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Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-17 00:50:57
July 17 2009 00:38 GMT
#1
Hi liquidians,

I want to make a .exe that does basic windows functions in this particular order : search file / copy it / create new folder / paste said file into new folder.

I never programmed before, what language / program should i use ?

Thanks in advance


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ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
July 17 2009 00:41 GMT
#2
ProgRamMing.
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Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
July 17 2009 00:42 GMT
#3
Feck i removed the secoNd m...
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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
July 17 2009 00:48 GMT
#4
Are you serious?
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
July 17 2009 00:51 GMT
#5
Yes, edited OP for clarification i hope
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-17 00:52:07
July 17 2009 00:51 GMT
#6
You know you can do this with a batch file right?

If you insist on having an executable, vb/vc++/C# can all do the trick. It's essentially a wrapper around a system call.

Do you know the commands for these tasks?

dir /s/b [file name]
mkdir [new dir name]
cp [dirs found in first step] [new dir name]

There are probably specific libraries for these tasks as well, but I think sys calls will be the easiest.
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Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
July 17 2009 01:03 GMT
#7
So i can input the commands you gave me into VB and get a .exe ? (no specific library?)
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 17 2009 01:05 GMT
#8
If you had absolutely no previous experience in programming and you are not Einstein, it might take you one to two weeks to figure out how to do it properly.

For something easy and accessible, go with Visual Basic.
:]
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-17 01:20:43
July 17 2009 01:19 GMT
#9
Would this work :

dir /s/b [file1.txt]
mkdir [F:/My Papers]
cp [ ? ] [file1.txt]

I am confused about what to put instead of the "?"
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Tehinf
Profile Joined September 2008
United States192 Posts
July 17 2009 01:32 GMT
#10
i'd use C#
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b3h47pte
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1317 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-17 02:56:53
July 17 2009 02:55 GMT
#11
On July 17 2009 10:19 Murlox wrote:
Would this work :

dir /s/b [file1.txt]
mkdir [F:/My Papers]
cp [ ? ] [file1.txt]

I am confused about what to put instead of the "?"


he's talking about a batch file.
you put that into Notepad save it as "batch.bat" and run it and it'll do the stuff.

http://www.computerhope.com/batch.htm
That might help you a bit.

If you still want to actually program something, if you're using .NET you can probably use teh Directory class: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.io.directory.aspx
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
July 17 2009 04:24 GMT
#12
On July 17 2009 10:19 Murlox wrote:
Would this work :

dir /s/b [file1.txt]
mkdir [F:/My Papers]
cp [ ? ] [file1.txt]

I am confused about what to put instead of the "?"


the format is like this:

cp sourcepath destinationpath

sourcepath/destinationpath refer to the location of the file and the name of the file appended to the end. so if you want to copy a file in C:\ called "file1" to F:\ and change the file name to "file2" you would do

cp C:\file1 F:\file2
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
July 17 2009 10:53 GMT
#13
The dir /s/b [file] command is not working : file cannot be found.

Also, how do I input the path resulted of this search into the cp command ?

cp [variable path] [F:\New Dir\]
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MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
July 17 2009 14:36 GMT
#14
search file <- Which search critera?
create new folder <- What name?
copy said file into new folder.
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Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-17 18:15:17
July 17 2009 18:12 GMT
#15
I'm not sure i get your post, MasterOfChaos.

I want the .bat to search all drives for "file1.txt", whatever computer i use it on.
Once it is located, i want the .bat to copy this file to a new folder, say NewFolder (Name is not important).

That's all.

Main problem is, when I test it, the "dir /s/b [file1.txt]" command fails at finding a file called "file1.txt" placed on my desktop ;

Second problem is that I don't understand how to properly use the "cp" command, since I don't know how to write the first variable, ie. [located path of file1.txt after the search].

Btw, thank you guys for your help so far!
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yh8c4
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
108 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-17 19:44:36
July 17 2009 19:43 GMT
#16
this code in a .bat file basically does what you want

@ECHO OFF
2>NUL md %2
FOR /F %%f IN ( '"dir \ /s /o /b %1"' ) DO copy /y %%f %2 > NUL

you have to run the batch file with two parameters, 1 is the filename/search pattern which identifies the file you want, 2 is the path of the directory you want created. so, if you put that code in x.bat, you'd have to run: x asdf*.qwr c:\y, and if there is a file matching that pattern it will be put in c:\y (which will be created in every case).

to break the code down a little bit
- %1 and %2 refer to the first and second argument you typed when you ran the batch file
- @ECHO OFF : turns off output (delete to see how %1 and %2 get substituted)
- 2>NUL : suppress error message of md (which you will get if the directory already exists)
- md : dos command for creating a directory
- the FOR loop: for each item found in the paranthesis after IN the operation after DO is executed
- dir \ /s /o /b %1 : this creates a list of all files matching the pattern you gave as first paramter. the \ after dir specifies that the search begins at the root directory. so, if you know that your file is somewhere beneath c:\asd\fgh\ use that instead \
- copy /y %%f %2 : copys all files matching the pattern to %2 (second parameter), the /y switch automatically overwrites existing files. the >NUL surpresses the copy output, if you want to have it delete it

as far as i know you cant enumerate the valid drive letters from a batch file, so if you want to check multiple hard drives, so you might want to change the bat file to

@ECHO OFF
2>NUL md %2
C:
FOR /F %%f IN ( '"dir \ /s /o /b %1"' ) DO copy /y %%f %2 > NUL
D:
FOR /F %%f IN ( '"dir \ /s /o /b %1"' ) DO copy /y %%f %2 > NUL
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-17 20:38:30
July 17 2009 20:05 GMT
#17
Precious, precious post you made there mate. I'll try this and report. Thanks a lot

Report, i used that:

@ECHO OFF
2>NUL md %c:\test
FOR /F %%f IN ( '"dir \ /s /o /b %moustique.exe"' ) DO copy /y %%f %c:\test

I removed the >NUL since i don't want the original file to be deleted.

This does make a folder c:\test, and replaces it with no warning on every use. However, this stops there, does not duplicate the file moustique.exe (which is located on my desktop) into the folder c:\test
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yh8c4
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
108 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-17 21:12:59
July 17 2009 20:57 GMT
#18
On July 18 2009 05:05 Murlox wrote:
Report, i used that:

@ECHO OFF
2>NUL md %c:\test
FOR /F %%f IN ( '"dir \ /s /o /b %moustique.exe"' ) DO copy /y %%f %c:\test

I removed the >NUL since i don't want the original file to be deleted.

This does make a folder c:\test, and replaces it with no warning on every use. However, this stops there, does not duplicate the file moustique.exe (which is located on my desktop) into the folder c:\test


try just these two lines to see all output:

md c:\test
FOR /F %%f IN ( '"dir \ /s /o /b moustique.exe"' ) DO copy %%f c:\test

the variable names are %1 and %2, so if you want to replace them with constant values, you have to replace %1 and not just the 1. The >NUL stuff after the copy line actually just surpresses the output, but does not stop the auto overwrite. to remove that, you have to remove the /y switch. now, if a moustique.exe was found somewhere on your HD and copied it to c:\test and another moustique.exe is found somewhere else on your HD, you will be prompted to choose an action (i.e. you have to press y or n or sth)

EDIT:
btw, the copy command does indeed make a copy (it's not like in scifi movies where the original is gone after a copy, to achieve that effect you'd have to use "move" instead of "copy"). so, dont be afraid to use your source file
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-17 21:53:38
July 17 2009 21:51 GMT
#19
It works with this :

@ECHO OFF
md c:\test
copy moustique.exe c:\test

However, the .bat HAS to be in the same directory as the file moustique.exe which is not what I want. Is there a better way to use the COPY command, that is to say not to have to specify the path of the source, only its name?

@yh8c4 : mate, i don't understand your lines, and even after removing the % before 1 and 2 (which i did in the first place), it stills doesnt work to the end : it makes the directory, but doesn't copy the file in it.


Resistance ain't futile
yh8c4
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
108 Posts
July 17 2009 22:12 GMT
#20
seems like i made a mistake with the dir command.. try this

md C:\test
FOR /F %%f IN ( '"dir C:\moustique.exe /s /b"' ) DO copy %%f C:\test
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
July 17 2009 22:20 GMT
#21
I don't get it...

Your code does not work, neither do my old very simple "copy moustique.exe c:\test" anymore... and i rebooted.

Wtf?
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yh8c4
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
108 Posts
July 17 2009 22:30 GMT
#22
i just copy-pasted what i wrote in my last post, created a moustique.exe on my desktop and ran it. i have now a c:\test with moustique.exe in it, so it does work.

it just takes ages to run if you have all your stuff in c:\ (since the copy only starts when dir has finally looked into every folder in C:\ for that file (no way to stop the search after the first found, afaik)).

its a whole lot faster if you know that it's for example somewhere in C:\users (which is probably where your desktop folder is), so try

md C:\test
FOR /F %%f IN ( '"dir C:\Users\moustique.exe /s /b"' ) DO copy %%f C:\test
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-17 22:45:50
July 17 2009 22:43 GMT
#23
It doesnt work for me.

But even a very simple COPY command does not work anymore unless i specify the exact path, although it did work with no path at all minutes ago, so i suspect the .bat files to be somehow inneffective now?

Thank you anyway, i will look why those .bat refuse to work any longer and will then try your code.

Edit :

I mean, even

md c:\test

doesn't work!
Resistance ain't futile
yh8c4
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
108 Posts
July 17 2009 22:50 GMT
#24
sounds like bat file you edit is not the one you run
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-17 22:58:01
July 17 2009 22:53 GMT
#25
Hah, could be although i don't think i am that tired, getting one to work now, testing your code.

Ok, so :

md C:\test
FOR /F %%f IN ( '"dir C:\Users\moustique.exe /s /b"' ) DO copy %%f C:\test


does create c:\test, but does not copy moustique.exe in it for me.

On the other hand,

md c:\test
copy moustique.exe c:\test


does create c:\test and copies moustique.exe in it
Problem here, the .bat has to be in the same repertory as moustique.exe to work
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yh8c4
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
108 Posts
July 17 2009 23:06 GMT
#26
in which folder is your desktop?
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-17 23:12:19
July 17 2009 23:08 GMT
#27
C:\Documents and Settings\Murlox\Bureau

Edit :

even with

md C:\test
FOR /F %%f IN ( '"dir C:\Documents and Settings\Murlox\Bureau\moustique.exe /s /b"' ) DO copy %%f C:\test

It still does not do the trick. Won't copy.


Moreover, this is not really the direction i want to go, since what I really want is not to input any path at all, (.bat should find the file itself)
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yh8c4
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
108 Posts
July 17 2009 23:28 GMT
#28
the problem are the spaces in the foldername, and i don't think you can handle those within the batch file, so if you can't be sure the file you're looking for is in a path which doesnt contain a space, you're out of luck.
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
July 17 2009 23:30 GMT
#29
i've read that the spaces in names can be handled with " " in .bats
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Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
July 17 2009 23:32 GMT
#30
Isn't everyone missing the point? He wants to learn programming simple windows programs. Start out with Visual Basic, hands down the easiest platform to start on for this. You probably don't want to go for win32 with C++ or anything similar without having some serious dedication.
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-17 23:57:52
July 17 2009 23:46 GMT
#31
Hei da,

We are right on the point mate :-)

I think basic dos commands can do my job, well i hope so. If i manage to get this DIR or COPY or XCOPY command to look for my file without feeding them the path of it...

@yh8c4 :

As I understand it,

/b after DIR is for clarification (no summary)

/s after DIR is to display files in specified directory and all subdirectories. I think this does not mean every subdirectories of the drive though, but just the subdirectories of specified directory... Which is not enough in my case ;7

May be DIR is not the proper command?


dir \ moustique.exe /s finds it !
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yh8c4
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
108 Posts
July 17 2009 23:56 GMT
#32
ok. this should be it..

md C:\test
FOR /F "delims=" %%f IN ( '"\moustique.exe /b /s"' ) DO copy "%%f" C:\test

faster version with a small hint to your desktop...

md C:\test
FOR /F "delims=" %%f IN ( '"C:\"Documents and Settings"\moustique.exe /b /s"' ) DO copy "%%f" C:\test

better copy-paste, this has some more "s...
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-18 00:03:09
July 17 2009 23:58 GMT
#33
testing ^^

Neither your versions work...
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yh8c4
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
108 Posts
July 18 2009 00:01 GMT
#34
On July 18 2009 08:46 Murlox wrote:
Hei da,

We are right on the point mate :-)

I think basic dos commands can do my job, well i hope so. If i manage to get this DIR or COPY or XCOPY command to look for my file without feeding them the path of it...

@yh8c4 :

As I understand it,

/b after DIR is for clarification (no summary)

/s after DIR is to display files in specified directory and all subdirectories. I think this does not mean every subdirectories of the drive though, but just the subdirectories of specified directory... Which is not enough in my case ;7

May be DIR is not the proper command?


/b outputs the complete path to the file + filename and no this date, size etc crap, we just need the path + name to feed it to the copy command

/s if the specified directory is \ then /s means checking each and every directory on that drive

the dir command isnt optimal for your problem (since you probably want the search to end once the file has been located), but there's nothing which gets the job done (that is providing the source paramter for the copy command)
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
July 18 2009 00:06 GMT
#35
Btw, how do you use the result provided by the DIR command with the COPY command ?

Because DIR \ moustique.exe /s finds the file ; how can use this result as a source for COPY ?
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yh8c4
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
108 Posts
July 18 2009 00:17 GMT
#36
i created a c:\c\documents and settings\murlox\bureau path, put a moustique.exe there, and ran the bat file. result:

[image loading]


On July 18 2009 09:06 Murlox wrote:
Btw, how do you use the result provided by the DIR command with the COPY command ?

Because DIR \ moustique.exe /s finds the file ; how can use this result as a source for COPY ?


thats what the FOR loop does
the stuff in the parantheses after IN is a set of dir results. you basically say: let %%f be a member of this set, then for each member in that set do copy %%f c:\test. you know what i mean? for each item in the IN ( ... ) set copy is called once, and %%f gets substituted with that item.
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
July 18 2009 00:25 GMT
#37
IN (...) locates the item, this result (or path?) is put in %%f, then COPY uses %%F as its source ?

And FOR loops this whole system. Am i getting it right?
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Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
July 18 2009 00:31 GMT
#38
Am going to check some more and then to sleep.

Thank you very much for you help yh8c4, was a pleasure
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yh8c4
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
108 Posts
July 18 2009 00:46 GMT
#39
i hope this explains what happens:

[image loading]


i put some files in c:\tmp\x (printed with /b /s)
then i print out the content of x.bat (with the type command)

then i run x.bat, and you can see that copy is run 4 times, because the call for dir *.txt /b /s yielded 4 results, which are the contents inside the IN ( ). each time copy is run, it is run with a different source parameter, because each time the %%f gets substituted with a different item from the IN ( ) set.

i'm 100% sure, that
md C:\test
FOR /F "delims=" %%f IN ( '"\moustique.exe /b /s"' ) DO copy "%%f" C:\test

works, just run it and make a screenshot

yh8c4
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
108 Posts
July 18 2009 01:00 GMT
#40
wow, seems like i never even tried my 100% solution... it was missing the dir command!

md C:\test
FOR /F "delims=" %%f IN ( '"dir \moustique.exe /b /s"' ) DO copy "%%f" C:\test
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-18 01:44:30
July 18 2009 01:38 GMT
#41
your 100 % solution works 100 %. Amazing.

I will look at your screenshot more in depth this w-e. Thanks again so much for you time and experience dude!

(its crazy fast too!!!)

Edit : I'm wrong, it is more than fast, it is INSTANT.
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yh8c4
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
108 Posts
July 18 2009 01:55 GMT
#42
then you either have very little stuff on c:\ or a much faster hdd than i have

here's some more detailed info:
http://www.robvanderwoude.com/batchfiles.php
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
July 18 2009 19:17 GMT
#43
looks like I'm too late.

glad you resolved your problem
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
July 18 2009 19:19 GMT
#44
I'd have done something like this:

dir /sb *.* | xargs -n1 cp --target-directory=.\temp2
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