EPTCommentary Catchphrase Rant - Page 10
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
Proximity 1480, from M.Fr. proximité "nearness" (14c.), from L. proximitatem (nom. proximitas ) "nearness, vicinity," from proximus "nearest," superlative of prope "near." Proximal is first recorded 1727. Proxy c.1440, prokecye, "agency of one who acts instead of another," contraction of Anglo-Fr. procuracie, from M.L. procuratia "administration," from L. procuratio "care, management," from procurare "manage" (see procure). As far as Starcraft, my understand has always been that the usage of proxy was in the most classic sense an agent otherwise unrelated working on the behalf of a individual, or better yet someone "on the outside" hence a "proxy" building is an outside factor unrelated to your base. Obviously you control it, not a third party (that would be cheating!) but it's a substitute to your base | ||
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gyth
657 Posts
Maybe they're channeling their inner Cossell "DOWN GOES FRAZIER" | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
Also they miss little things like what color and what position people are in regards to 3'oclock, 7'oclock etc... Another thing that I kinda cringe at is commentators in mirror matches call the other player the wrong name. So maybe in a White-rA vs Nony they would say a phase prism that belongs to Nony is actually White-rAs. All of these things are very small details but I think they are the easiest to fix. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On July 21 2010 06:33 sung_moon wrote: loooool FFA commentary guys so goooooood personal favs + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAus6r3JY2c last one is done my dirty sanchez and ray ramos(sp) sanchez is even funny commentating on shit he doesnt even know + Show Spoiler + I'm gonna have to agree with Chill here. Rockefeller is THE best video game commentator I have ever heard. Thing is though, since SC isn't as action packed as fighting games, it doesn't translate well. Here is him giving an interview recently though: ---- Also about this whole proxy thing. In magic the gathering proxy is used when a player takes a shitty card and writes on it and uses it place of an expensive rare of a card they don't have/don't want to wear out. So in this instance, the word is used like 'fake/placeholder' Approximate. But in a tournament actually, a proxy has to be near by and proved so you could technically also use it like 'proximity'. Since in starcraft people never use the fake/placeholder version (fake double terran, for example). The usage is exclusively a reference to the fact that it's not at home base, closer to the opponent's base. Proximity. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
I still maintain that proxy has always been proxy, not short for anything. I can understand the confusion since they both look similar and in some cases you can understand the usage of one over the other, but proxy isn't short for proximity and it's a perfectly adequate term on its own for something outside your base so I'm not sure why people would want it to stand for anything else I suppose people could argue the fact that a proxy building absolutely must be a production facility with a shorter than usual rush distance to an opponents base, and that that's why proxy is in actual fact short for proximity but to me that's reaching even further to call this spade something other than a spade http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Proxy Not sure if that was changed recently or not | ||
Chill
Calgary25987 Posts
Maybe it's changed but I'm going with the 2000 definitions here. I mean at this point there's no reason to continue discussing it. They both make sense and proxy has taken on its own meaning in video games. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
As far back as I can recall, it was always a "proxy pylon" that was used to make hidden DT tech. In fact, I don't recall a time when a pylon itself was ever offensive, but was always considered proxy if it was outside of your base. Proxy gateways fit this narrow definition, but why is "proxy pylon" so ubiquitous to SC if proxies are strictly offensive maneuvers | ||
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Chill
Calgary25987 Posts
On July 22 2010 23:52 floor exercise wrote: It couldn't possibly be that whoever told you that in 2000 got it wrong to begin with As far back as I can recall, it was always a "proxy pylon" that was used to make hidden DT tech. In fact, I don't recall a time when a pylon itself was ever offensive, but was always considered proxy if it was outside of your base. Proxy gateways fit this narrow definition, but why is "proxy pylon" so ubiquitous to SC if proxies are strictly offensive maneuvers I don't know! | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25987 Posts
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Pholon
Netherlands6142 Posts
Colossus // Colossi - that's singular // plural. Now in early beta there was some confusion as to what the plural of Colossus was, but now people are using "Colossi" for singular. Wtf is up with that. "We'll have to wait and see" - Usually you don't. "Fast X, X rush" - Some commentators say this regardless of time at which it's built. wth. "So smart of Huk putting a pylon here to reinforce" - it's not smart. it's superduper standard. Short air distances - WE KNOW. OH FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST WE KNOOOOOW Extra chance adverbs "could possibly/potentially do x" - asdf. Hidden expo - when spawning in close positions on a 4p map, taking the main base opposite your opponent's isn't "hidden", it's the clever thing to do. Day9 also uses "push" a lot when they're attacks. :/ Also "unbelievable" things are usually quite believable "X loves doing Y", seriously? that's it for now >_> | ||
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Chill
Calgary25987 Posts
Harass is a verb. Harassment is a noun. Expand is a verb. Expansion is a noun. | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
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Gann1
United States1575 Posts
On July 24 2010 16:00 Pholon wrote: Day9 also uses "push" a lot when they're attacks. :/ much of the community has copied him, and it's annoying  | ||
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Hittegods
Stockholm4641 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
It implies you're conquering a lot of occupied/defender territory though. So if you roll through multiple expansions like in tvp SC1 without sieging that's a push. If you break a siege and continue driving to their base it's a push. | ||
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Scribble
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TadH
Canada1846 Posts
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JackOscar
Sweden50 Posts
"Wow, I don't think july's going to be able to come back from this" When he's at 1 base vs 4 base terran who has 14 siege tanks at his nat, OFC he isn't coming back from this. | ||
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