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Guilford
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia290 Posts
February 07 2009 09:00 GMT
#1
I am currently at high school in my country. Grade 11 now and trying my best to graduate early right now. If I am lucky, I will graduate this year.

I already got my toefl score already (96 total, my speaking score sucks). I don't think I will take SAT (too busy now).
My GPA is around 3.8 .

My teacher recommended me Portland State University and University of Montana. I would like to study for biology or chemistry or health sciences degree or maybe a psychology degree. After undergraduate, I would like to study medical, if I can make it.

Which universities should I choose? Any other suggestions are welcome too.

Thanks in advance.

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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-07 09:04:43
February 07 2009 09:04 GMT
#2
you need to let us know what you are looking for in a university.

i'm talking about stuff like:
size of school
location (both location in the US, and urban vs suburban etc)
how much $$ you have available
etc

also, i'm not quite sure how international admissions works but i'm pretty sure it's a good idea to take the SAT.

also out of curiosity, where are you from?
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
February 07 2009 09:14 GMT
#3

also, i'm not quite sure how international admissions works but i'm pretty sure it's a good idea to take the SAT.


University of Montana-
"You must meet the following admission requirements in addition to completing the international application procedures:

* An English language proficiency score showing one of the following:
o 61 iBT (173CBT/500PBT) on the Test of English as a Foreign Language (TOEFL); or
o 5.5 on the International English Language Testing System (IELTS); or
o 69 on the Michigan English Language Assessment Battery (MELAB); or
o 440 on the SAT Writing Section; or
o 18 on the Combined English/Writing section of the ACT
* A minimum grade point average of 2.5 on a 4.0 scale for freshman applicants or a minimum grade point average of 2.0 on a 4.0 scale for transfer applicants. The admissions office will determine grade point average if one is not available on a student's academic record.
* A statement of financial support that verifies that $ 25,563 will be available to you to cover estimated costs for the academic year.

You just need one of those, and he already took TOEFL and his score is wayyy past the requirement so meh.

I would like to study for biology or chemistry or health sciences degree or maybe a psychology degree. After undergraduate, I would like to study medical, if I can make it.

It would be in your best interest to pick either biochem/ psychology / or medical ; because most universities have different programs and one college may not have... psychology and just be focused on chemistry.
Although, I'm graduating this year and I'm STILL fairly uncertain what i'm going to major in so meh.
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Guilford
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia290 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-07 09:36:00
February 07 2009 09:29 GMT
#4
On February 07 2009 18:04 LosingID8 wrote:
you need to let us know what you are looking for in a university.

i'm talking about stuff like:
size of school
location (both location in the US, and urban vs suburban etc)
how much $$ you have available
etc

also, i'm not quite sure how international admissions works but i'm pretty sure it's a good idea to take the SAT.

also out of curiosity, where are you from?


Well, I am from Vietnam :D. My toefl ibt sure passes many requirements but I think I also lose many chances without the SAT. But I can do nothing more because this year I am really busy with paper to get extra credits for early graduation.

About location, I think I would prefer west coast because my relatives live there (Seattle). But I wouldn't mind to study in the east coast if the tuition fee there is lower. Urban or suburban is ok to me as long as there is good education.

I prefer universities where the total cost (housing, meal, tuition,...) is less than $33.000.

About school size, I don't think I care much about this but I think not too small is ok to me.

On February 07 2009 18:14 HeavOnEarth wrote:
It would be in your best interest to pick either biochem/ psychology / or medical ; because most universities have different programs and one college may not have... psychology and just be focused on chemistry.


yeah, I think I would choose either psychology or chemistry.




Thank you for replying :D

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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
February 07 2009 09:35 GMT
#5
ok if you're thinking about less than $33,000 unfortunately there aren't too many options.

i'm assuming you know the difference between public and private schools.

so with the vast majority of private schools they cost of attendance is $40,000+, so i guess those are out of the picture. of course, if you receive some sort of merit-based scholarship or something then you're good to go.

out of the public schools, the ones i can think of off-hand would be:
university of washington (very good choice)
western washington university
portland state university
university of oregon
oregon state university
various Cal States (CSU's)

UC's would obviously be a good option too, but their out-of-state tuition is really expensive. i think it is over $35,000 a year but you might want to check on that.
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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
February 07 2009 09:36 GMT
#6
someone more familiar with east coast schools might be able to help you out with that ^^
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Guilford
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia290 Posts
February 07 2009 09:47 GMT
#7
On February 07 2009 18:36 LosingID8 wrote:
someone more familiar with east coast schools might be able to help you out with that ^^


yeah,there still some time for me to make decision so I guess I just wait for some more info
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
February 07 2009 10:04 GMT
#8
How prevalent are need based scholarships at Public schools?

I'm so spoiled having gone to a place with basically fully need based aid
klizzer
Profile Joined March 2008
517 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-07 10:10:32
February 07 2009 10:07 GMT
#9
There are no need-based scholarships at Public schools for internationals afaik.

Although my friend haxxed and got one from UCSD, he went to a generous private one anyway.

Man, gl with your research. Good you're doing it now, don't put it to last minute like me. How do you measure your chances of getting a scholarship?

edit: @down: he'll have more time to study for SATs, obviously! (j/k)
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
February 07 2009 10:08 GMT
#10
why are you so eager to graduate early? high school can't be that horrible... find time to take the SAT, it opens a lot more options for you.
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Guilford
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia290 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-07 10:52:01
February 07 2009 10:45 GMT
#11
On February 07 2009 19:07 klizzer wrote:
There are no need-based scholarships at Public schools for internationals afaik.

Although my friend haxxed and got one from UCSD, he went to a generous private one anyway.

Man, gl with your research. Good you're doing it now, don't put it to last minute like me. How do you measure your chances of getting a scholarship?

edit: @down: he'll have more time to study for SATs, obviously! (j/k)


My chance for Portland State University might be 25%-30% or a little bit higher because last year my school got three scholarships for Portland State University. And well, I am sure that I can get a scholarship at Central Washington University because my high school and CWU are affiliate but there is not many good reviews about CWU.

On February 07 2009 19:08 caelym wrote:
why are you so eager to graduate early? high school can't be that horrible... find time to take the SAT, it opens a lot more options for you.


I know that but if I would only have like 0.5< English credits left to finish after this summer. I think 0.5 credits for the whole Fall quarter of next year is kind of like a waste of time. So I try to finish it this year with some projects. And well, my school is not really bad though but wasting money for one more quarter is not really a good idea for me.

In my country, we have to pay to study in high school. And my school tuition fee is unusually high.

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milkshake87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States26 Posts
February 07 2009 19:01 GMT
#12
There are so many universities but, as a foreigner, I would suggest attending a school near / in a major city. There are a lot of universities of all levels in isolated, desolate places; as long as you're studying in a new country, you should be close to a culturally dense area.

San Francisco Bay Area, Los Angeles, New York, Boston, Washington DC are examples, but there are many more.

Also, if you find yourself at a dead end regarding admission/acceptance into schools you want, consider looking into the community college system for an alternate route.
Hard work pays off in the future, laziness pays off now.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-07 21:46:25
February 07 2009 21:45 GMT
#13
On February 08 2009 04:01 milkshake87 wrote:
There are so many universities but, as a foreigner, I would suggest attending a school near / in a major city. There are a lot of universities of all levels in isolated, desolate places; as long as you're studying in a new country, you should be close to a culturally dense area.

San Francisco Bay Area, Los Angeles, New York, Boston, Washington DC are examples, but there are many more.

Also, if you find yourself at a dead end regarding admission/acceptance into schools you want, consider looking into the community college system for an alternate route.

i highly doubt that
with a 3.8 gpa ;o
however, community college IS a lot cheaper ( from what i've heard )

(to OP)Hey, I'm vietnamese too! xD
and sorry i don't really know many colleges for chem or psycology;
however i know lots of business/engineering and comp sci colleges o_o'
what field of chemistry are you thinking of? e-chem , o-chem, etc.
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Guilford
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia290 Posts
February 08 2009 04:15 GMT
#14
I think o-chem :D and well, I do have the option of going to Seattle Central Community College because it is cheaper.

Too bad that I am not really fond of business or comp sci. But anyways, nice to see another Vietnamese :D.

tbh, my GPA would be 4.0 if I didn't choose Chinese as a foreign language subject. The best I can get is B in Chinese -_- . Wish I had chosen French as foreign language.
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lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
February 09 2009 06:14 GMT
#15
You will need to take the SAT or ACT if you want to go to a decent university.

http://www.fairtest.org/university/optional

Here is a list of schools, however, that do not require the SATs.

Almost all state schools will require you have one, regardless - SAT's is what US universities are all about. it's how they weed out their candidates. i strongly suggest you take them.

If you have a 93 iBT score, you can do about... 1600-1700 SAT score (that's usually the correlation)

I work as a college consultant, so if you have any specific questions, feel free to PM me (I'm expensive though, watch out)
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Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
February 09 2009 06:21 GMT
#16
Meh, I found the ACT to be much easier
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Augury
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States758 Posts
February 09 2009 07:08 GMT
#17
Portland is a nice area if you don't mind the rain :D.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-09 07:48:29
February 09 2009 07:33 GMT
#18
I'm not sure about other states, but at the moment CA is going through some extremely serious budget problems. I think we are going to run out of money real fast if we don't get a proper budget + we're in huge debt. Thus, the UCs and the CSUs are going to get more expensive in the coming years. I've even heard of community colleges rejecting students...

However, as it stands, I'd suggest considering a private university if you want CA. Yes, I know privates tend to cost more, but they have much more money to give out as financial aid at the moment. I'm not saying don't consider UCs and stuff, neither am I saying privates won't be affected. Just don't block out all private universities simply because of the upfront cost.

Scholarships Scholarships Scholarships! Those will save your life!

I guess I'll give some suggestions like

University of Redlands - Southern CA - Inland (Hot summers, cool winters- generally dry)
University of San Diego (Not UCSD) (still might be too expensive)
University of San Francisco - Central/Northern CA - Bay Area (Cool everything, Colder winters)

And if you're looking for publics, try
San Jose State University (CSU)
Cal Poly (CSU) (Probably the best CSU - San Luis Obispo) - $27,000

I'd say I like Cal Poly, SJSU, and University of San Francisco the most.
University of Redlands can offer up to 25% scholarships to "high quality" international students

Edit: UCs like Berkeley, San Diego, and Irvine are definitely options though. You may have to take loans or something, but keep 'em open.

I would also recommend taking the SAT.
Not only does it increase chance of getting in, I'm pretty sure it opens up some scholarships if you get certain scores.
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Guilford
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia290 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-09 11:38:58
February 09 2009 11:16 GMT
#19
On February 09 2009 15:14 lilsusie wrote:
If you have a 93 iBT score, you can do about... 1600-1700 SAT score (that's usually the correlation)


My iBT score's break down is 28 in reading, 29 in listening, 15 in speaking (pretty bad score -_- ), 24 in writing so I don't know if that correlation is right for me though.

On February 09 2009 15:14 lilsusie wrote:
I work as a college consultant, so if you have any specific questions, feel free to PM me (I'm expensive though, watch out)


Thank you but I am too poor for that . I will consider that if it's free

On February 09 2009 16:08 Augury wrote:
Portland is a nice area if you don't mind the rain :D


The rain is ok for me because there is lot of rain in my country too :D

On February 09 2009 16:33 FragKrag wrote:
I'm not sure about other states, but at the moment CA is going through some extremely serious budget problems. I think we are going to run out of money real fast if we don't get a proper budget + we're in huge debt. Thus, the UCs and the CSUs are going to get more expensive in the coming years. I've even heard of community colleges rejecting students...

However, as it stands, I'd suggest considering a private university if you want CA. Yes, I know privates tend to cost more, but they have much more money to give out as financial aid at the moment. I'm not saying don't consider UCs and stuff, neither am I saying privates won't be affected. Just don't block out all private universities simply because of the upfront cost.

Scholarships Scholarships Scholarships! Those will save your life!

I guess I'll give some suggestions like

University of Redlands - Southern CA - Inland (Hot summers, cool winters- generally dry)
University of San Diego (Not UCSD) (still might be too expensive)
University of San Francisco - Central/Northern CA - Bay Area (Cool everything, Colder winters)

And if you're looking for publics, try
San Jose State University (CSU)
Cal Poly (CSU) (Probably the best CSU - San Luis Obispo) - $27,000

I'd say I like Cal Poly, SJSU, and University of San Francisco the most.
University of Redlands can offer up to 25% scholarships to "high quality" international students

Edit: UCs like Berkeley, San Diego, and Irvine are definitely options though. You may have to take loans or something, but keep 'em open.

I would also recommend taking the SAT.
Not only does it increase chance of getting in, I'm pretty sure it opens up some scholarships if you get certain scores.


I don't think that I will go to CA because my parents don't like me going to CA -_- . But thank for the info.
Yeah, I know that I should take ACT or SAT. Let see how much time I have left.
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lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
February 09 2009 14:13 GMT
#20
haha i was kidding about the expensive part! (should have learned that in the reading inference section of the toefl!!)

if you have any specific questions, just PM me, i'll answer as i have time ^^
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