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selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
March 24 2009 14:19 GMT
#1
So a few weeks back I decided I was going to do a media/informative speech over eSports centralized around Starcraft. So as I was searching for my resources I was looking for things that would stun the common computer illiterate citizens that wander these Texas universities.

So where to start first? The Berkeley game theory of course! So I printed out the outline and referenced it in my speech. The audience particularly liked the part about needing Differential Equations and Calculus to "fully understand this course".

Next, I got a little short interview with Tasteless on Facebook. Nothing special, just asked him how he was adjusting and got some numbers about attendance and so fourth. He couldn't legally give me too much information, but enough information to absolutely flabbergast the people ignorant to a professional Starcraft scene or eSports in general.

So I mentioned this was a media speech.. So naturally I was required to have a Powerpoint/Video clips/ELMO projected photos. So I decided to do two videos and a Powerpoint. When choosing my video I was still going for the stunning effect. So I used Jaedong vs Fantasy, I used about a 30 clip of it where it goes into Jaedong's FPVOD. I used this in support of "what makes an eSport", supporting the "mechanics" or handspeed required to play at such a high level. For my next video I used a small excerpt from the Berkeley class, just showing how many people where actually taking this class and that it indeed was no joke.

I know this is very disorganized, but I don't feel like going back and editing it to improve it. But my main points where What is an eSport and What makes and eSport, eSport's effect on foreign culture(mainly about Korean pro teams/starleagues, this was definitely the most surprising to everyone), eSports (possible)growth in the United States(mentioning Tasteless, NonY, and IdrA in Korea. I elaborated on what NonY gave up going to Korea to make it more dramatic, though I didn't mention he came home), and gaming conventions in the United States(WCG/BlizzCon).

Anyways.. I could elaborate more but I don't feel like it right now. If you want more info on the speech itself I'd be more than happy to post more about it.

But on to the part that actually got me to post this. So I got my speech back today all excited. I mean my speech went very well. Everyone was giving me crazy WTF looks and asking questions like: "Are you serious?" "People actually do that for a living?" "That many people go and watch people play a computer game?". Yeah, you can imagine the smile it gave me. So, back to getting my speech back. I pick it up and read it, the damn thing was like an inch thick from all the research I'd done on it, our teacher requires we turn in all resources down to photo copying pages from the books we referenced. So I look down and see a purple 69. I'm like what the hell is this?

I make a double take to make sure it's mine but is not mistakeable by the size of the packet. So I continue to read down the page. I skim through the rubric and see nothing but Superior(the max credit you can get) on all aspects. Including the vocal pitch/delivery, research, Introduction, relevance and a few others, it's not in front of me atm.

Anyways the only thing I got bad marks on was my conclusion which I got a weak on because of my abrupt ending(ran over time). The speech is marked to be a 6-8 minute speech. I found myself being on the foreign culture with eSports around the 5 minute mark and could have been there for much much longer, same with any point in the speech. Anyways, I hurry myself along not wanting to skip out on anything. So I run over by 23 seconds with the timer frantically waving a red STOP note card at me... Ah, fuck all the details. I got a fucking 69 because I went 23 seconds over on my speech! WTF is that shit? I get max marks on EVERYTHING but 1 and get a 69 because I did too much? Fuck that, she simply told me "it is clearly stated in the rubric".

Mind you I got a 95 on my last speech about the history of Eminem. The person sitting next to me was bitching brandishing an 89 on her paper asking if it would hurt her overall grade. Her speech sucked, good thing she doesn't know much about her topic, Dyslexia, because we couldn't take much more of her bare minimum 6:02 time. Anyways, I don't need to attack her, it's not her fault.. But I'm kind of tweaked about it. Which I don't know why I'm posting it here, I'll get much worse criticism here. Anyways, before flaming me about some point of this, remember I was at least spreading the world of Starcraft. Anyways, happy reading.

**
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
March 24 2009 15:33 GMT
#2
i feel sry for you

is the teacher maybe biased or something?
And all is illuminated.
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
March 24 2009 16:24 GMT
#3
man that sucks. another sad example of teachers not knowing what to reward :/
SaRangHaE
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States182 Posts
March 24 2009 17:21 GMT
#4
I took a public speaking class before and I was always 1-2 minute below the 6-8 minutes minimum but I still had 85-100 everytime ^^ I think being on-topic and the way you deliver a speech is most important, not how long it needs to be. Teacher probably had no idea what you were talking about. I advise in the future if you ever do a speech, try to pick a topic you are less known for. You have the benefit of learning new things. I know it is against the obvious whenever you get the chance to pick a topic of your choice, but some of the time the topic you most likely know a lot about receive less attention. I would pick current world news and find something that relates to it. Example, talk about today's recession and tie it with the great depression back in the 1400s or whenever. It was awesome of you talking about Starcraft and relating it to today's e-sports. Not really everyone's cup of tea, that is unless they actually read it in text and not hear it from a speech. Some people have trouble listening than reading.
don't taze me bro
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
March 24 2009 19:27 GMT
#5
On March 25 2009 02:21 SaRangHaE wrote:
I took a public speaking class before and I was always 1-2 minute below the 6-8 minutes minimum but I still had 85-100 everytime ^^ I think being on-topic and the way you deliver a speech is most important, not how long it needs to be. Teacher probably had no idea what you were talking about. I advise in the future if you ever do a speech, try to pick a topic you are less known for. You have the benefit of learning new things. I know it is against the obvious whenever you get the chance to pick a topic of your choice, but some of the time the topic you most likely know a lot about receive less attention. I would pick current world news and find something that relates to it. Example, talk about today's recession and tie it with the great depression back in the 1400s or whenever. It was awesome of you talking about Starcraft and relating it to today's e-sports. Not really everyone's cup of tea, that is unless they actually read it in text and not hear it from a speech. Some people have trouble listening than reading.

No I specifically went to her office after class and asked how I was marked superior on all my fronts but one and recieved the grade I did. She then told me it was clearly stated in the rubric you could not exceed or go under the 6-8 min mark. Which I found kind of lame because I went over.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-24 19:43:34
March 24 2009 19:42 GMT
#6
It sounds like there was a big red stop sign so she must have been giving you notice when there was a minute and/or thirty seconds left. Good thing you didn't get a zero for going overtime. Gotta follow the guidelines and know how your prof marks.

Edit: Not trying to be a dick but this is how academics works.
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
March 25 2009 00:29 GMT
#7
I know. But that's what I'm saying, it's a bitch.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
ZeeTemplar
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States557 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-25 01:40:06
March 25 2009 01:38 GMT
#8
This bitch needs to get laid. :/ Simple.

[edit] To dock a person so many points for going over 20 seconds is absurd. I took speech classes before and people CLEARLY went over the limited time. They were not docked to many points just as long as they were on topic.
Jangbi storms!!!
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
March 25 2009 02:31 GMT
#9
how can you lose so many points for such a minor mistake? was that clearly stated (how many points you would lose?)
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-25 02:58:10
March 25 2009 02:35 GMT
#10
sounds like your prof is a major bitch.

but was it clearly stated in the "rubric" ? what does that even mean. what exactly was the "rubric" ?
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 25 2009 02:59 GMT
#11
It probably said "you lose 1 point for every second you go over 8 minutes." That's incredibly harsh, but fitting a speech into the proper time frame is important. You should practice timing on your speeches to avoid going over, and pay attention to your timer during the speech. Sucks about your grade though.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
March 25 2009 11:27 GMT
#12
wow that sucks, especially because you got the full score in all the other categories : /
You did so much research, but rules are rules after all..
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