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caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6429 Posts
April 01 2009 06:58 GMT
#21
On April 01 2009 15:40 Llamaz wrote:

With that said, I suggest you don't take advice from ANYONE in this forum, including me. Go to a programming forum. People giving advice to you here probably haven't even tried to learn a programming language.



i beg to differ
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
April 01 2009 06:58 GMT
#22
Java is easiest, but what you get in practicality you lose in performance.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
April 01 2009 07:04 GMT
#23
On April 01 2009 15:40 Llamaz wrote:
Wow...Python >>>>>>>>>>> Java for beginners.
Java > Python if you have more experiance...but C++ > java.
...

With that said, I suggest you don't take advice from ANYONE in this forum, including me. Go to a programming forum. People giving advice to you here probably haven't even tried to learn a programming language.


im sure TL is a good source of non professional programming advice, there are many guys here studing computers/something related and there are at least 5/10 pros at it.
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
April 01 2009 07:33 GMT
#24
On April 01 2009 15:58 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2009 15:40 Llamaz wrote:

With that said, I suggest you don't take advice from ANYONE in this forum, including me. Go to a programming forum. People giving advice to you here probably haven't even tried to learn a programming language.



i beg to differ

While it is true that there are a lot of programmers on this forum it is basically impossible for the OP to tell the good advice apart from the bad advice (of which there is already A LOT in this short thread, jesus if you people have no idea shut up, really).

I am just going to say that it doesn't matter what language you start with. You can can learn the art of programming in any language. Once you are secure with that you can *very* easily pick up another.

That said I would personally recommend Python just because it is extremely fun to program with. If you are the kind of learner who needs to try things out and get results quickly it will suit you.
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PriitM
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Algeria181 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-01 08:31:36
April 01 2009 08:27 GMT
#25
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Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
April 01 2009 08:39 GMT
#26
On April 01 2009 15:40 Llamaz wrote:

With that said, I suggest you don't take advice from ANYONE in this forum, including me. Go to a programming forum. People giving advice to you here probably haven't even tried to learn a programming language.



While I second the notion of visiting a programming forum for this kind of thing (They'll likely have some kind of sticky thread dealing with questions like "what should I learn for my first language?") there are actually quite a few programmers here on TL and it's perfectly fine to ask around here.

There have been some previous threads with similar questions:

Python Programming - If you go the python route.
I want to start programming - The op really doesn't have a clue about where to start and what is what, but there are a few pages of advice there.
Their are four errors in this sentance.
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-01 08:40:55
April 01 2009 08:40 GMT
#27
On April 01 2009 15:20 IzzyCraft wrote:
Java/C++ is a very common first languages to learn. python is fun to know but consider something like PHP FORTRAN etc

Wtf? FORTRAN and PHP are both terrible ideas for starting languages lol. In fact, I can't see you being likely to need FORTRAN in the future at all unless you work in a specific few industries...
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
April 01 2009 08:51 GMT
#28
On April 01 2009 17:40 HnR)Insane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2009 15:20 IzzyCraft wrote:
Java/C++ is a very common first languages to learn. python is fun to know but consider something like PHP FORTRAN etc

Wtf? FORTRAN and PHP are both terrible ideas for starting languages lol. In fact, I can't see you being likely to need FORTRAN in the future at all unless you work in a specific few industries...

I hear COBOL is pretty good though...
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gzealot
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Singapore238 Posts
April 01 2009 09:09 GMT
#29
COBOL is really industry specific, usually in the banking/ finance industry still using legacy systems,
if you are looking for general languages which are useful in most areas, learn Java/C#/.Net, Python is a scripting language i guess you could pick it up on the side, shouldnt be too difficult.
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-01 09:14:54
April 01 2009 09:10 GMT
#30
really cool to see this reach page 2. I'm going to say Java because I've had a really good time learning it.

I'm also a computer science student, I have a total of two courses in java sadly i've had both so now I learn myself

Note that my post is like - will i recommend java? Yes I will. I have nothing to say about Python never touched it.

Whatever you choose you will probably be ok
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
April 01 2009 11:23 GMT
#31
On April 01 2009 14:45 thunk wrote:
Can't really go wrong with Python, everyone knows it, even beginners. It's a pretty balanced map, and is about as standard as one can get. It's the bread and butter map of this era.

Never heard of Java. Hasn't ever been used in any major league, has it? Probably suffers from some major imbalances and it falls of the normal gamer's knowledge.


On April 01 2009 14:47 ZeroCartin wrote:
Byzantium ftw


On April 01 2009 15:04 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
python is overplayed as fuck



Yeah, I knew there will be StarCraft jokes in Page 1.

Anyway my 2 cents:
1. Java, yeah you see then everywhere, I remember my dad telling me that it's faster than flash since it can handle more stuff etc etc.
2. Python, it's uhh, one of the programming languages closest to everyday life english. I think it's one of those languages where I would rarely see comment tags because the commands are very user friendly.

I haven't really used either of them since I started out with C then C++. If you want to study the granddaddies of programming, go study them in your own risk. But to address the OP, I'd advice you go Python.
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Rhaegar99
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Australia1190 Posts
April 01 2009 11:48 GMT
#32
If you've never had any programming experience, do python first. Syntax is really simple and it's just really easy to learn. Go java/C++ if you already had some experience, though it is alot more difficult.
gzealot
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Singapore238 Posts
April 06 2009 01:54 GMT
#33
Well, i didnt want to make a new Blog for this, but i just wanted to ask: which is a better/more widely accepted scripting language? Perl or PHP?
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
April 06 2009 03:37 GMT
#34
Start with Java. It's so well established, structured and documented, you really can't go wrong.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
gzealot
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Singapore238 Posts
April 06 2009 04:12 GMT
#35
I'm looking for a scripting language - i already know C++/C#/Java, so i need something to link my HTML pages with my progs. JavaScript is not that suitable (or has some functionality which i dont know) =(

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