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motbob
United States12546 Posts
You know, on second thought, it's probably + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Archaic
United States4024 Posts
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Aesop
Hungary11305 Posts
lets not discuss the meaning of 'better' here, but he obviously had, and it IS related to his age to some extent Younger players have more time to live the dream and less alternatives. | ||
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iloahz
United States964 Posts
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
On second thought, JF would be the best choice of all, I'd say. | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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GTR
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JF isn't interested/starting at Waterloo soon. Strelok/White-Ra seem to be too old (?) plus language barrier of English also being their second language. | ||
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hazz
United Kingdom570 Posts
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SnowFantasy
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The list of possibilities I were thinking: Strelok - Third in WCG right? Seems to be playing pretty well all over the place too. IefNaij - JF is definitely good but too young isn't he? F91 - F91 is playing pretty well right now. Cloud - Inactive isn't he? I don't think its him. Mondragon - I doubt Mondragon would be interested in this. White-Ra - I think from a korean perspective White-Ra is too old to be picked These are just the players off the top of my head that I would consider "good enough". Im sure I've forgotten people though. I'll say they chose F91. edit: gtr brought up language barrier. i don't know if f91 speaks english so probably not. WAIT what if it's artosis himself? | ||
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dream-_-
United States1857 Posts
I honestly cant think of any good applicants to go to korea at the moment, but apparently eSTRO knows better. If I had to guess? It's another young american player. bryce in korea? | ||
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fanatacist
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Maybe it's some kid from some unknown country who has 1 PC game, StarCraft, and like Indian mathematicians of old he trained himself to be the most gosu player ever because he has been playing since the age of 3. | ||
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iloveoil
Norway171 Posts
 they really havent gotten a shot yet which is a shame because some of them are really goodbut i guess they might want a white/black player and not an asian one :\ | ||
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dream-_-
United States1857 Posts
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
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Astrogation
United States477 Posts
On February 14 2009 06:08 iloveoil wrote: I really hope its a chinese player they really havent gotten a shot yet which is a shame because some of them are really goodbut i guess they might want a white/black player and not an asian one :\ Actually Lx and Pj were invited to SKT1 and were progamers for a short period of time. I believe they left because of language barrier and because of the fact that a proscene was starting to pick up in China as well. | ||
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ffswowsucks
Greece2298 Posts
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
On February 14 2009 05:56 SnowFantasy wrote: I was just thinking about this. The list of possibilities I were thinking: Strelok - Third in WCG right? Seems to be playing pretty well all over the place too. IefNaij - JF is definitely good but too young isn't he? F91 - F91 is playing pretty well right now. Cloud - Inactive isn't he? I don't think its him. Mondragon - I doubt Mondragon would be interested in this. White-Ra - I think from a korean perspective White-Ra is too old to be picked These are just the players off the top of my head that I would consider "good enough". Im sure I've forgotten people though. I'll say they chose F91. edit: gtr brought up language barrier. i don't know if f91 speaks english so probably not. WAIT what if it's artosis himself? they like'em young though. | ||
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hugitout
United States379 Posts
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
On February 14 2009 06:17 ffswowsucks wrote: Why dont they want older people? bad reflexes, slower on keyboard/apm, etc. koreans love their apm. | ||
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SnowFantasy
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not sure who "bryce" is as someone referenced (machine?) if it is I don't think it would be him. machine is good but i dont know if he is the best choice. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
http://www.fragdominant.com/news/40/ | ||
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On February 14 2009 06:17 ffswowsucks wrote: Why dont they want older people? They want younger korean kids because they have more time to develop them, and if teens/early 20s is the "prime" for pro gaming then they will hit their peak when they are truly developed. As far as foreigners we can't just apply the same logic. You can't really pack up a 14 year old US citizen and put him to work for 12 hours a day as a pro gamer in another country. You'd probably need to bring their parents. Likely they want foreigners as close to 18 as possible. I think White Ra is like 28 years old so I doubt they would take him | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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Pengu1n
United States552 Posts
On February 14 2009 06:44 Plexa wrote: Youngest player i can think of that would go would be DinOt Thats what I was thinking. | ||
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leMaj24
United States262 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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poilord
Germany3252 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + -_- Maybe it's Artosis himself | ||
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GTR
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On February 14 2009 06:27 zoLo wrote: Frag Dominant picks up ToaD? RANDOM http://www.fragdominant.com/news/40/ who the fuck is he. i love how they are saying he will 'traveling to a large list of venues in the 2009 circuit' when there is virtually no notable events in korea except for the professional ones. probably just some d+ chump | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On February 14 2009 06:44 Plexa wrote: Youngest player i can think of that would go would be DinOt Yeah I think DinOt would actually be a really good choice for eSTRO (at least as good a choice as any foreigner can be). I'd like to see cloud but it seems he's made his choice. I'd like to see JF, but he has no interest. And White-Ra is like BoxeR's age. Brat and Strelok would be nice, but I still think DinOt seems like the best choice, if he has a passion to become a progamer that is. | ||
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benjammin
United States2728 Posts
edit: also younger players are less likely to have other commitments in life affect their training | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
They've always played strong. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
Or maybe Cloud ( but i think he is slighty older and so has less potential to improve ). Brat_OK / Dreiven / Ra / Strelok are too old or have too much social skills to success here. And Korean would ruin F-91 fun style -.- ( he is too old anyway ). They shouln't send people with girlfriends to Korea ! ( wait maybe those i have named aren't single :O ) As Idra case proved we need young and brave nerds to face Korean training ! :D | ||
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dream-_-
United States1857 Posts
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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11601 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + who is it? | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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caelym
United States6430 Posts
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
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Ganfei
Taiwan1439 Posts
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Ideas
United States8178 Posts
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fanatacist
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On February 14 2009 07:13 Boblion wrote: They shouln't send people with girlfriends to Korea ! ( wait maybe those i have named aren't single :O ) As Idra case proved we need young and brave nerds to face Korean training ! :D LOL +1 | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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GunsofthePatriots
South Africa991 Posts
On February 14 2009 08:02 Kennigit wrote: its me i lol'd | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
He's serious | ||
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hooktits
United States972 Posts
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
1 more try | ||
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
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fanatacist
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On February 14 2009 08:44 Rekrul wrote: i'm going back, bored of poker 1 more try LOL deathgod you don't know shit, it ain't over until Rekrul does it. | ||
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gg_hertzz
2152 Posts
On February 14 2009 06:20 Raithed wrote: bad reflexes, slower on keyboard/apm, etc. koreans love their apm. not to mention that smell that lingers whereever they go. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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lungo
Denmark276 Posts
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littlechava
United States7221 Posts
it's spades | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On February 14 2009 08:21 HatchetWound wrote: Incontrol to korea!!!! ^^ <3 :D | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
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littlechava
United States7221 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On February 14 2009 09:35 littlechava wrote: he's like 27... He is grandpa ... | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
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jeddus
United States832 Posts
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Xiberia
Sweden634 Posts
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littlechava
United States7221 Posts
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On February 14 2009 06:52 GTR-2-Go wrote: who the fuck is he. i love how they are saying he will 'traveling to a large list of venues in the 2009 circuit' when there is virtually no notable events in korea except for the professional ones. probably just some d+ chump Haha, I know right? This guy was a huge SK.wc3 fanboy and now he's switching over to SC. It's either Frag Dominant has no knowledge in the SC scene or they just want to be a huge multigaming team to attract sponsors. | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9377 Posts
On February 14 2009 09:56 littlechava wrote: seriously, has a zerg foreigner EVER been in korea? SuncOw, but he doesn't count since he was a bitch. | ||
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
On February 14 2009 07:16 dream-_- wrote: on second thought, I am going with fenix on this one. Yeah I am going to have to agree w/ya there. Remember in the scforall game of fenix vs idra? Daniel Lee mentioned he wanted to see more of Fenix. Plus he is pretty young as well. The only other one I can think of is F91. If you check out his iccup stats, he plays a lot of koreans and has managed to get A- right now, so that's pretty incredible. Not sure how old he is though. | ||
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GTR
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Haven't seen him in many major tournaments/ladder/stamina/whatever. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
He is definitly not a good pick for a Korean team + they will ruin his style and it would be so so sad  | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/nah_deska.html | ||
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himurakenshin
Canada1845 Posts
thats crazy if that's true | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
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ilistis
United States828 Posts
On February 14 2009 10:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: After 4 pages of speculation, do we know if this is real, or it's just an unconfirmed rumor? I'd also like to know that. Enough of protoss, let's hope it's a zerg. | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On February 14 2009 10:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: After 4 pages of speculation, do we know if this is real, or it's just an unconfirmed rumor? unless Artosis is in the business of lying to the Starcraft community, it's real. What's not confirmed is whether the player has accepted or not. | ||
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Snare
Trinidad/Tobago129 Posts
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ilovehnk
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ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
I'm really at a loss as to who else it could be. I guess Strelok would be a good choice, but I agree with the sentiment that they're more likely to pick up a Protoss or Zerg. Edit: Now that I've thought about it for awhile Dreiven seems plausible. I see Fenix is being thrown around a lot- was Daniel Lee really that impressed? I never thought Fenix was one of the best. | ||
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hazz
United Kingdom570 Posts
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BalliSLife
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Ganfei
Taiwan1439 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On February 14 2009 10:31 Snare wrote: I think that ESTRO would look for someone with decent mechanics and then teach them how to play. So Dinot would be an awful pick. < 200 APM zerg ? The only foreigner that a proteam may pick with such low APM is Mondragon, becuase he's very known and established around the bw universe. Fenix, Castro, Deska and maybe even ClouD or JF. I call JF last bcuz even though he obviously the best player there, I think the previous 3 would be more attractive to ESTRO becuase of their mechanics or potential i.e. APM. Not saying that Jf couldn't raise his APM if he really wanted to. I hope its JF !!! You act like having a low APM makes you a shitty player. Dinot is A- or higher with 180. And you seem to think that raising your APM will make him better mechanically or potentially i doubt this is true even in the slightest And i doubt it would be Castro, they cant have someone cheese every game and except to get far :> | ||
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WindCalibur
Canada938 Posts
On February 14 2009 10:31 Snare wrote: I think that ESTRO would look for someone with decent mechanics and then teach them how to play. So Dinot would be an awful pick. < 200 APM zerg ? The only foreigner that a proteam may pick with such low APM is Mondragon, becuase he's very known and established around the bw universe. Fenix, Castro, Deska and maybe even ClouD or JF. I call JF last bcuz even though he obviously the best player there, I think the previous 3 would be more attractive to ESTRO becuase of their mechanics or potential i.e. APM. Not saying that Jf couldn't raise his APM if he really wanted to. I hope its JF !!! Check his EAPM (its not low for sure). APM means shit, EAPM = DA SHITT. | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8093 Posts
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Ganfei
Taiwan1439 Posts
On February 14 2009 12:39 arb wrote: You act like having a low APM makes you a shitty player. Dinot is A- or higher with 180. And you seem to think that raising your APM will make him better mechanically or potentially i doubt this is true even in the slightest And i doubt it would be Castro, they cant have someone cheese every game and except to get far :> You are always talking shit in like 50% of your posts when you're such a noobie yourself | ||
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never_Nal
Costa Rica676 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On February 14 2009 12:39 arb wrote: You act like having a low APM makes you a shitty player. Dinot is A- or higher with 180. And you seem to think that raising your APM will make him better mechanically or potentially i doubt this is true even in the slightest And i doubt it would be Castro, they cant have someone cheese every game and except to get far :> no korean team will take anyone with sub 200 apm, especially not a non protoss it took alot of bitching to get them to compromise on the age thing, which is illogical in the first place. but you cant compete with koreans when theyre twice as fast as you. just not gonna work. | ||
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Red.Cloud
Canada235 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On February 14 2009 12:39 arb wrote: You act like having a low APM makes you a shitty player. Dinot is A- or higher with 180. And you seem to think that raising your APM will make him better mechanically or potentially i doubt this is true even in the slightest And i doubt it would be Castro, they cant have someone cheese every game and except to get far :> Umm, no, APM matters. I remember reading an interview some time ago mentioning almost exactly what Snare said. Teams essentially picked out players with high APM (i.e. raw talent) and then teach you how to play. To me, this makes a lot of sense. It's a physical limitation and it's not something you can teach easily. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On February 14 2009 10:27 motbob wrote: unless Artosis is in the business of lying to the Starcraft community, it's real. What's not confirmed is whether the player has accepted or not. Ascension Finals counts as a lie, doesn't it? lol Not sure who will go, but JF would be a good pick, if he wanted to go. | ||
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Tibs
United States148 Posts
On February 14 2009 09:56 littlechava wrote: seriously, has a zerg foreigner EVER been in korea? Other than Suncow, Incontrol went and I went in 2006 to try out some luck in Courage. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
wish i did! | ||
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Tibs
United States148 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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Puosu
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i bet he lied he is the best foreigner or something and the idiot team was gullible enough to believe lool | ||
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Tibs
United States148 Posts
Its an experience though. I pretty much wasted $1600 on airfare but it was still enjoyable for the time I was there. Im looking into going back later this year but for work instead, since I'll probably be stationed in Seoul at Osan Air-Force Base, then I just gotta find a way to sneak off on the weekends from the wife and baby girl  | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On February 14 2009 13:11 Scaramanga wrote: Dinot imo, :D, hes like 16 and beaaaastly yes and he is a kid, in middle of school and no responsible parents would accept this. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
Seriously I think its Artosis :p | ||
NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
I'm sure it'll be worth the wait. | ||
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lungo
Denmark276 Posts
artosis should just make those videos as he do, i enjoy them, if he start practicing like hell @ estro, he wouldnt be able to make more videos :/ | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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KizZBG
u gotta skate8152 Posts
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Killy
United States39 Posts
It'll give us something to watch | ||
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Pads
England3228 Posts
I'm allowed to wishful think, there's no law against it! | ||
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On February 14 2009 22:52 Pads wrote: MidiaN lives in korea? I'm allowed to wishful think, there's no law against it! He playes poker,he won´t change earning money to earning nothing ^^ | ||
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Hittegods
Stockholm4642 Posts
On February 14 2009 21:38 {88}iNcontroL wrote: 100th post | ||
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Tibs
United States148 Posts
Fenix JF Dimaga Dreiven Arew F91 Ret Would be 3 from those races. If it is too be a terran player then your choices drop even more. Strelok Brat Never Super A2 | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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minus_human
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Tibs
United States148 Posts
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CapO
United States1615 Posts
On February 14 2009 22:57 Ilvy wrote: He playes poker,he won´t change earning money to earning nothing ^^ yeah, no way in hell would he even be able to compete against mediocre progamers. simply, he sucks too much. no earning in progaming for this guy. | ||
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Racenilatr
United States2756 Posts
On February 15 2009 09:10 IdrA wrote: are you really american I would be careful who you're talking to, as you didn't have a quote in it Not everyone here is American XD | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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Tibs
United States148 Posts
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