities, like University of Colorado Boulder, University of Oregon, SUNY's. If you are Canadian, I don't think you'll have to apply for an F1 visa (don't quote me on it), but you will have to pay out of state tuition because you won't be able to apply for residency at that respective state.

Good luck. Going back to school is def the smarter move during these hard times.


I will assume I get stipend as a (international) PhD student in any of UC. Having to pay tuition for a PhD degree is somewhat an absurd idea.


Believe it or not, there are countries where students must pay for PHD tuition


I suggest you stop assuming and get ready to be paying hefty funds my friend!
troi oi thang map nai!!!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 11 2010 19:49 GMT
#18
On October 12 2010 04:30 thedeadhaji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 03:46 Sufficiency wrote:
On October 12 2010 03:38 YiP wrote:
If you're looking for good name recognition, I'd go with any UC (Particularly UCLA). You will have to pay out of state tuition (unless of course you live in California), but the education is usually top class. They usually have pretty good grad departments, though I dunno how they'll fare after the budget cuts. Also, most UC's (except for LA and Berkeley) are located in small towns, so usually the cost of living is cheap (For instance, UC Riverside monthly rent averages $450 for your own room).

If you don't care about where you live, apply to state Universities, like University of Colorado Boulder, University of Oregon, SUNY's. If you are Canadian, I don't think you'll have to apply for an F1 visa (don't quote me on it), but you will have to pay out of state tuition because you won't be able to apply for residency at that respective state.

Good luck. Going back to school is def the smarter move during these hard times.


I will assume I get stipend as a (international) PhD student in any of UC. Having to pay tuition for a PhD degree is somewhat an absurd idea.


Believe it or not, there are countries where students must pay for PHD tuition


Well, if I need to pay tuition for a PHD @ UC (or any other school) I am not going there. It's just ridiculous. I understand for professional schools you have to pay tuition, but a PHD is a 4-5 years commitment which results in very limited earning potential. Without funding it is impossible to do a PHD and be debt-free 10 years after graduation.

https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16978 Posts
October 11 2010 19:54 GMT
#19
If you're looking for Bayesian Statistics, CMU and Duke have the strongest departments in the world.

Of course, obligatory Stanford, Cal, etc.
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sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
October 11 2010 19:57 GMT
#20
Boston University

In the middle of the city, clubs, hot college chicks. AHMG I'm having a blast here.
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