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Mada_Jiang
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Australia236 Posts
July 07 2009 11:59 GMT
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clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
July 07 2009 12:01 GMT
#2
I saw Shutter.

It was pretty scary T_T

By the way, can you show me pictures of the example you included in your post!
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stanley_
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States816 Posts
July 07 2009 12:04 GMT
#3
spooky thread, can you post the pictures? i am intrigueddd
hoorah
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
July 07 2009 12:10 GMT
#4
The first one sounds like it has been done on purpose to draw attention. Have you thought about that possibility?

And the second one (if I got the description right) could be a result of an accidental splash of chemicals when the film was developed (so it was actually "dipped").
eX-Corgh
Profile Joined October 2007
Russian Federation386 Posts
July 07 2009 12:53 GMT
#5
Pics or it didn't happen ^^
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Mada_Jiang
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Australia236 Posts
July 07 2009 12:56 GMT
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Thats_The_Spirit
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Netherlands138 Posts
July 07 2009 13:05 GMT
#7
You:
"I have on a number of occassions seen apparitions and raw deformed faces much like what you would see from a typical asian horror flick. ..... Luckily I do not believe in ghosts and therefore concluded that they were manifestations of my own physical/mental state, they were hallucinations."

A person who is blind since birth:
"I have on a number of occassions "seen" flashes of light at night in my bed much like in a scary dream. ..... Luckily I do not believe in visible light and therefore concluded that they were manifestations of my own physical/mental state, they were hallucinations."

I could think of a lot of possibilities for the phenomena in the pictures ranging from likely (picture editing, causes due to chemical reactions during development (see wikipedia)) to very unlikely causes.

You said you have done enormous amount of research without a good answer. Perhaps because nobody really knows.
All i'm saying is that being open minded is really comforting for your own mind. It causes you to not freak out when you see something you cant explain.

"Ghosts" that people are talking about do not necessarily have to be supernatural or going against christianity or anything. They as easily could be undiscovered phenomena in nature, or even glimpses of undetectable lifeforms for all we know. Just be openminded like the blind person who has to accept that others have this misterious fifth sense they call sight.

And the original Shutter was so cool btw.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
July 07 2009 13:13 GMT
#8
Long time ago = crappy cameras = weird shit.
No I'm never serious.
Mada_Jiang
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Australia236 Posts
July 07 2009 13:15 GMT
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Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
July 07 2009 13:17 GMT
#10
OK, here is a possible explanation of a dark figure:

It was obviously someone, maybe a stranger, maybe a friend of theirs they met there. The fact that its features are indistinguishable is not really that unusual: it was a sunny day, and if he was wearing very dark clothes they would appear much darker on film due to the camera exposure setting.

You can actually try it yourself if you've got a camera: put something dark on a very light background next to something light. If your camera is set to automatic exposure, it will set the exposure (i.e. the time that the shutter stays open) so that on average the scene is properly lit, but the average of this scene is going to be very light. Because the dark object reflects much less light, it will become underexposed and look almost black, except for the light parts (e.g. the eyes) Or, if you manually put the exposure setting so that the dark object is properly exposed, then the rest of the scene will become too white (overexposed). His face could be black because he was very dark-skinned, he was wearing a baseball hat that cast a shadow on his face, he was wearing face paint, or a million of other reasons.

Or, alternatively, the guy who was developing the pictures was a joker and overlaid this figure from another film. It was quite doable even in the 90s.
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
July 07 2009 14:13 GMT
#11
I'm extremely skeptical to things like this. While I might not have better or exact explanations than what others have presented here, I think it's a lot more believable that the photo deviations you desribe are caused by completely mundane sources which any regular guy, with their limited perception, just misses, either due to the cause not having been documented yet, or simply because a solution 'this simple' just hasn't occured to the person viewing the photos yet in the context presented.

Of course, that's also my view regarding religion, but let's not start all that.

Yea, I realise I'm not really contributing much here other than tossing out more annoying questions and ambiguations, but what I'm trying to do here is to ask you to consider some unknown mundane factor rather than jumping to supernatural conclusions.

That beign said, I loved the Fatal Frame game series. <3
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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
July 07 2009 14:14 GMT
#12
i need pics seriously lol

and shutter thai version is waaaaaaaaay better than american version
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MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
July 07 2009 14:14 GMT
#13
underexposure and high contrast.
But need to see the pics to tell you.
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Zholistic
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia278 Posts
July 07 2009 15:11 GMT
#14
When pictures are taken on film (as they were) sometimes the internal mechanism doesn't wind the film forward properly; and you can get "ghost" images of previous photos on top of other ones. This could be an explanation, I've seen some weird photos like this before.

Film itself is prone to have defects sometimes - if the weird images look chemically suspect it could be the film has a faulty spot on it or the paper printed on has a faulty spot on it too. Film itself is susceptible to thermal damage in this way.

The second photo you mentioned (the one in front of the temple) sounds more like ghosting. The other one could be too; dunno.

What you've got to consider when you investigate this phenomenon is how many photos get taken in front of temples/cemeteries/spiritual places which never show up this sort of thing. Thousands - 10's of thousands even. 1 or 2 really weird photos in the middle of tens of thousands means that it's unlikely to be a viewing into some spiritual realm and more likely a fluke of the printing process.

It's like this: I routinely walk under lights in the street that blow out just as I walk underneath them. This is a freaky occurrence. But then I walk under 10's of thousands of lights which don't blow out - but I never notice them. Lights which are on all night every night and have a lifetime of a few months should blow out - if I walk under 1000 lamps in one night I should expect 1 to go out, right?


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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
July 07 2009 16:09 GMT
#15
tl:dr version plz.. (at work)
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
July 07 2009 16:49 GMT
#16
in many asian cultures, the existence of ghosts is treated as a fact. When pics don't come out as they should, its just natural for people over here to blame the spirit world. I've seen 5-6 of these pics ever since I was a kid.. and yes, they really scared the shit out of me back then. Some of the pics that i saw were taken by close friends, or family members.. so there's no way they were purposely faked. I don't really believe in ghosts.. so the only explanation for me is crappy cameras+bad photography skills+ poor lightning = spirit world. I would have described the pics that i saw, but that would be no fun to you people without the actual pictures to prove.
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6181 Posts
July 07 2009 17:11 GMT
#17
give us pictures. for me those things sounds natural. happens in all my pics.
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2749 Posts
July 07 2009 17:34 GMT
#18
randomness + human abillity to detect the shape a human in everything.

The human brain is trained and developed to recognize the shape of a face or a silhouette even if the matter is vague at best. That way we say faces in clouds for instance.

There are many pictures. Trough randomness, weird shapes form on them. Some of those shapes are recognized as a face or silhouette. This is like the thousand-monkeys-type-the-complete-work-of-shakespear: eventually you will see a picture with the shape of a face or silhouette, because you see a lot of pictures in your lifetime.
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-07 17:48:40
July 07 2009 17:45 GMT
#19
in the OP you set up a false dichotomy.
"for advice about ghosts: either ask TL netizens or ask a christian"?

neither of these view points is probably going to get you anywhere.
i suggest you go to a daoist temple and speak with some of the monks there. daoist priests/monks/mages are quite intense and their understanding of the supernatural goes deep.

i am also in tune with the spirit realm but only slightly. i cannot see the energy (qi) but i can feel it with an extra sense. to be in touch with spiritual energy takes both natural aptitude and conscious honing of the sense. it takes practice.

humankind is a mixture of water, carbon, and the memories of lives past and future. some people have stronger connections with their past lives and even future ones (as we know time is not linear, and the future affects the past just as much as the past affects the present).

regarding your photos. light is energy, energy flows in currents, currents can be altered by amplifiers such as the touched (viz, people with the sixth sense) or in areas with high concentrations of qi (e.g. near trees, water, intense sunlight).

also, psychic energy can either work for or against you. if you close your eyes and see heinous, ghastly images it is because you are harboring woe. if you always notice the frightening it is because you are frightened. this sounds like a tautology and it is.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5010 Posts
July 07 2009 19:25 GMT
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