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stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-27 11:11:11
April 27 2009 11:03 GMT
#21
hehe ig.voltron is a new zealand player (aka cakeman i think?). Not sure if hes B- skill level still but C+ would be believable. Anyway i thought his main race was p, but i don't know him to well. i do know hes one of the top new zealander playes though, but not sure if he is very active anymore.

edit: i think he plays p for all matchups except zvp where he plays z. maybe he was just screwing around that game though.

Also, what kwark said.
hi
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
April 27 2009 11:06 GMT
#22
5/5
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
April 27 2009 11:23 GMT
#23
Im B- as well with Z and my T surely wont beat an even stats D/D+ player... Some people just never play the other races, you cant say shit about someones skill level on an offrace.... I cant even play with hotkeys with T/P.....
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-27 11:30:08
April 27 2009 11:28 GMT
#24
It is very common nowadays everyone states he would be B-. Actually like 1% of those reached B- but most stop at C-/C with good stats knowing they would get trashed on C+/B- and most likely fall back to C-/C with really bad stats (I'm talking about <40% ratio). I see so many ppl claiming to be B- it's not even funny. B- seems to be the "magical" rank where everyone sees himself "because if I would play on I'd reach B- easily". Yeah, like one game with 300 games and dropping back instantly.

Seriously, anyone can reach C-/C with decent stats when playing only foreigners, dodging weak matchups, playing all-in only and so on. Just look at matchlists, you can recognize such people at their gametime. If all won games are <12-15 min you know what's up.
cyronc
Profile Joined March 2008
218 Posts
April 27 2009 11:30 GMT
#25
if this ig.voltron is the same player as voltron on europe(that player played me in various 2on2s there) i guess its just that he really enjoys playing for fun/not for stats a lot which might explain why you thought his rank to be 'too high'.
fun players often dont relie on cookie cutter builds but on spontaneous strategic alterations etc. to throw you off., which is <FUNNY> if it works out

so i dont reallly wonder (if its the same player)
iH82G8!
BaltA
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Norway849 Posts
April 27 2009 12:09 GMT
#26
If he is Z player.... Yes, Because he dont know all the tactiks for T, not the macro, not the timing etc etc etc

I was D- Terran player before I started massgaming them
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-27 12:23:36
April 27 2009 12:23 GMT
#27
On April 27 2009 21:09 BaltA wrote:
If he is Z player.... Yes, Because he dont know all the tactiks for T, not the macro, not the timing etc etc etc

I was D- Terran player before I started massgaming them


lol I'm terran and I'm C- at least with both Protoss and Zerg and I've practically never played them.

I think he just gave you a fake account.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42784 Posts
April 27 2009 12:38 GMT
#28
On April 27 2009 21:23 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2009 21:09 BaltA wrote:
If he is Z player.... Yes, Because he dont know all the tactiks for T, not the macro, not the timing etc etc etc

I was D- Terran player before I started massgaming them


lol I'm terran and I'm C- at least with both Protoss and Zerg and I've practically never played them.

I think he just gave you a fake account.

ig.voltron is cakeman.
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inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
April 27 2009 12:52 GMT
#29
its hard to believe but some people dont play for fun and just practice 1 race/1v1 all day so its definitely possible. also ICCUP ranks are BS. C+ rank ive faced either amazing koreans that just crush me or cheesing retarded noobs that if it fails they are terrible. so doesnt say much about skill
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5028 Posts
April 27 2009 13:01 GMT
#30
I've played countless of games with this guy on west nillla low..(2v2 n 1v1)
Eventhough that's about 2-4years ago... I did play a few games with him roughly 4months ago.
Back then he didn't seem he had improved one bit.
If he really is cakeman[stfu]:
He used to play(/plays) random nilla low/fmp.
And from what I know I wouldn't rank him any higher than a D+.
(possibly he improved a lot during the last 4months?)
FBH #1!
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
April 27 2009 14:03 GMT
#31
It's unlikely, but possible. I had B- last season, and my Zerg is pretty good, around C level, but my Terran is awful, like D+. It's not like B- players have really good off-races as well. I know many C+'s whose off-race couldn't get higher than a mid-level D+.

I just watched the rep. It looks like he has C- mechanics & D level strategic sense. So D+ seems like a fair estimate.
sprawlers
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway439 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-27 14:34:29
April 27 2009 14:33 GMT
#32
I'm not a real B-, but I reached it last season then sat on my rank for the last day. Assuming he is that kind of b- it seems very possible. I know I probably have a losing record with both of my offraces against D/D+ players in op irc.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
April 27 2009 14:53 GMT
#33
maybe he wasnt playing his main race.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
April 27 2009 14:55 GMT
#34
it was his off race;;
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
April 27 2009 14:56 GMT
#35
I play alot of off race games on west and east to warmup for iccup and just do old school fun builds.

I definately have lost tvp vs D level gamers and pvz to some weird ling heavy builds or fast hydra.

AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
April 27 2009 14:58 GMT
#36
On April 27 2009 21:23 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2009 21:09 BaltA wrote:
If he is Z player.... Yes, Because he dont know all the tactiks for T, not the macro, not the timing etc etc etc

I was D- Terran player before I started massgaming them


lol I'm terran and I'm C- at least with both Protoss and Zerg and I've practically never played them.

I think he just gave you a fake account.


Remember that I read this website....

Are you still lying about being C+ on this website?

If so. stop dude.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
April 27 2009 14:58 GMT
#37
Just look at the match list and map statistics, all he ever does is 4-5 pool on Python, gj.
Olorin.SVK
Profile Joined December 2008
Slovakia136 Posts
April 27 2009 15:00 GMT
#38
or maybe there is a difference between 2x2 zerg play and 1x1 toss play O.o
but than again, i didnt see the replay and if he was 100 apm as someone said here, he probably lied about that B- (2v2) beeing his account
ZeeTemplar
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States557 Posts
April 27 2009 15:03 GMT
#39
he's b- in 2v2 D; its possible he is c-/c. Maybe my logic is wrong but if you have a decent partner and you two play alot together is pretty guaranteed that you will have a higher chance then winning people who just randomly 2v2.
Jangbi storms!!!
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
April 27 2009 15:21 GMT
#40
You'd have to get super lucky to beat a B- if you are incapable of reaching D+, and by that I mean he has to screw up.
You have to rely on the B- playing sub par rather than you playing somehow amazing that one game.
The average B- player would rape the D rank player any map, any matchup, any time, any day.
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