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nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
February 23 2009 00:08 GMT
#1
I am buying a new desktop computer because my current laptop is very bad, and is basically only good for internet browsing and writing word documents.

I have no idea how to build a computer myself so I would would way rather buy one, after looking through some on the Best Buy site I found one that could be acceptable. Just wondering what other more techy people think of it.

Link

Product Details

Web Code: 10119254
Mfr. Part Number: FK789AAR#ABA

Base Features
Processor Type Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300
Processor Speed: 2.5GHz
RAM: 8GB PC2-6400 DDR2 SDRAM
Hard Drive Speed/Capacity: 750GB 7200RPM SATA
Optical Drives: SuperMulti DVD Burner With LightScribe
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT
Pre-loaded Operating System: Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit SP1

Graphics
Dedicated Video Memory: Yes
Shared Video Memory: Up to 2303MB
TV Tuner: No
Video Memory: 512MB Dedicated

Audio
Audio Output: High Definition Audio, 8-Speaker Config
Digital Input: Yes
Digital Output: Yes
Integrated Microphone: No
Line Out: Yes
Line-In input: Yes
Microphone Input: Yes
Sound Card: Intel G33 Express
Speaker Wattage: Not Applicable
Speakers: No

Networking
Ethernet Port: 10/100/1000Mbps
Integrated Bluetooth: No
Integrated WiFi: 802.11b/g/n

What does Integrated WiFi: 802.11b/g/n mean?

Cost: 1k

Also since I somehow could be missing something, would this be enough to run SC2?





FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
February 23 2009 00:11 GMT
#2
It's a wireless adapter. the b/g/n simply means that it supports Wireless B, Wireless G, and Wireless N routers.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
February 23 2009 00:12 GMT
#3
That's more than enough to run SC2. If you want to use that as a gaming rig, I would replace the graphics card. Also, are you sure you want to get a refurbished one?
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 00:16:10
February 23 2009 00:13 GMT
#4
What the hell does refurbished mean when refering to a computer??

Also I thought that the graphics card was pretty good, am I wrong? I don't know very much about graphics cards.
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 00:16:17
February 23 2009 00:15 GMT
#5
On February 23 2009 09:13 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
What the hell does refurbished mean when refering to a computer??


Means it either has been returned or was used as a store model. As long as there is a good warranty and they tell you the reason why it was refurbished, you should be fine.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
February 23 2009 00:18 GMT
#6
On February 23 2009 09:15 Try wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2009 09:13 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
What the hell does refurbished mean when refering to a computer??


Means it either has been returned or was used as a store model. As long as there is a good warranty and they tell you the reason why it was refurbished, you should be fine.


Do you suggest, that I don't get a refurbished one?
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
February 23 2009 00:18 GMT
#7
If you are using this for a home computer (and assuming you don't do anything that requires a PC that has kickass specs), it will be more than enough

I'm not really a tech savvy, but the specs are very good, and should be able to run most games smoothly
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 00:20:17
February 23 2009 00:18 GMT
#8
This build needs a LOT of changes imo. What is your price range 1k for just the tower?
For sure you don't want a 9 series geforce. Get any a 260 or better.
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 00:26:19
February 23 2009 00:22 GMT
#9
assuming the american : canadian exchange rate is close that is a pretty expensive computer.

http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/desktop-studioxps-435mt?c=us&cs=19&l=en&ref=dthp&s=dhs

i7 core for the same price (in USD at least) and not refrubished, the choice is easy.

although the graphics card is no where as good on the dell, overall the computer is of far better value a decent video card will cost you around $150 and if you just wait for sc2 to come out before you buy it it'll be better.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
February 23 2009 00:26 GMT
#10
On February 23 2009 09:22 mahnini wrote:
assuming the american : canadian exchange rate is close that is a pretty expensive computer.

http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/desktop-studioxps-435mt?c=us&cs=19&l=en&ref=dthp&s=dhs

i7 core for the same price (in USD at least) and not refrubished, the choice is easy.


Shipping & Handling?
He could drive to best buy to pick up the comp he mentions above instead of paying an extra $$
but yeah i7 for same price[exluding s&h] is pretty baller
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
February 23 2009 00:29 GMT
#11
don't buy Vista. Windows 7 will be out by the end of the year. this is something I'd consider.
This is my truth, tell me yours!
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
February 23 2009 00:30 GMT
#12
shipping and hadling would come out to 2% of total purchase price max. it shouldnt even be a factor as these two computers are no where near comparable.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
February 23 2009 00:35 GMT
#13
Also I don't need a monitor since I already have one from my current laptop dual monitor setup, but I may purchase one later.
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
February 23 2009 00:36 GMT
#14
Pretty decent computer that I think you should get
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 01:19:04
February 23 2009 00:50 GMT
#15
can games or software even make use of a quad core? do you need 720 gigabyte HDD? If the answer to both is no, then go to a mom's and pops and tell them to build you a top of the line core 2 duo with a smaller hard drive. you can install your own os. you'd save a couple of hundred dollars i think.

edit: on second thought, looks like quads and duos are similarly priced wtf? and harddisk are dirt cheap.

edit2: having compared prices, i think it's better to go to a local and get them to assembly the parts you want, it's cheaper and you get better parts and brand new.
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
February 23 2009 01:11 GMT
#16
if games can't make use of a quad core what else can? this isn't for his rocket science lab (I guess)
This is my truth, tell me yours!
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
February 23 2009 01:15 GMT
#17
Yea, it seems to me that computers have made huge progress in the last few years. My current laptop is terrible bad and i bought it for around the price of 1200. I cannot play most games on it actually, like I can't play cod2 and I can't run wow very well either (10 fps ).
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
February 23 2009 01:22 GMT
#18
On February 23 2009 10:11 distant_voice wrote:
if games can't make use of a quad core what else can? this isn't for his rocket science lab (I guess)


hardware is usually ahead of software, so it's not like you can automatically use whatever new cpu that comes out every month. I think a core 2 duo is more than enough but the price diff. between quad and core isn't that much, 30-40 dollars i guess.

still, go to a store and get them to build it for you. It'll be brand new and you get a much more advanced computer.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
February 23 2009 01:26 GMT
#19
On February 23 2009 10:22 gg_hertzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2009 10:11 distant_voice wrote:
if games can't make use of a quad core what else can? this isn't for his rocket science lab (I guess)

still, go to a store and get them to build it for you. It'll be brand new and you get a much more advanced computer.


You can do that?
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
February 23 2009 01:33 GMT
#20
On February 23 2009 09:29 distant_voice wrote:
don't buy Vista. Windows 7 will be out by the end of the year. this is something I'd consider.

I've heard that they might offer free Windows 7 upgrades for all people who have purchased Vista, but I'm not sure how legit that is. To be safe, I myself would just wait until Windows 7 is out. Vista sucks.
Super serious.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
February 23 2009 01:36 GMT
#21
Alright the real reason I want to buy a comp, is because I only get like avg 15 FPS on low quality on wow DONT JUDGE ME!!!!
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
February 23 2009 01:37 GMT
#22
you know windows 7 is basically vista with a few fixes right? i find it interesting how people abhor vista like it killed their family yet praise windows 7 for its greatness when the two are more similar than different. doesnt make any sense to me.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
February 23 2009 01:38 GMT
#23
On February 23 2009 10:33 Centric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2009 09:29 distant_voice wrote:
don't buy Vista. Windows 7 will be out by the end of the year. this is something I'd consider.

I've heard that they might offer free Windows 7 upgrades for all people who have purchased Vista, but I'm not sure how legit that is. To be safe, I myself would just wait until Windows 7 is out. Vista sucks.

Vista doesnt' suck. Theres just some slight compatability issues but other then that, it's fine
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
February 23 2009 01:47 GMT
#24
On February 23 2009 10:26 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2009 10:22 gg_hertzz wrote:
On February 23 2009 10:11 distant_voice wrote:
if games can't make use of a quad core what else can? this isn't for his rocket science lab (I guess)

still, go to a store and get them to build it for you. It'll be brand new and you get a much more advanced computer.


You can do that?


yeah, they charge like 20-30 dollars but so do the best buy stuff they just include that in the price. if you you need the pc quickly, buy the bestbuy, if you can wait a week do some research on the parts you really want and then buy em from mom and pops.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
February 23 2009 01:52 GMT
#25
researching the parts sounds fun actually, so I think I will do that, although I don't know about computers much so i might fuck up on some things such as getting a processor that isn't compatible with something.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20074 Posts
February 23 2009 02:10 GMT
#26
pm maleorderbride he'll build you a comp and ship it for cheaper and better specs
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
February 23 2009 02:14 GMT
#27
On February 23 2009 10:37 mahnini wrote:
you know windows 7 is basically vista with a few fixes right? i find it interesting how people abhor vista like it killed their family yet praise windows 7 for its greatness when the two are more similar than different. doesnt make any sense to me.


I don't use it, but it's very expensive and some people seem to have trouble with it. it also seems to be a resource hog. If you have to pay for a new OS and it's over a 100$ it better be something excellent.

I also heard that Microsoft would let Vista users upgrade, but definately not for free. I heard it'll be 50$ but who knows?
This is my truth, tell me yours!
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
February 23 2009 02:19 GMT
#28
I heard that downgrading to XP from vista is somewhat annoying, so I was thinking about just dual booting XP and vista.
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
February 23 2009 02:26 GMT
#29
why would it be annoying? just clean install and never think about it again.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
February 23 2009 02:47 GMT
#30
On February 23 2009 10:33 Centric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2009 09:29 distant_voice wrote:
don't buy Vista. Windows 7 will be out by the end of the year. this is something I'd consider.

I've heard that they might offer free Windows 7 upgrades for all people who have purchased Vista, but I'm not sure how legit that is. To be safe, I myself would just wait until Windows 7 is out. Vista sucks.


Yes, but you have to have bought vista after a certain date.
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 03:20:55
February 23 2009 03:19 GMT
#31
Vista doesn't suck it's just fine the person running vista sucks that's the problem. You never hear people compling how annoying to get shit working on linux is, is becuase they are willing and know how to go the extra mile to get shit running just fine and don't fuck shit up.

If you are just looking to run wow that one would run it great. Only porb is refrubished can mean alot of things just get a warranty for awhile i just find refrubished= used HDD if it makes a noise that doesn't sound like a scraping of a fan when you turn it on ask them to replace the HDD it's obviously been used way too much. I would benchmark your parts to see if they been used in a suscide benchmark. Refrubished is fine as long as you can check it's performence computer parts not overclock can easly last 15 years 5 years if they are overclocked.

Only porb with that computer and running wow is the 9800GT is limited to 512mb which can be just fine for like 19" moinor at 22 24 it may be limiting although in WoW more fps problems can be caused by slow internet then slow computer.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
February 23 2009 03:39 GMT
#32
From everyones advice here the best thing for me too do would be too build my own. So I guess I will more then likely make another blog in a week or so with all the parts I am considering including.
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
February 23 2009 04:20 GMT
#33
It's not hard to build a computer now of days puting one other is really easy. The hardest part of putting everything toghter is where to plug power,reset, usb and sata ports from the computer case to the motherboard. Else everything is just plug it into the slot that looks right. I would recommend Vista just so you dont have to deal with a crappy floppy drive for achi with sata.

really you just need to tell us what you will be using it for with various degress of importance if games which games nvidia and ati perform differently in some games they are = and cpu and ram is more imporant in certian games and we can recommend you a build.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
feathers
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States236 Posts
February 23 2009 05:06 GMT
#34
don't get 8gs of ram.You will never need 8gs of ram. It's a big waste of money imo.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
February 23 2009 05:09 GMT
#35
Umm I want it mostly just for gaming, probably will only be wow and starcraft2 but I also want to keep my options open for the future of course.
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