So after reading the winner's interview for the PL Finals and seeing how Boxer and Fantasy both spent a long time planning a super awesome strategy just to beat Jaedong in the ace match, and knowing that oov is there to give Fantasy strategies and help also, does anyone else think that this OSL Semifinals coming up between Jaedong and Fantasy is going to feel even more epic than the OSL finals before when they faced?
It seems like the three SKT players are going to be working together in full force even more now to beat Jaedong, and I think it's really amazingly epic.
On one side you have a single, lone hero, with amazing raw talent, and on the other side you have another equally talented player, with two huge, legendary masterminds standing behind each shoulder, meticulously planning and plotting genius strategies, and whispering secrets and strategies into his ears. Jaedong is going to be facing three players all merged into one come semifinals time, and after seeing that coming unprepared for it will make him lose like in the ace match of PL, he is really going to have to ascend to another level of play if he wants to win (like a super saiyan lolol). And, being a fan of Jaedong, I can think of nothing more epic in the world than for him to actually do it, using the anger from the PL losses as motivation, and rise to the occasion and pull off a win against not only Fantasy, but three of the best players of all time fused into one.
If Jaedong can pull back and not let this affect him and win his series against Fantasy, then he'll really prove that he's on a level that other players aren't.
I really wouldn't say fantasy is on par with Jaedong in terms of raw talent. The only reason he has really been able to keep up have been the incredible strategies crafted by two previous bonjwas and even they weren't enough to win him the last OSL. Jaedong will come through.
On August 09 2009 11:16 Fr33t wrote: I really wouldn't say fantasy is on par with Jaedong in terms of raw talent. The only reason he has really been able to keep up have been the incredible strategies crafted by two previous bonjwas and even they weren't enough to win him the last OSL. Jaedong will come through.
I feel like this really doesn't give Fantasy enough credit. You have to realize that if it was all just about learning strategies from the Terran masters, Canata would have broken out 3 years ago. To paraphrase Fakesteve, "Jaedong is better, but Fantasy is smarter." While the trigger in Fantasy's success is certainly the aid of oov and Boxer, to say that a large portion of it isn't his own talent seems to oversimplify things. The ability to process 9 years of professional Starcraft experience is not an easy feat.
On August 09 2009 11:16 Fr33t wrote: I really wouldn't say fantasy is on par with Jaedong in terms of raw talent. The only reason he has really been able to keep up have been the incredible strategies crafted by two previous bonjwas and even they weren't enough to win him the last OSL. Jaedong will come through.
I feel like this really doesn't give Fantasy enough credit. You have to realize that if it was all just about learning strategies from the Terran masters, Canata would have broken out 3 years ago. To paraphrase Fakesteve, "Jaedong is better, but Fantasy is smarter." While the trigger in Fantasy's success is certainly the aid of oov and Boxer, to say that a large portion of it isn't his own talent seems to oversimplify things. The ability to process 9 years of professional Starcraft experience is not an easy feat.
How is fantasy smarter? What decisions does he make in-game (TvZ, not TvP/TvT) that warrant this? I remember this video came up a while ago: When has fantasy made decisions like this? To be honest, I haven't watched very many games from fantasy. The only ones I can really remember were from his BO5 with Jaedong, but every single game he played was rehearsed and planned-out. Like he prepared everything out thoroughly beforehand and then hammered it out in practice. Sure, he doesn't play like a robot, but nothing he did struck me as "smart," either.
On August 09 2009 11:16 Fr33t wrote: I really wouldn't say fantasy is on par with Jaedong in terms of raw talent. The only reason he has really been able to keep up have been the incredible strategies crafted by two previous bonjwas and even they weren't enough to win him the last OSL. Jaedong will come through.
I feel like this really doesn't give Fantasy enough credit. You have to realize that if it was all just about learning strategies from the Terran masters, Canata would have broken out 3 years ago. To paraphrase Fakesteve, "Jaedong is better, but Fantasy is smarter." While the trigger in Fantasy's success is certainly the aid of oov and Boxer, to say that a large portion of it isn't his own talent seems to oversimplify things. The ability to process 9 years of professional Starcraft experience is not an easy feat.
How is fantasy smarter? What decisions does he make in-game (TvZ, not TvP/TvT) that warrant this? I remember this video came up a while ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6R7maYAAKk&eurl=http:// When has fantasy made decisions like this? To be honest, I haven't watched very many games from fantasy. The only ones I can really remember were from his BO5 with Jaedong, but every single game he played was rehearsed and planned-out. Like he prepared everything out thoroughly beforehand and then hammered it out in practice. Sure, he doesn't play like a robot, but nothing he did struck me as "smart," either.
Why don't TvP/TvT count? His contain break against HiyA was fantastic and the decision to leave his tanks at home on day 1 vs Jd was brilliant.
On August 09 2009 11:16 Fr33t wrote: I really wouldn't say fantasy is on par with Jaedong in terms of raw talent. The only reason he has really been able to keep up have been the incredible strategies crafted by two previous bonjwas and even they weren't enough to win him the last OSL. Jaedong will come through.
I feel like this really doesn't give Fantasy enough credit. You have to realize that if it was all just about learning strategies from the Terran masters, Canata would have broken out 3 years ago. To paraphrase Fakesteve, "Jaedong is better, but Fantasy is smarter." While the trigger in Fantasy's success is certainly the aid of oov and Boxer, to say that a large portion of it isn't his own talent seems to oversimplify things. The ability to process 9 years of professional Starcraft experience is not an easy feat.
How is fantasy smarter? What decisions does he make in-game (TvZ, not TvP/TvT) that warrant this? I remember this video came up a while ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6R7maYAAKk&eurl=http:// When has fantasy made decisions like this? To be honest, I haven't watched very many games from fantasy. The only ones I can really remember were from his BO5 with Jaedong, but every single game he played was rehearsed and planned-out. Like he prepared everything out thoroughly beforehand and then hammered it out in practice. Sure, he doesn't play like a robot, but nothing he did struck me as "smart," either.
Honestly, when you watched that game originally, did you notice Flash's smart thinking?
If not, I doubt you would be able to notice the thinking behind Fantasy's plays.
EPT
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