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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
February 07 2009 00:10 GMT
#1
well i never really played iccup that much before but this week really felt like testing my abilities o _O

so started 2 days ago

just 10 minutes ago got to D+

there were some frustrating moments but i've learned things such as

a) be damn paranoid zvt cuz 80% of the time theres going to be bunker rush

b) zvp -> proxy 2 gate way - _-

c) i suck at defiler usage my macro went totally down hill when i was swarming everywhere and sending lings and lurkers in.. gotta practice more swarmmsszzzz

so far im' 13-10 :S

let's see how far i can go!

**
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
ilovehnk
Profile Joined October 2008
475 Posts
February 07 2009 00:11 GMT
#2
you will stuck at c- probably or c
Hikou Shinketsushuu
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
February 07 2009 00:12 GMT
#3
On February 07 2009 09:11 ilovehnk wrote:
you will stuck at c- probably or c


wtf is that supposed to mean!
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
February 07 2009 00:15 GMT
#4
it means that C-/C rankers are generally a good skill jump from D/D+
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
February 07 2009 00:16 GMT
#5
On February 07 2009 09:15 WindCalibur wrote:
it means that C-/C rankers are generally a good skill jump from D/D+


hm ok :S

sounds scary lol ><
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
February 07 2009 00:19 GMT
#6
whats your nick, wanna play sometimes ?
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
February 07 2009 00:20 GMT
#7
yeah I dont know why people call protoss the cheesy race. I've never been cheesed by anyone but a terran, and I play all match up's.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
February 07 2009 00:20 GMT
#8
On February 07 2009 09:19 besiger wrote:
whats your nick, wanna play sometimes ?


well im dlquddnr on west and iccup : )
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
ThE_OsToJiY
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada1167 Posts
February 07 2009 00:20 GMT
#9
13-10 @ D. You wont get past D+ sorry m8~
@ostojiy
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
February 07 2009 00:23 GMT
#10
On February 07 2009 09:20 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
13-10 @ D. You wont get past D+ sorry m8~

If he spams he might get ahead....just maintain a 50% winrate
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
February 07 2009 00:25 GMT
#11
On February 07 2009 09:20 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
13-10 @ D. You wont get past D+ sorry m8~


hey i might be able to improve! everyone is so pessimistic here lol

On February 07 2009 09:23 Racenilatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2009 09:20 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
13-10 @ D. You wont get past D+ sorry m8~

If he spams he might get ahead....just maintain a 50% winrate


yea or that.. hur hur
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
February 07 2009 00:26 GMT
#12
4 pool every game man. :D
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
February 07 2009 00:27 GMT
#13
What's strange is that I haven't gotten cheesed by a T or P yet(played 15 games and am almost c-)
I wonder if It's because I've mostly played koreans? IDK. Although one zerg tried 5 pooling me and got pwned pretty hard when my ovie scouted him first.
THE ANSWER IS 288
ThE_OsToJiY
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada1167 Posts
February 07 2009 00:36 GMT
#14
okok you can get olympic rank gogogo~~
@ostojiy
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
February 07 2009 00:39 GMT
#15
On February 07 2009 09:36 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
okok you can get olympic rank gogogo~~


OmGz KeWlz~ thAnkS SoO MuCh <3<3<3
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
February 07 2009 00:48 GMT
#16
Yea that ratio won't get you past D+

Try playing with the Koreans, you might not even make it out of D lol but its great practice
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
February 07 2009 00:49 GMT
#17
On February 07 2009 09:48 DanceCommander wrote:
Yea that ratio won't get you past D+

Try playing with the Koreans, you might not even make it out of D lol but its great practice




most of my games were vs koreans ~_~

some of them were really bad though
but a few of them i remember i got owned hard
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
February 07 2009 00:59 GMT
#18
On February 07 2009 09:48 DanceCommander wrote:
Yea that ratio won't get you past D+

Try playing with the Koreans, you might not even make it out of D lol but its great practice

yes that ratio will get u past D. I know C players who are like 75-75 >_>
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
February 07 2009 01:01 GMT
#19
i dont see why he wouldn't be able to get C-, you could go like 30-50 and probably still get C-, and C- people honestly arent that better than D+, not this late in the season.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
February 07 2009 01:02 GMT
#20
how do terrans even cheese? other than maybe a proxy rax/fact? but its a pretty bad strat in itself...
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
February 07 2009 01:03 GMT
#21
On February 07 2009 09:48 DanceCommander wrote:
Yea that ratio won't get you past D+

Try playing with the Koreans, you might not even make it out of D lol but its great practice


It's possible to get to at least B with under 50% winrate
No I'm never serious.
Aurious
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1772 Posts
February 07 2009 01:13 GMT
#22
you can easily get C- with a win ratio just over 50% keep it up.

I'm finally getting back in form after a while and have gone 31-15(3601) so i'll probably top at C+ if i'm lucky B-
Aurious
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1772 Posts
February 07 2009 01:14 GMT
#23
Also don't listen to all those pessimistic fucks like dance commander people with 40% win rates can get to B- B
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
February 07 2009 01:16 GMT
#24
But obviously your win rate will only drop as you climb ranks :D
No I'm never serious.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
February 07 2009 01:27 GMT
#25
if you lost because you're not used to the cheese fest that is iccup then meh u have a while to go before u get stuck
if you lost because of straight up macro, you probably won't get past D+/C-
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
February 07 2009 01:41 GMT
#26
On February 07 2009 09:23 Racenilatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2009 09:20 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
13-10 @ D. You wont get past D+ sorry m8~

If he spams he might get ahead....just maintain a 50% winrate

If he can barely maintain 50% vs D players, doing the same vs D+ and C- players is basically impossible, barring a massive improvement in skill. It took me a few months to go from 50% D to solid D+, and I'm just now making the transition to C-.
more weight
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
February 07 2009 01:47 GMT
#27
hmm ok
alphafuzard most useful post so far i think xd and heavonearth lol

:S
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
February 07 2009 02:02 GMT
#28
iccup has become a lottery recently

theres some really bad 2900 rating ppl then some really good 1400 ppl...
bisu fanboy
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
February 07 2009 03:28 GMT
#29
On February 07 2009 09:26 deathgod6 wrote:
4 pool every game man. :D


The reason iccup is filled with cheesing fags
jaedong forever~
dragonmax
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States131 Posts
February 07 2009 03:32 GMT
#30
a 50% win rate will get you up to b at least
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
February 07 2009 03:34 GMT
#31
On February 07 2009 09:10 alffla wrote:a) be damn paranoid zvt cuz 80% of the time theres going to be bunker rush


I feel you. I offrace zerg often (just finally got to D+ on the offrace woot), and 80% is definitely an accurate amount. The number of times I've been bunker rushed is unreal... really gives me an appreciation for how amazing savior's drones are at holding off a bunker rush.
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
February 07 2009 03:52 GMT
#32
On February 07 2009 12:34 -orb- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2009 09:10 alffla wrote:a) be damn paranoid zvt cuz 80% of the time theres going to be bunker rush


I feel you. I offrace zerg often (just finally got to D+ on the offrace woot), and 80% is definitely an accurate amount. The number of times I've been bunker rushed is unreal... really gives me an appreciation for how amazing savior's drones are at holding off a bunker rush.

a lot of z's are going pool first to counter bunker rush
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 07 2009 03:58 GMT
#33
Anyone who says you can get farther ranks just by massgaming is right.

http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/sal.pokebunny.html

65-102 C- yo.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42692 Posts
February 07 2009 04:01 GMT
#34
On February 07 2009 10:02 Metal[x] wrote:
how do terrans even cheese? other than maybe a proxy rax/fact? but its a pretty bad strat in itself...

Picking terran is cheese.
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b3h47pte
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1317 Posts
February 07 2009 06:09 GMT
#35
On February 07 2009 12:58 Pokebunny wrote:
Anyone who says you can get farther ranks just by massgaming is right.

http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/sal.pokebunny.html

65-102 C- yo.


i wish i had that kind of time to play that many games :|
Aurious
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1772 Posts
February 07 2009 07:03 GMT
#36
it's not that much time assuming every game lasts 15 minutes approx
65+102=167*15=2505 minutes
1 day=1440 minutes*2=2880 minutes

so he has spent less than 2 days of actual play time over the course of what 2/2.5 months? not that much at all
LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-07 07:30:25
February 07 2009 07:14 GMT
#37
You could certainly improve with practice, but if you are 13-10, you shouldn't expect to get past D+. I think i started the season 7-0 or 9-0 but now im below 50% and barely C+.

On a side note, does anyone think this season feels even more competitive than past ones? I reached C+ much earlier in the past 3 seasons.

Because so many people cheese, i've been going 12 pool speedlings in a lot of my ZvP and ZvT games. (depending on the map) Most tosses are bad at stopping run-bys and it also counters 2 gate well. 1 gate tech is a pretty good counter, but that's the rarest toss build, and if scouted, i can cancel speed and stop building lings. ZvT it's great vs rushes, and FE below their ramp. Against 2 rax or 1 rax FE, its not so good unless the terran doesn't keep a good ramp block. The only strong terran counter is a wall in, and you can often predict which maps that happens on. (destination, colosseum) If they go fast vults without walling, speedlings are faster than slow vults, and they probably only have a couple marines.
Pioneer
Profile Joined December 2008
994 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-07 08:28:37
February 07 2009 08:28 GMT
#38
I just hit B- myself ^^. But big day for me ^^. Congrats on D+
Odeur
Profile Joined October 2008
Taiwan58 Posts
February 07 2009 10:25 GMT
#39
On February 07 2009 09:20 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2009 09:19 besiger wrote:
whats your nick, wanna play sometimes ?


well im dlquddnr on west and iccup : )


lol for a sec i thought i played against you before
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
February 07 2009 14:43 GMT
#40
The difference between current D/D+ players and what you get in the first month of a season is HUGE. I'm a C- Terran, and I'm 10-0 right now. I have an account that I played in the first weeks of the season, I got to D+ with a 18-19 record, or smth like that
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-07 14:46:22
February 07 2009 14:45 GMT
#41
On February 07 2009 13:01 Kwark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2009 10:02 Metal[x] wrote:
how do terrans even cheese? other than maybe a proxy rax/fact? but its a pretty bad strat in itself...

Picking terran is cheese.



But at least it's not having hack-like advantage
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
February 07 2009 14:54 GMT
#42
But I guess it depends on what time of the day u play
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
February 07 2009 15:37 GMT
#43
Don't listen to people being downers telling you how far you're capable of getting. Going 13-10 would probably be "estimated" at D+/C- rank, but if you're a bit rusty and new to iccup that might play a part too. gl
shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
February 07 2009 20:23 GMT
#44
fck iccup, everytime i sign on i just get raped fck that fck it
fonger
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United Kingdom1218 Posts
February 07 2009 23:05 GMT
#45
On February 07 2009 13:01 Kwark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2009 10:02 Metal[x] wrote:
how do terrans even cheese? other than maybe a proxy rax/fact? but its a pretty bad strat in itself...

Picking terran is cheese.

Agreed. If you get scouted, you lose.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
February 08 2009 00:16 GMT
#46
On February 08 2009 08:05 fonger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2009 13:01 Kwark wrote:
On February 07 2009 10:02 Metal[x] wrote:
how do terrans even cheese? other than maybe a proxy rax/fact? but its a pretty bad strat in itself...

Picking terran is like saying HEY CHEESE ME.

Agreed. If you get scouted, you lose.

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