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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-20 22:38:36
May 20 2009 22:34 GMT
#61
Last season I offraced Protoss for 2 days and got C- immediately. With Terran I also probably could have easily gotten D+ in 2 days. If a player is actually B-, his mechanics and general game knowledge should carry enough over to easily defeat any D player caliber player. A player with B- should be able to execute what he needs to do, know what he needs to do and do tasks like macro and making workers (something most D level players completely fail at). iirc when Draco was laddering in SCL he would 99 proxy gate every game and come up with outrageous disadvantages but still win just because he was better overall than the other player (like C/B level I'm guessing). Ya it's his main race but still, just having a better grasp of the game with one race should carry over to an offrace enough to easily beat a D.

In this case, him being Protoss should have given him even more of an advantage as an offrace, since getting to C- is extremely easy with it in my experience, and would probably only take a week to get C.

So basically if he's B-, his offrace should be better than D level... otherwise I highly suspect he isn't B- or cheesed his way up there. I didn't much this season so maybe B- got really easy to get, because I remember last season the skill level dropped dramatically. Maybe it happened again this season.

Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
May 20 2009 22:42 GMT
#62
On May 21 2009 04:07 closed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2009 22:17 Zoler wrote:
On May 20 2009 11:07 closed wrote:
Maybe he was eating or talking on the phone? I often eat while playing, what makes my macro very sloppy. In fact, after all those years, I still have some problems in playing and eating soup at the same time; it's like -50% apm


Ooh.. so doing other things while playing affects your concentration? So that's why the progamers never eats soup while playing


I can challenge you to a BO3 where we both will be eating soup if you want :-)
We just need to decide on the map pool and the soup pool; I propose python and tomato soup


lol that would be awesome ^^
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
MoeMoeKyun
Profile Joined January 2009
United States215 Posts
May 21 2009 00:33 GMT
#63
Isn't it his 2v2 thats B-?
I lol in ur general direction
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
May 21 2009 00:50 GMT
#64
On April 28 2009 03:46 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
I beat Shauni's zerg when I was D+. I think people who play protoss tend to have the weakest offraces, unless they were random players and then switched protoss to main or something.


Lol didn't see this post. WTF man, I've actually played random for 3 years.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
May 21 2009 05:00 GMT
#65
On May 21 2009 09:50 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2009 03:46 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
I beat Shauni's zerg when I was D+. I think people who play protoss tend to have the weakest offraces, unless they were random players and then switched protoss to main or something.


Lol didn't see this post. WTF man, I've actually played random for 3 years.

lolololol
~o~ I have returned
PleaseJustChill
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada21 Posts
May 21 2009 08:26 GMT
#66
105 apm B- player?

Uh... it is possible, but very very very very unlikely.
Imba Siege Tanks!
FaZ-
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States187 Posts
May 22 2009 08:58 GMT
#67
On April 27 2009 19:22 Diomedes wrote:
How can a B- zerg be only D level in PvT? I mean there are D terrans that are D+ in PvT.


Vouch. Not even kidding, by the way.

I beat a D+ Terran in a straight game with Protoss even after supply blocking myself 4 or 5 times, including my first Reaver, and going in with zero build order whatsoever beyond 10/15 gate.

I've never beaten a D+ player of any race EVER other than that, after 100+ games with Terran and a whopping 3 with Protoss.
iG.Voltron
Profile Joined May 2009
26 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-31 12:19:55
May 31 2009 11:37 GMT
#68
thought id sign up/post in here to clear this thread up.

Keen for the soup games btw ! its pretty much winter here in new zealand, temp today where i was 0 - 5 deg celc / 32F - 41F

my known akas are

cakeman[stfu]
DF)Lefty(
uT)ReaperZ
iG.Voltron


~100 apm who knows, what country are you from ? as others have said im from new zealand, so chances are it was 2-4am my time when i played you, which is a bit of a disadvantage, but not enough to drop it that low.

Check iccup stats,
Zerg 51-15
Protoss 4-13

guess that shows the offrace side of it.

this game also appears to be SC, not BW

also i havent been working for the past 2 months, contract work is great get a few months off every year to party/indulge in substances etc.

im not really sure why you made a thread over 1 game to be honest.

cakeman[stfu] = iG.Voltron = low$ user, where did you get fastest user from ???? lol.

Kwaark, our last showmatch you were bad mannered, always make threads in starcraft.co.nz calling me noob etc etc which is the reason i a) stopped talking to you, b) stopped bothering to reply to you, feel free to chat to pingu about this if it 'really gets to you' as i still talk to him often, as hes far from your level of arrogance. result 3-2 ???? hardly bragworthy for you.

for example ..


February 06, 2009, 11:34:42 AM Kwaark/TossPot wrote:
Oi. Cakeman
Long story short, you're bad at Starcraft. Always have been, always will be. I'm just better. Not just at Starcraft but better as a person. And I want to prove it by humilitating you in a showmatch. Any time. Any map. Any server. It's on.

KwarK > Cakeman
KwarK > all

You're always talking shit and acting like you're good at bw. I've had enough of you. I think we'll all agree Cakeman needs to be put in his place. You, Cakeman, are personally going to suffer.

Any questions?
Also your mother sucks.
She's pretty good at it too..


i have nothing against a bit of friendly 'bad mouthing' but when you start getting immature, ill just choose to ignore you and get on with my life.

also if you remember, which i told you before the showmatch, i hadnt slept in close to days.

anyway i wasnt here to make excuses, to the OP with the combination of offrace, timezone differences, being sc and not bw, no lan latency and not working i apologise for my less than adequate performance.

i picked up WGT for New Zealand, as seen in this post
May 24, 2008, 10:08:34 PM Cakeman wrote:
Hello all, my name is Daryl and I am from Wellington, New Zealand. I go by the AKAs of Cakeman[stfu], ntn-reaper2k-, Reaper_2000, iamyou, and Voltron. Although I am not a known gamer, I am really interested in picking up where fonger left off in creating our National Team. Judging by this forum that fonger kindly introduced me to, I can tell that some of you are really close. I am hoping to earn that same trust/respect/comradory. My organizing isn't the best but I will do my best. My skill level still needs work but is exceptional, I am a Zerg/Protoss user, B- right now and hoping to reach at least B+ by the end of the season. After giving much thought, I recently decided to join DF)( and have been gaming as DF)Lefty(.

Here is a mini-reppack of some of my games: http://download.yousendit.com/D984B20C65C798BC


basicially just wanted to clear my name, provide a rep pack (almost a year old now, too tired to compile a new one), say thanks to the OP for the game, and thank the TL community as i often visit here but havent signed up until now

bnet is for fun, iccup is for gametime peace to all!

*edit PS Averatec-Intel Classic Season 3 has had some brilliant games so far!
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
July 05 2009 00:55 GMT
#69
Noo Zeeland? that place still exists?
hi
Silver
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
New Zealand379 Posts
July 05 2009 02:42 GMT
#70
ROFL good work taking kwark's post out of context cake
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 05 2009 02:57 GMT
#71
On May 21 2009 17:26 PleaseJustChill wrote:
105 apm B- player?

Uh... it is possible, but very very very very unlikely.


did you read the thread at all, it's his offrace
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
fonger
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United Kingdom1218 Posts
July 05 2009 09:21 GMT
#72
On July 05 2009 11:57 Divinek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 17:26 PleaseJustChill wrote:
105 apm B- player?

Uh... it is possible, but very very very very unlikely.


did you read the thread at all, it's his offrace

I know a 100apm B+ player

discuss
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28704 Posts
July 05 2009 10:38 GMT
#73
any smart good player can play all races at a high level. if you are only good at the first 10 minutes because thats how far your build order is memorized, then you are going to be horrible with the other races.
Moderator
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
July 05 2009 12:06 GMT
#74
Unlikely, but very plausible. B- isn't legendary or extremely good, even with their main race, it's simply very solid with few common mistakes IMO. Depends on how much he plays his off-race.
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 05 2009 15:25 GMT
#75
On May 31 2009 20:37 iG.Voltron wrote:

cakeman[stfu] = iG.Voltron = low$ user, where did you get fastest user from ???? lol.


He said the player he challenged before playing you was a fastest user, not you.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-06 00:25:42
July 06 2009 00:24 GMT
#76
the top sc player in new zealand is thundergod anyways.
hi
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
July 06 2009 02:37 GMT
#77
Cakeman you do realise that the post Kwark made showed your own username that you logged in on right? He wasn't directing it at anyone, it was just a joke. You see your own username in the post:

Oi. skyglow1
Long story short, you're bad at Starcraft. Always have been, always will be. I'm just better. Not just at Starcraft but better as a person. And I want to prove it by humilitating you in a showmatch. Any time. Any map. Any server. It's on.

KwarK > skyglow1
KwarK > all

You're always talking shit and acting like you're good at bw. I've had enough of you. I think we'll all agree skyglow1 needs to be put in his place. You, skyglow1, are personally going to suffer.

Any questions?
Also your mother sucks.
She's pretty good at it too.
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