I just ran across a news bit at SCForAll about a Fomos video of progamers in fitness class. Since the vid was hosted at Daum, it was pretty much unwatchable for me (too much buffering). I downloaded it and re-hosted it at YouTube.
Most of it's pretty boring, but IdrA makes an appearance and the look on his face, together with the music and the ridiculous exercise he is doing, nearly made me fall off my chair laughing. Here's the clip (7:35 in):
i wanted to die 5 hours of motivational talks in korean + 1 hour of that + a mediocre lunch
and the only thing in english was a little clip about that guy with no limbs who thanked god for putting him into that situation so he could become a stronger person . . .
On April 05 2009 14:03 IdrA wrote: and the only thing in english was a little clip about that guy with no limbs who thanked god for putting him into that situation so he could become a stronger person . . .
Very nice exercising there haha It looks like savior is quite the chatterbox. Notice he turns around in his seat during the exercises to talk to someone when Idra is on the screen.
I love how all these progamers are aged 13 to 25~ and they are treating them like they are geriatric patients or are in rehab after being in a car wreck lol. Don't most progamers play sports and workout already? idra can you shed some light on this?
I feel as if I've just complied with a systematic attempt to mock eSports/some of my favorite progamers. ;; It looked to me as if sAviOr was in a state of partial disbelief, i.e. "Is this something they've imported from the West?" and "Why am I here?" =<
But Flash looked like he was enjoying it a bit, so hrm.
Is that bisu with the mask thingy on beside him? Who is that...? Ganzi's shirt still kind of makes him look like a chick though, especially with that necklace.
On April 05 2009 15:08 Grobyc wrote: Is that bisu with the mask thingy on beside him? Who is that...? Ganzi's shirt still kind of makes him look like a chick though, especially with that necklace.
GGplay is in the mask I believe, Bisu is in the background in a HUGE blue jacket... he sticks out lol
On April 05 2009 15:08 Grobyc wrote: Is that bisu with the mask thingy on beside him? Who is that...? Ganzi's shirt still kind of makes him look like a chick though, especially with that necklace.
GGplay is in the mask I believe, Bisu is in the background in a HUGE blue jacket... he sticks out lol
Ahhh yes I see him now haha. He does stick out o.o;;
On April 05 2009 15:03 Realpenguin wrote: Well, at least Ganzi's clothing doesn't make him look like a woman in the actual picture:
Hehe, Piano is sleeping in the background.
when i first saw ganzi and the guy with mask, i thought he was pretending to be bisu, wearing a feminine clothing to insult bisu's gayness and the guy next to him was playing along by wearing a doctor mask....(Doctor.K). and everyone knows doctor.k and bisu have a weird relationship.
On April 05 2009 14:48 anTi_ wrote: I love how all these progamers are aged 13 to 25~ and they are treating them like they are geriatric patients or are in rehab after being in a car wreck lol. Don't most progamers play sports and workout already? idra can you shed some light on this?
In our school we had a class like this too. It was about how to exercise/stretch after sitting a long time at the computer. Today everyone sits so much infront of the computer so information is needed.
I know a lot of Koreans who learned to speak english quite well within a year of moving to the US. Not completely fluently, but they were able to talk in english well enough so that they could hold a conversation.
A year and being surrounded in a korean-speaking environment should have been more than enough to learn the Korean language to a point where he can discuss things w/ his team mates, at least on a basic level.
On April 05 2009 14:03 IdrA wrote: i wanted to die 5 hours of motivational talks in korean + 1 hour of that + a mediocre lunch
and the only thing in english was a little clip about that guy with no limbs who thanked god for putting him into that situation so he could become a stronger person . . .
Although I do enjoy making fun of you nonstop, no one deserves to go through what you went through.
I know a lot of Koreans who learned to speak english quite well within a year of moving to the US. Not completely fluently, but they were able to talk in english well enough so that they could hold a conversation.
A year and being surrounded in a korean-speaking environment should have been more than enough to learn the Korean language to a point where he can discuss things w/ his team mates, at least on a basic level.
English is easier to learn, and they likely had more prior training than Idra did. Not only that, but they also had more time to go out and get involved with the world, rather than practicing 8+ hours a day. Whatever your friends did really has no comparison to Idra's experience.
I know a lot of Koreans who learned to speak english quite well within a year of moving to the US. Not completely fluently, but they were able to talk in english well enough so that they could hold a conversation.
A year and being surrounded in a korean-speaking environment should have been more than enough to learn the Korean language to a point where he can discuss things w/ his team mates, at least on a basic level.
English is easier to learn, and they likely had more prior training than Idra did. Not only that, but they also had more time to go out and get involved with the world, rather than practicing 8+ hours a day. Whatever your friends did really has no comparison to Idra's experience.
I would argue that Korean is easier to learn than English. English is one of the hardest languages for a foreigner to learn. I don't know how hard Korean is to a foreigner, but I would say it isn't as hard as English. Idra should be able to ask basic things like "what did I do wrong" and "How do you do this" or maybe even "what is this player known for" and "I would like some rice and meat" at the very least of things, and understand enough Korean to be able to have a nearly complete idea of what exactly they are saying. I'm not saying that he should be able to be able to translate complete korean interviews or be able to watch a show and understand everything that is said, I'm saying he should be able to at least converse with his team mates at the basic level.
Korean is a Catagory III language according to the US Foreign Service and US State Department. I have no idea what that implies about how hard it is for a Korean speaker to pick up English (somehow I doubt learning difficulty is Symmetric) but it means that Korean is as hard a language as you are going to find for Idra to just pick up.
I actually am taking a Korean course at my school right now, for me it seems pretty easy, compared to English and Chinese, which are both my native languages, especially on the written part.
I know a lot of Koreans who learned to speak english quite well within a year of moving to the US. Not completely fluently, but they were able to talk in english well enough so that they could hold a conversation.
A year and being surrounded in a korean-speaking environment should have been more than enough to learn the Korean language to a point where he can discuss things w/ his team mates, at least on a basic level.
English is easier to learn, and they likely had more prior training than Idra did. Not only that, but they also had more time to go out and get involved with the world, rather than practicing 8+ hours a day. Whatever your friends did really has no comparison to Idra's experience.
English is one of the hardest languages for a foreigner to learn.
lol bullshit statement? English is easy. Not only because of its structure but also because of the reason that pretty much everything can be found in english. If English is the hardest language to learn 'for a foreigner', then what the hell are you gonna call Chinese, Finnish, Polish, etc?
Unreal expectations on language again. It doesn't matter how easy korean is, if you don't have any time to spend learning it. Comparing Idra's situation to probably exchange/graduate students in the U.S. is a joke in so many ways.
I know a lot of Koreans who learned to speak english quite well within a year of moving to the US. Not completely fluently, but they were able to talk in english well enough so that they could hold a conversation.
A year and being surrounded in a korean-speaking environment should have been more than enough to learn the Korean language to a point where he can discuss things w/ his team mates, at least on a basic level.
English is easier to learn, and they likely had more prior training than Idra did. Not only that, but they also had more time to go out and get involved with the world, rather than practicing 8+ hours a day. Whatever your friends did really has no comparison to Idra's experience.
I would argue that Korean is easier to learn than English. English is one of the hardest languages for a foreigner to learn. I don't know how hard Korean is to a foreigner, but I would say it isn't as hard as English. Idra should be able to ask basic things like "what did I do wrong" and "How do you do this" or maybe even "what is this player known for" and "I would like some rice and meat" at the very least of things, and understand enough Korean to be able to have a nearly complete idea of what exactly they are saying. I'm not saying that he should be able to be able to translate complete korean interviews or be able to watch a show and understand everything that is said, I'm saying he should be able to at least converse with his team mates at the basic level.
disagreed, english is probably the easiest language to learn
I know a lot of Koreans who learned to speak english quite well within a year of moving to the US. Not completely fluently, but they were able to talk in english well enough so that they could hold a conversation.
A year and being surrounded in a korean-speaking environment should have been more than enough to learn the Korean language to a point where he can discuss things w/ his team mates, at least on a basic level.
English is easier to learn, and they likely had more prior training than Idra did. Not only that, but they also had more time to go out and get involved with the world, rather than practicing 8+ hours a day. Whatever your friends did really has no comparison to Idra's experience.
English is one of the hardest languages for a foreigner to learn.
lol bullshit statement? English is easy. Not only because of its structure but also because of the reason that pretty much everything can be found in english. If English is the hardest language to learn 'for a foreigner', then what the hell are you gonna call Chinese, Finnish, Polish, etc?
lol if only people saying such stupid crap about english being the hardest tried polish/finnish for once~~
I know a lot of Koreans who learned to speak english quite well within a year of moving to the US. Not completely fluently, but they were able to talk in english well enough so that they could hold a conversation.
A year and being surrounded in a korean-speaking environment should have been more than enough to learn the Korean language to a point where he can discuss things w/ his team mates, at least on a basic level.
English is easier to learn, and they likely had more prior training than Idra did. Not only that, but they also had more time to go out and get involved with the world, rather than practicing 8+ hours a day. Whatever your friends did really has no comparison to Idra's experience.
English is one of the hardest languages for a foreigner to learn.
lol bullshit statement? English is easy. Not only because of its structure but also because of the reason that pretty much everything can be found in english. If English is the hardest language to learn 'for a foreigner', then what the hell are you gonna call Chinese, Finnish, Polish, etc?
Apparently Turkish is ridiculous because there's no set sentence pattern, like subject, verb, object and you can put words together however you want, making it difficult for foreigners to learn. I hear that speaking Chinese is easy, it's just learning all the characters that make it a bit of a hassle.
I know a lot of Koreans who learned to speak english quite well within a year of moving to the US. Not completely fluently, but they were able to talk in english well enough so that they could hold a conversation.
A year and being surrounded in a korean-speaking environment should have been more than enough to learn the Korean language to a point where he can discuss things w/ his team mates, at least on a basic level.
English is easier to learn, and they likely had more prior training than Idra did. Not only that, but they also had more time to go out and get involved with the world, rather than practicing 8+ hours a day. Whatever your friends did really has no comparison to Idra's experience.
English is one of the hardest languages for a foreigner to learn.
lol bullshit statement? English is easy. Not only because of its structure but also because of the reason that pretty much everything can be found in english. If English is the hardest language to learn 'for a foreigner', then what the hell are you gonna call Chinese, Finnish, Polish, etc?
Apparently Turkish is ridiculous because there's no set sentence pattern, like subject, verb, object and you can put words together however you want, making it difficult for foreigners to learn. I hear that speaking Chinese is easy, it's just learning all the characters that make it a bit of a hassle.
I know a lot of Koreans who learned to speak english quite well within a year of moving to the US. Not completely fluently, but they were able to talk in english well enough so that they could hold a conversation.
A year and being surrounded in a korean-speaking environment should have been more than enough to learn the Korean language to a point where he can discuss things w/ his team mates, at least on a basic level.
English is easier to learn, and they likely had more prior training than Idra did. Not only that, but they also had more time to go out and get involved with the world, rather than practicing 8+ hours a day. Whatever your friends did really has no comparison to Idra's experience.
English is one of the hardest languages for a foreigner to learn.
lol bullshit statement? English is easy. Not only because of its structure but also because of the reason that pretty much everything can be found in english. If English is the hardest language to learn 'for a foreigner', then what the hell are you gonna call Chinese, Finnish, Polish, etc?
Haha, I learned to speak English pretty easily. Now, I'd love to hear a native English-speaker pronounce my name correctly. It's NEVER happened to this day. Try it, "iiro". Yeah, it's a Finnish name.
English is probably one of the more difficult languages to master (most words of any language, tons of grammatical "exceptions", verb conjugation does not follow set rules), but certainly to just learn enough to communicate and get by, it's not so bad.
Just think how poorly most native English speakers use the language.
On April 07 2009 15:16 Ingenol wrote: English is probably one of the more difficult languages to master (most words of any language, tons of grammatical "exceptions", verb conjugation does not follow set rules), but certainly to just learn enough to communicate and get by, it's not so bad.
Just think how poorly most native English speakers use the language.
On April 07 2009 15:16 Ingenol wrote: English is probably one of the more difficult languages to master (most words of any language, tons of grammatical "exceptions", verb conjugation does not follow set rules), but certainly to just learn enough to communicate and get by, it's not so bad.
Just think how poorly most native English speakers use the language.
dude you fail at logic lol
He's referring to the fact that a lot of people who have learned English as a second language have better grammar than native speakers.
On April 07 2009 15:16 Ingenol wrote: English is probably one of the more difficult languages to master (most words of any language, tons of grammatical "exceptions", verb conjugation does not follow set rules), but certainly to just learn enough to communicate and get by, it's not so bad.
Just think how poorly most native English speakers use the language.
dude you fail at logic lol
No he is right to an extent. Most young people don't speak English properly, even if they're from England!
For instance I don't know another language that has countable and uncountable nouns. e.g. grass is uncountable trees is countable.
This is one of the most ironic videos I have seen - an assembly hall filled with kids dressed in sports wear, whose job is to play video games, performing aerobic exercises... while sitting down. The amount of self-contradiction is uncanny.
On April 07 2009 15:16 Ingenol wrote: English is probably one of the more difficult languages to master (most words of any language, tons of grammatical "exceptions", verb conjugation does not follow set rules), but certainly to just learn enough to communicate and get by, it's not so bad.
Just think how poorly most native English speakers use the language.
dude you fail at logic lol
No he is right to an extent. Most young people don't speak English properly, even if they're from England!
For instance I don't know another language that has countable and uncountable nouns. e.g. grass is uncountable trees is countable.
I don't know of a language that doesn't have countable and uncountable nouns. I love these English-speakers acting like they know everything. It's one of the most simple languages to learn, seriously. Swedish and Spanish or whatever can be easier, but English is by no means difficult.
On April 07 2009 15:16 Ingenol wrote: English is probably one of the more difficult languages to master (most words of any language, tons of grammatical "exceptions", verb conjugation does not follow set rules), but certainly to just learn enough to communicate and get by, it's not so bad.
Just think how poorly most native English speakers use the language.
dude you fail at logic lol
No he is right to an extent. Most young people don't speak English properly, even if they're from England!
For instance I don't know another language that has countable and uncountable nouns. e.g. grass is uncountable trees is countable.
hes not right, nor is he referring to people whose 2nd language is english as someone said - hes talking about native speakers, and is saying that most of them have grammar problems, therefore english=hard. this logic just fails, you will find people with grammar problems in their native tongue everywhere, it depends on their education, how many books they read and billion other things.
we are talking about learning english from foreigner perspective, and it seems rather easy to get to the level where you can communicate with others.sure later it gets harder, it depends on the conversations subjects and other things, but getting to this communitating level at english is easy compared to other languages.
On April 07 2009 21:28 Lobbo wrote: Try to learn Swedish.
Swedish is actually an extremely easy language to learn. The grammar is really self-explanatory and it just makes sense, as does mostly everything else. The pronunciation is also quite simple. Swedish is definitely easier than English, for example. The only thing difficult about it is the vocabulary, but that's how it is for just about every language.
On April 05 2009 14:03 IdrA wrote: i wanted to die 5 hours of motivational talks in korean + 1 hour of that + a mediocre lunch
and the only thing in english was a little clip about that guy with no limbs who thanked god for putting him into that situation so he could become a stronger person . . .
ok weird motivational vid ....must've been quite disturbing for those young korean men
on topic: languages ... i wish english would still have "thy" and "thine" and such things and yes english and swedish are pretty easy i have to learn russian for my job and man it sucks
OMG HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA omgomgomgo that stare was so freaking funny hahahahahahahahhahahahahah i love savior lololol
On April 05 2009 15:08 Grobyc wrote: Is that bisu with the mask thingy on beside him? Who is that...? Ganzi's shirt still kind of makes him look like a chick though, especially with that necklace.
GGplay is in the mask I believe, Bisu is in the background in a HUGE blue jacket... he sticks out lol
LOLOLOL omg i freaking love bisu and his HUGE blue jacket lolol
That thread is so good that it made me register here :D Anyway, I just hope IdrA wont have to go to that kind of... "motivation" meeting again. Must be at least inconvenient. And Stork rox ^^
Bisu in his gay ass shirt, Idra and his "look", Flash and how into it he was, and how July Zerg was sitting there loling, that was the most epic thing ive ever seen
On April 11 2009 15:24 Space[Fright] wrote: Bisu in his gay ass shirt, Idra and his "look", Flash and how into it he was, and how July Zerg was sitting there loling, that was the most epic thing ive ever seen
Yea I noticed that too! Julyzerg, "Exercise? You got to be joking lol!"
EPT
IdrA makes an appearance and the look on his face, together with the music and the ridiculous exercise he is doing, nearly made me fall off my chair laughing. Here's the clip (7:35 in):
go idra! =)
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