• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:57
CET 23:57
KST 07:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview11Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)39
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) HomeStory Cup 28 KSL Week 85 OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open!
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? BW General Discussion [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Let's Get Creative–Video Gam…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2529 users

iCCup B-? - Page 2

Blogs > LosingID8
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-27 11:11:11
April 27 2009 11:03 GMT
#21
hehe ig.voltron is a new zealand player (aka cakeman i think?). Not sure if hes B- skill level still but C+ would be believable. Anyway i thought his main race was p, but i don't know him to well. i do know hes one of the top new zealander playes though, but not sure if he is very active anymore.

edit: i think he plays p for all matchups except zvp where he plays z. maybe he was just screwing around that game though.

Also, what kwark said.
hi
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
April 27 2009 11:06 GMT
#22
5/5
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
April 27 2009 11:23 GMT
#23
Im B- as well with Z and my T surely wont beat an even stats D/D+ player... Some people just never play the other races, you cant say shit about someones skill level on an offrace.... I cant even play with hotkeys with T/P.....
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-27 11:30:08
April 27 2009 11:28 GMT
#24
It is very common nowadays everyone states he would be B-. Actually like 1% of those reached B- but most stop at C-/C with good stats knowing they would get trashed on C+/B- and most likely fall back to C-/C with really bad stats (I'm talking about <40% ratio). I see so many ppl claiming to be B- it's not even funny. B- seems to be the "magical" rank where everyone sees himself "because if I would play on I'd reach B- easily". Yeah, like one game with 300 games and dropping back instantly.

Seriously, anyone can reach C-/C with decent stats when playing only foreigners, dodging weak matchups, playing all-in only and so on. Just look at matchlists, you can recognize such people at their gametime. If all won games are <12-15 min you know what's up.
cyronc
Profile Joined March 2008
218 Posts
April 27 2009 11:30 GMT
#25
if this ig.voltron is the same player as voltron on europe(that player played me in various 2on2s there) i guess its just that he really enjoys playing for fun/not for stats a lot which might explain why you thought his rank to be 'too high'.
fun players often dont relie on cookie cutter builds but on spontaneous strategic alterations etc. to throw you off., which is <FUNNY> if it works out

so i dont reallly wonder (if its the same player)
iH82G8!
BaltA
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Norway849 Posts
April 27 2009 12:09 GMT
#26
If he is Z player.... Yes, Because he dont know all the tactiks for T, not the macro, not the timing etc etc etc

I was D- Terran player before I started massgaming them
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-27 12:23:36
April 27 2009 12:23 GMT
#27
On April 27 2009 21:09 BaltA wrote:
If he is Z player.... Yes, Because he dont know all the tactiks for T, not the macro, not the timing etc etc etc

I was D- Terran player before I started massgaming them


lol I'm terran and I'm C- at least with both Protoss and Zerg and I've practically never played them.

I think he just gave you a fake account.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43539 Posts
April 27 2009 12:38 GMT
#28
On April 27 2009 21:23 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2009 21:09 BaltA wrote:
If he is Z player.... Yes, Because he dont know all the tactiks for T, not the macro, not the timing etc etc etc

I was D- Terran player before I started massgaming them


lol I'm terran and I'm C- at least with both Protoss and Zerg and I've practically never played them.

I think he just gave you a fake account.

ig.voltron is cakeman.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
April 27 2009 12:52 GMT
#29
its hard to believe but some people dont play for fun and just practice 1 race/1v1 all day so its definitely possible. also ICCUP ranks are BS. C+ rank ive faced either amazing koreans that just crush me or cheesing retarded noobs that if it fails they are terrible. so doesnt say much about skill
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5212 Posts
April 27 2009 13:01 GMT
#30
I've played countless of games with this guy on west nillla low..(2v2 n 1v1)
Eventhough that's about 2-4years ago... I did play a few games with him roughly 4months ago.
Back then he didn't seem he had improved one bit.
If he really is cakeman[stfu]:
He used to play(/plays) random nilla low/fmp.
And from what I know I wouldn't rank him any higher than a D+.
(possibly he improved a lot during the last 4months?)
FBH #1!
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
April 27 2009 14:03 GMT
#31
It's unlikely, but possible. I had B- last season, and my Zerg is pretty good, around C level, but my Terran is awful, like D+. It's not like B- players have really good off-races as well. I know many C+'s whose off-race couldn't get higher than a mid-level D+.

I just watched the rep. It looks like he has C- mechanics & D level strategic sense. So D+ seems like a fair estimate.
sprawlers
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway439 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-27 14:34:29
April 27 2009 14:33 GMT
#32
I'm not a real B-, but I reached it last season then sat on my rank for the last day. Assuming he is that kind of b- it seems very possible. I know I probably have a losing record with both of my offraces against D/D+ players in op irc.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
April 27 2009 14:53 GMT
#33
maybe he wasnt playing his main race.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
April 27 2009 14:55 GMT
#34
it was his off race;;
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
April 27 2009 14:56 GMT
#35
I play alot of off race games on west and east to warmup for iccup and just do old school fun builds.

I definately have lost tvp vs D level gamers and pvz to some weird ling heavy builds or fast hydra.

AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
April 27 2009 14:58 GMT
#36
On April 27 2009 21:23 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2009 21:09 BaltA wrote:
If he is Z player.... Yes, Because he dont know all the tactiks for T, not the macro, not the timing etc etc etc

I was D- Terran player before I started massgaming them


lol I'm terran and I'm C- at least with both Protoss and Zerg and I've practically never played them.

I think he just gave you a fake account.


Remember that I read this website....

Are you still lying about being C+ on this website?

If so. stop dude.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
April 27 2009 14:58 GMT
#37
Just look at the match list and map statistics, all he ever does is 4-5 pool on Python, gj.
Olorin.SVK
Profile Joined December 2008
Slovakia136 Posts
April 27 2009 15:00 GMT
#38
or maybe there is a difference between 2x2 zerg play and 1x1 toss play O.o
but than again, i didnt see the replay and if he was 100 apm as someone said here, he probably lied about that B- (2v2) beeing his account
ZeeTemplar
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States557 Posts
April 27 2009 15:03 GMT
#39
he's b- in 2v2 D; its possible he is c-/c. Maybe my logic is wrong but if you have a decent partner and you two play alot together is pretty guaranteed that you will have a higher chance then winning people who just randomly 2v2.
Jangbi storms!!!
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
April 27 2009 15:21 GMT
#40
You'd have to get super lucky to beat a B- if you are incapable of reaching D+, and by that I mean he has to screw up.
You have to rely on the B- playing sub par rather than you playing somehow amazing that one game.
The average B- player would rape the D rank player any map, any matchup, any time, any day.
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
12:00
Day 3
Clem vs ShoWTimELIVE!
TaKeTV5284
ComeBackTV 1973
IndyStarCraft 469
TaKeSeN 337
CosmosSc2 141
EnkiAlexander 87
3DClanTV 80
Rex77
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 469
CosmosSc2 141
ProTech124
Rex 77
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 1684
EffOrt 268
Mini 226
Shuttle 194
Dewaltoss 101
ggaemo 66
Artosis 32
NaDa 13
Dota 2
syndereN163
canceldota31
febbydoto23
League of Legends
JimRising 436
Counter-Strike
byalli931
taco 63
minikerr19
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor337
Other Games
tarik_tv18898
gofns13186
FrodaN7510
Grubby3514
Liquid`RaSZi2474
B2W.Neo801
Mlord597
Liquid`Hasu215
KnowMe196
Livibee64
ArmadaUGS64
ToD56
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1426
gamesdonequick1406
BasetradeTV60
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 45
• Response 2
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 29
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21653
• WagamamaTV490
League of Legends
• Doublelift4366
• imaqtpie2992
• TFBlade1252
Other Games
• Shiphtur236
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h 3m
Replay Cast
1d 1h
Wardi Open
1d 13h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-31
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.