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JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 05:41:25
March 18 2009 05:15 GMT
#1
Hey ive uploaded a few protoss reps vs some of the better people I've played on Iccup so far this season. I'll be updating this to add more as I rank up and play better people, these games are vs C+/B- level.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/s3pb40 --- PvT

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ihdqod --- PvT

http://www.sendspace.com/file/eauomn --- PvZ

http://www.sendspace.com/file/pp0hcw --- ZvP

http://www.sendspace.com/file/qcatek --- PvT


if anyone is interested I can do some explanation and walk through the strategies used, lemme know

http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/saddles.html

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http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 05:27:20
March 18 2009 05:22 GMT
#2
Whoo Saddles is back!

Edit: Wait hang on, might start a shitstorm here but how do you know they're C+/B- level? You've been playing mostly C and C- opponents this season. Did they tell you? Did you evaluate their skill to your own, assuming that you're a solid B- yourself?
JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 05:37:55
March 18 2009 05:30 GMT
#3
On March 18 2009 14:22 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
Whoo Saddles is back!

Edit: Wait hang on, might start a shitstorm here but how do you know they're C+/B- level? You've been playing mostly C and C- opponents this season. Did they tell you? Did you evaluate their skill to your own, assuming that you're a solid B- yourself?



I based it on last seasons ranks and win ratio from this season, everyone I posted so far was B- or higher LAST season, with good win ratio this season.


I just didnt wanna do them no justice and call them C- players when theyre really higher than that ,it's just early in season still, so I checked their ranks from last season.


http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 05:33:17
March 18 2009 05:33 GMT
#4
Lol wise edits, you've saved yourself a lot of time later on
JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 05:43:29
March 18 2009 05:39 GMT
#5
editing is my best friend lately... I have a big mouth I guess.... I seem to get into flame fests whenever posting, so I basically just cut half the post out >_<
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 18 2009 05:53 GMT
#6
not posting at all would be wiser
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[trapcard]
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
16 Posts
March 18 2009 05:58 GMT
#7
what strat was used in all games? too lazy to look
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
March 18 2009 06:03 GMT
#8
lol only 2 posts in this thread haven't been edited.

3 counting this one which won't be edited for any reason whatsoever.

kdog3683
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States916 Posts
March 18 2009 06:04 GMT
#9


if anyone is interested I can do some explanation and walk through the strategies used, lemme know

I'm interested.
Multiply your efforts.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 06:19:44
March 18 2009 06:06 GMT
#10
i was about to ask how your z could take a game off a C level protoss. Then I watched the replay.

Then I was like omg he beat sadist. Then I watched the replay.

Sigh
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
March 18 2009 06:10 GMT
#11
repdepot please
And all is illuminated.
eX-Corgh
Profile Joined October 2007
Russian Federation386 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 06:19:55
March 18 2009 06:10 GMT
#12
O_O your apm is so low... How can you even win with that in 2009? I guess 180-200 is still enough in C ranks.

Please tell my where did you find 160-200 APM terrans? I thought they all have 250+ if they are as good as you make them sound.
Never give cheese to the Gorilla ^^
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 06:16:17
March 18 2009 06:15 GMT
#13
On March 18 2009 15:10 eX-Corgh wrote:
O_O your apm is so low... How can you even win with that in 2009? I guess 180-200 is still enough in high C ranks.

You can get to B- with 150-160 apm even as z or t. Maybe even higher...
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
eX-Corgh
Profile Joined October 2007
Russian Federation386 Posts
March 18 2009 06:22 GMT
#14
On March 18 2009 15:15 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 15:10 eX-Corgh wrote:
O_O your apm is so low... How can you even win with that in 2009? I guess 180-200 is still enough in high C ranks.

You can get to B- with 150-160 apm even as z or t. Maybe even higher...


wow, didn't realize it ><
Never give cheese to the Gorilla ^^
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
March 18 2009 06:25 GMT
#15
pretty sure my 130-150 apm is enough to get b- granted i cared enough
You're pretty when I'm drunk.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
March 18 2009 06:29 GMT
#16
thanks for the rep saddles, good luck on your journey!
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
March 18 2009 06:46 GMT
#17
Kwark got to b and hes a 70 apm toss
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
March 18 2009 06:59 GMT
#18
And the veterans descend
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
March 18 2009 07:06 GMT
#19
effective APM is where it's at...
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
March 18 2009 07:19 GMT
#20
Keep fightin the good fight
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
March 18 2009 07:45 GMT
#21
On March 18 2009 15:10 eX-Corgh wrote:
O_O your apm is so low... How can you even win with that in 2009? I guess 180-200 is still enough in C ranks.

Please tell my where did you find 160-200 APM terrans? I thought they all have 250+ if they are as good as you make them sound.


You base too much on APM.
It felt like gravity.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
March 18 2009 07:54 GMT
#22
On March 18 2009 15:10 eX-Corgh wrote:
O_O your apm is so low... How can you even win with that in 2009? I guess 180-200 is still enough in C ranks.

Please tell my where did you find 160-200 APM terrans? I thought they all have 250+ if they are as good as you make them sound.


He is protoss what do you expect
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
March 18 2009 08:02 GMT
#23
Oh good, another Protoss joke.
It felt like gravity.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
March 18 2009 08:13 GMT
#24
On March 18 2009 15:10 eX-Corgh wrote:
O_O your apm is so low... How can you even win with that in 2009? I guess 180-200 is still enough in C ranks.

Please tell my where did you find 160-200 APM terrans? I thought they all have 250+ if they are as good as you make them sound.

Dude...there is no correlation between skill and APM to that far of an extent...

Pro players in all races play with APMs ranging from 200-500...even terrans like Flash and Mind don't regularly break 300...
Hello
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
March 18 2009 08:22 GMT
#25
Yeah Savior has 250 apm. Stork has 260 apm. Low apm players can be good too. Decision making is more important than handspeed. A D player could have 400 apm and be stuck at D forever. A player will good decision making skills could get to B even with a apm ceiling of 150
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
eX-Corgh
Profile Joined October 2007
Russian Federation386 Posts
March 18 2009 09:31 GMT
#26
Ah great, a remark about his APM and this turned off-topic Sorry.
Never give cheese to the Gorilla ^^
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
March 18 2009 10:24 GMT
#27
nice replays
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
March 18 2009 10:39 GMT
#28
Can someone rehost these on repdepot? Why would you use sendspace... ever?

APM note: a cheesy protoss player can go as high as B, even with 110 apm. Case in point - Kwak.
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 18 2009 13:55 GMT
#29
On March 18 2009 14:39 JoeSaddles wrote:
editing is my best friend lately... I have a big mouth I guess.... I seem to get into flame fests whenever posting, so I basically just cut half the post out >_<

It's as much about the context of your posting as it is the content.
Peace~
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
March 18 2009 14:06 GMT
#30
On March 18 2009 16:54 Resonance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 15:10 eX-Corgh wrote:
O_O your apm is so low... How can you even win with that in 2009? I guess 180-200 is still enough in C ranks.

Please tell my where did you find 160-200 APM terrans? I thought they all have 250+ if they are as good as you make them sound.


He is protoss what do you expect


This
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 17:16:33
March 18 2009 17:15 GMT
#31
my APM is around 180-225... it's effective APM not mindless spamming.
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
March 18 2009 17:23 GMT
#32
On March 18 2009 14:30 JoeSaddles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 14:22 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
Whoo Saddles is back!

Edit: Wait hang on, might start a shitstorm here but how do you know they're C+/B- level? You've been playing mostly C and C- opponents this season. Did they tell you? Did you evaluate their skill to your own, assuming that you're a solid B- yourself?



I based it on last seasons ranks and win ratio from this season, everyone I posted so far was B- or higher LAST season, with good win ratio this season.


I just didnt wanna do them no justice and call them C- players when theyre really higher than that ,it's just early in season still, so I checked their ranks from last season.


Haha yeah you didn't want to do them no justice hahahahhaha, do you really expect anyone to buy that? You are so ridiculously transparent, everyone knows you just want to hype yourself up shamelessly so don't make up bullshit like that, it's insulting to the intelligence of everyone reading this.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 18:23:47
March 18 2009 18:22 GMT
#33
Tbh i watched the replays and i'm not that impressed. For sure you improved quite a lot ( compared to your first replays ) but your level is still not even close to really good foreigners.

You look like a C+ player max.

Most of your reps are really cheesy / allin:
- 4 Gates + shuttle bulldog attack vs T
- Mutaling win after a cheese attempt by P ( he wasted like 3 pylons and 2 cannons for 0 damage to your economy ).
- Win vs a failed burrow-ling trick on destination ( PvZ ).
Then two more standart games vs Sadist and the smi guy. But to be honest they made HUGE and stupid mistakes, they should have won those games.

So yea you look decent ( C+ late season ) but definitly not outstanding.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
March 18 2009 18:57 GMT
#34
On March 18 2009 15:25 CrownRoyal wrote:
pretty sure my 130-150 apm is enough to get b- granted i cared enough

not even as protoss gayleb
Entusman #12
JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
March 18 2009 19:54 GMT
#35
On March 19 2009 02:23 Frits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2009 14:30 JoeSaddles wrote:
On March 18 2009 14:22 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
Whoo Saddles is back!

Edit: Wait hang on, might start a shitstorm here but how do you know they're C+/B- level? You've been playing mostly C and C- opponents this season. Did they tell you? Did you evaluate their skill to your own, assuming that you're a solid B- yourself?



I based it on last seasons ranks and win ratio from this season, everyone I posted so far was B- or higher LAST season, with good win ratio this season.


I just didnt wanna do them no justice and call them C- players when theyre really higher than that ,it's just early in season still, so I checked their ranks from last season.


Haha yeah you didn't want to do them no justice hahahahhaha, do you really expect anyone to buy that? You are so ridiculously transparent, everyone knows you just want to hype yourself up shamelessly so don't make up bullshit like that, it's insulting to the intelligence of everyone reading this.


are you kidding ? why would I call someone a C- player when they hit B- or B last season??? that's called doing them NO justice =p
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
March 18 2009 19:55 GMT
#36
On March 19 2009 03:22 Boblion wrote:
Tbh i watched the replays and i'm not that impressed. For sure you improved quite a lot ( compared to your first replays ) but your level is still not even close to really good foreigners.

You look like a C+ player max.

Most of your reps are really cheesy / allin:
- 4 Gates + shuttle bulldog attack vs T
- Mutaling win after a cheese attempt by P ( he wasted like 3 pylons and 2 cannons for 0 damage to your economy ).
- Win vs a failed burrow-ling trick on destination ( PvZ ).
Then two more standart games vs Sadist and the smi guy. But to be honest they made HUGE and stupid mistakes, they should have won those games.

So yea you look decent ( C+ late season ) but definitly not outstanding.



I know I'm still newb but haven't you noticed that I've improved a lot since the first replays you've seen? I have the potential to be a top AMERICAN, not foreigner overall since there are so many diff countries, but american for sure.
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
Excello.ChOseN
Profile Joined April 2008
United States82 Posts
March 18 2009 20:04 GMT
#37
Saddles you are a god amoung men. Don't let idra tell you differently. Hes just jealous of your godly protoss power.
JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
March 18 2009 20:21 GMT
#38
lol i know im still a newb overall but at least i can be top 15 american if practiced enough, my replays have improve a LOT and I know I have the potential, all the haters can get to C+ rank this early in season, then start talking crap =)
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
March 18 2009 20:24 GMT
#39
On March 19 2009 03:22 Boblion wrote:
Tbh i watched the replays and i'm not that impressed. For sure you improved quite a lot ( compared to your first replays ) but your level is still not even close to really good foreigners.

fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
March 18 2009 20:27 GMT
#40
remember my last time playing competitive was in 2004... I then started up again in december of 2008, Im learning the new maps and practicing a lot and I hope one day to be a top american (not foreigner)
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-18 20:31:46
March 18 2009 20:31 GMT
#41
On March 19 2009 05:27 JoeSaddles wrote:
remember my last time playing competitive was in 2004... I then started up again in december of 2008, Im learning the new maps and practicing a lot and I hope one day to be a top american (not foreigner)

Good luck ( it isn't sarcasm ) I think you might success but it will take you lot of time and training.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 20 2009 04:37 GMT
#42
You have 2 future options if you continue making blogs here:

1)
Waste countless hours getting to that "pro American" level.
-- TL Response: "Wow that kid wasted so much time on this crap LOL and the following things are bad:
a. Played on non-Korean time
b. Played people lower rank than him and no one higher
c. Lost to relative noobie player XXXX
d. Used cheesy strats / abusing map imbalance.
[[pick three]]
What a fckin noob I hate him anyways LOL."

2)
Waste countless hours and still get raped by anyone at or below B after a season or two.
-- TL Response: "Give up kid you are all talk and no show, suck a dick and get a new hobby."




As you can clearly see, it's a lose/lose situation. Stop talking about your ICCup progress, abilities, past "pro" performances, etc., thank you.
Peace~
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
March 20 2009 06:28 GMT
#43
Saddles I know you don't believe this, but I actually posted the rep you beat me and nearly every moderator on this site who asked for it or me about you I showed it too.


The problem was never whether or not you were good or could be. Its that you told everbody else they were wrong.

I watched a couple of your games. Definate improvement keep it up!


Definately not top 15 american yet sorry.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-20 07:19:48
March 20 2009 07:19 GMT
#44
On March 19 2009 04:54 JoeSaddles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2009 02:23 Frits wrote:
On March 18 2009 14:30 JoeSaddles wrote:
On March 18 2009 14:22 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
Whoo Saddles is back!

Edit: Wait hang on, might start a shitstorm here but how do you know they're C+/B- level? You've been playing mostly C and C- opponents this season. Did they tell you? Did you evaluate their skill to your own, assuming that you're a solid B- yourself?



I based it on last seasons ranks and win ratio from this season, everyone I posted so far was B- or higher LAST season, with good win ratio this season.


I just didnt wanna do them no justice and call them C- players when theyre really higher than that ,it's just early in season still, so I checked their ranks from last season.


Haha yeah you didn't want to do them no justice hahahahhaha, do you really expect anyone to buy that? You are so ridiculously transparent, everyone knows you just want to hype yourself up shamelessly so don't make up bullshit like that, it's insulting to the intelligence of everyone reading this.


are you kidding ? why would I call someone a C- player when they hit B- or B last season??? that's called doing them NO justice =p


So you can be like OMG the guys I beat were this |------------ | good.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
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