EPTAnd you really do need drones eco to be able to fight mech, another mistake I made was not making 4-6 scourge with my initial muta because he starported so valkyries were very likely, and indeed the 3rd was a little late. Defense vs harass can always be better of course. I should have maybe powered even more because he was low on unit and camped to his 3rd for a while, getting more expoes and faster hive/defiler. Agression really will get you nowhere vs mech, at one point you need mass units and defiler/ling to be able to fight a good player doing it. (good players won't die to drops unless you're really ahead) Once he had 4 valkyries and the middle camped defiler/mass crackling was really the only option, he had a vessel too so he was just gonna own mutas bad, and was able to mass tank cuz muta threat was neutralized..really tough.
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Liquid`Ret
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And you really do need drones eco to be able to fight mech, another mistake I made was not making 4-6 scourge with my initial muta because he starported so valkyries were very likely, and indeed the 3rd was a little late. Defense vs harass can always be better of course. I should have maybe powered even more because he was low on unit and camped to his 3rd for a while, getting more expoes and faster hive/defiler. Agression really will get you nowhere vs mech, at one point you need mass units and defiler/ling to be able to fight a good player doing it. (good players won't die to drops unless you're really ahead) Once he had 4 valkyries and the middle camped defiler/mass crackling was really the only option, he had a vessel too so he was just gonna own mutas bad, and was able to mass tank cuz muta threat was neutralized..really tough. | ||
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AttackZerg
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On March 05 2009 09:45 ret wrote: (good players won't die to drops unless you're really ahead) Thats the thing. I think you had the game in the bag. You had him forced into gol/tank from (as far as you know) 2 or 3 factorys, this can play out exactly like zvp(5 hat hydra/muta) or even hydra/lurker. Most of my analysis is about the decisions that are possible from the time his CC lifted until you had your third mining. Why would you want him guessing about hydras btw? I want terran to always think I'm going pure hydra at all times. Otherwise how do you force him into over producing tanks/vultures? We do differ alot in approaches. Although the way you played in the vs mech thread, is exactly how I approach it. Oh and the drops are ... 2-3 lords of hydras, I do'nt doom drop. I delay drop. I don't actually intend to win from them, just inflict damage, pick off depots/turrets. nothing major. | ||
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4538 Posts
maybe drop could work vs an 8 raxing terran whos low eco and then on top of that if you kill scvs / make scv lift cuz he'll be low on units/eco... i haven't really thought about that too much i want him thinking fast spire so my first hydra push can do a lot of dmg | ||
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Cloud
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On March 05 2009 11:09 ret wrote: You lost mainly because of your decision to go mutas so early, without a set econ. Imo either open completely with mutas or wait until you have at least 3 set bases, otherwise just get spire for carapace and keep droning and stay on hydraling. You were poorer for most of the game. Army positioning was also an issue. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7665 Posts
On March 05 2009 11:09 ret wrote: the way i played it in the topic is the way i still play, mass drone as much as possible and get units in time to stop a mid game push, then get big for late game. maybe drop could work vs an 8 raxing terran whos low eco and then on top of that if you kill scvs / make scv lift cuz he'll be low on units/eco... i haven't really thought about that too much i want him thinking fast spire so my first hydra push can do a lot of dmg I agree I like the way you play it. I just like to show my hand, force him to go early tank, earlier second fact. Delay his Acad/Ebay so even if I can't stop his expo, I ruin his standard timing. Drops are a way to keep preasure on when mutas and front door hydra can't. I think doom droping is just like saying " here is a free win" | ||
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FML. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
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What a champion. | ||
BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
I played sumadream and fucked up so hard, it sent me into a tailspin of noobness. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7665 Posts
On March 05 2009 13:27 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: there u go I just finished an hour and 42 minute zvp ... fucking koreans | ||
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fanatacist
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On March 05 2009 22:53 AttackZerg wrote: I just finished an hour and 42 minute zvp ... fucking koreans o_o rep | ||
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Cloud
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fanatacist
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On March 06 2009 08:33 Cloud wrote: Hello.. arbiters? I actually openned with a semi-stove build so I had arbiters really early -_- | ||
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