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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
I noticed my current 'targets' list for progaming photo shoots was somewhat hidden beneath another pile of information on a post so I decided to do a separate post for it.
*** Current Player Photo Request List ***
July.
Iloveoov.
Boxer.
Baby.
Best.
Fantasy.
All the other recent requests have been filled. However, this isn't quite the point of this post.
Explanation:
Recently I've been working on expanding my creativity during shoots - until I can upgrade my camera in about 3-4 months I'm making the most of this season as a 'practice run' and gaining more experience doing practical esports photography.
I love to plan ahead, but I rarely stick to these plans so I wanted to ask for the following:
~ Solid concepts for future shoots and who you think would suit them.
Recent concepts I've used have included:
+ Use of props: aka. Horang2 shoot with keyboard.
+ Use of techniques: aka. CJ framed film style BWs.
How to Help:
The basic idea is: (you can use this format if you'd like to help me out and I really do appreciate it!)
Player: (ID or Korean name in hangul or English.)
Team:
Concept: (Feel free to go into detail or just give me a prop/word/idea/theme to work with.)
Mode: (Only if you'd like the shoot in B/W, sepia or otherwise edited.)
I'm also definitely willing to let people request photos for making into their own graphics or cheerfuls which I can deliver to players or teams upon request. (I've also delivered presents for KTF members for Scaramanga recently and did a small photo shoot with Flash and Sair receiving them.)
Here is Chalrenge with a cheerful designed for him earlier this year by Pachi.
Postscript:
I have nothing to add so here is a random photo of Leta:
Thanks for any help!
Concept Request List:
+ Show Spoiler +Concept Request List.
Concept Request List:
Player: July
Concept: Something that shows his aggressiveness. Or maybe July with food xD!
Requested by: Carnivorous Sheep
Player: (ID or Korean name in hangul or English.) : SaSin)Horang2 이경민
Team: 온개임냇 스파키즈 OnGameNet SPARKYZ
Concept: HORANG2 + FROSTED FLAKES BOX (he got his name from them)
Mode: FOCUS ON HOW AWESOME FROSTED FLAKES ARE
Requested by: GTR-2-go
Player: Boxer
Requested by: Zoler
Player: maGma
Team: eSTRO
Concept: Get some acorns and write 6 dragon names on (different ones) and then show it to maGma and then ask him to crush them with feet (or hand if enough power)
Mode: focus on crushing, perhaps face emotions.
Requested by: Too_MuchZerg
Player: Jaedong
Team: Hwaseung Oz (did I spell that right?)
Concept: Shirtless, flexing muscles.
Requested by: CDRdude and 90% of the girls in Korea.
Player: UpMagiC
Team: eSTRO
Concept: Get him to do some sweet magic trick like that fire one
Requested by: Whatusername
Player: Yellow[ArnC] (or Sparkyz MS) 박명수
Team: Ongamenet Sparkyz 온게임넷 스파키즈
Concept: so! Cute concept. ex) wink or make a shape of heart with his finger make a cute face
or..with closed his eyes and lips like a kiss pose(umm...pout out the lips)
I love his cute face, cute smile. So I like all pictures with cute concept!
Requested by: Daydreamtic
Player : KTF Practice 박찬수 / Hwaseung Oz Jaedong 이제동
Team : KTF magicns / Hwaseung Oz
Sexy,manful concept !
ex) Looking behind Camera or stick out his tongue with sexy the glitter of his eyes
or a point up his narrow jaw line and point up his uvula (umm,,,I think that uvula is very manful
part)
Requested by: Daydreamtic
Player: 진영수/Hwasin
Team: STX
Concepts: Idea 1: Perhaps him holding an imaginary rifle, pretending to be "sniping" something
Idea 2: Wearing sunglasses
Requested by: Piko
Player: Savior / Ma Jae Yoon / 마재윤
Team: CJ Entus
Concepts
1.- I want to make a vector/photography cheerful based image. I want to mix vectors, with a real photo of him, and possibly make a vector of his face too. If possible I want the picture of him to be happy, I want him to smile, and to look as happy as he can.
Requested by: funkie
Player: MVP[Name] / Jeong Jong Hyeon / 정종현
Team: Woongjin Stars / 웅진 스타즈
Concept:
1. I'd love to see him looking very "serious." Think Starleague opening "serious" with cool poses (arms crossed, looking over shoulder, etc.) and -_- faces. Make him seem like the next bonjwa.
2. Or if that's not possible (somehow), I want to see him smiling and looking extremely cheerful. Maybe get him to pose with some cute stuffed animal.
Requested by: Realpenguin
Player: Bisu
Team: SKT1
Concept: Get him a knife . Ninja-fy him :D
Requested by: DreaM)XeRO
 
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Baa?21242 Posts
I love your photo shoots, keep up the good work!
Player: July
Concept: Something that shows his aggressiveness. Or maybe July with food xD!
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51425 Posts
HORANG2 WITH A BOX OF FROSTED FLAKES
PLZ PLZ PLZ
fine;
Player: (ID or Korean name in hangul or English.) : SaSin)Horang2 이경민
Team: 온개임냇 스파키즈 OnGameNet SPARKYZ
Concept: HORANG2 + FROSTED FLAKES BOX (he got his name from them)
Mode: FOCUS ON HOW AWESOME FROSTED FLAKES ARE
edit: find the box of frosted flakes yourself, i will repay in some sort of favor
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That pachi kid is a scrub, just thought I'd let everyone know what I think about him.
Sup pachi. Sup Nevergg keep it juicy
5/1 rating. Yeah.
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On February 05 2009 14:40 GTR-2-Go wrote:
HORANG2 WITH A BOX OF FROSTED FLAKES
PLZ PLZ PLZ
fine;
Player: (ID or Korean name in hangul or English.) : SaSin)Horang2 이경민
Team: 온개임셋 스파키즈 OnGameNet SPARKYZ
Concept: HORANG2 + FROSTED FLAKES BOX (he got his name from them)
Mode: FOCUS ON HOW AWESOME FROSTED FLAKES ARE
For you GTR, anything. Consider it done. IF I can keep the kid from giggling for more than five minutes <3
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chalrenge is the hottest progamer of all time hands down
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Player: maGma
Team: eSTRO
Concept: Get some acorns and write 6 dragon names on (different ones) and then show it to maGma and then ask him to crush them with feet (or hand if enough power)
Mode: focus on crushing, perhaps face emotions.
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Player: Jaedong
Team: Hwaseung Oz (did I spell that right?)
Concept: Shirtless, flexing muscles.
+ Show Spoiler +It would be awesome if you actually did this
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Boxer in old uniforms would be cool.
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On February 05 2009 15:32 Dromar wrote:
Boxer in old uniforms would be cool.
+9001
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
does that little challrenge card say balleR?
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I want to see a picture of the 4 foot tall Backho next to the 10 foot tall Goojilla.
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United States2186 Posts
I don't really know much about what to suggest (I mean it'd be hilarious to see iloveoov in a gorilla suit but I doubt this would be practical..), but I just wanted to say that I love your photos and really respect the effort that you put into improving them.
Keep up the great work!
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On February 05 2009 15:23 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Player: maGma
Team: eSTRO
Concept: Get some acorns and write 6 dragon names on (different ones) and then show it to maGma and then ask him to crush them with feet (or hand if enough power)
Mode: focus on crushing, perhaps face emotions.
I have to find some acorns first, but thank you for the idea - I really do need to make a point of using some of the things gamers *say* at events in the photo shoots.
@zoler: He is top of my list - I've just not been at a winning T1 PL since he came back full time. I will get him soon hopefully!
@Rekrul: Yes, yes it does.
@Fontong: We've joked about this before - it'd be epic, but until Chanwoong is healed he's not an option sadly.
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Player: UpMagiC
Team: eSTRO
Concept: Get him to do some sweet magic trick like that fire one
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Flash
Bisu
Stork pls 
I guess maybe try to get them while they are playing? Intense moments of the game :O
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On February 05 2009 20:18 Racenilatr wrote:Flash Bisu Stork pls I guess maybe try to get them while they are playing? Intense moments of the game :O
I've already done shoots with all three (although that doesn't mean I won't again.) What I'm looking for here is solid concepts (words/ideas etc.) The problem with photographing them whilst they're playing is you can only do booth shots from a limited amount of angles due to the main cameras - the lighting inside the booths is very diffused and also fomos/fifo both do so many booth shots I've stopped doing them myself - it's just not creative if other people are doing it ^^;
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Player: Yellow[ArnC] (or Sparkyz MS) 박명수
Team: Ongamenet Sparkyz 온게임넷 스파키즈
Concept: so! Cute concept. ex) wink or make a shape of heart with his finger make a cute face
or..with closed his eyes and lips like a kiss pose(umm...pout out the lips)
I love his cute face, cute smile. So I like all pictures with cute concept!
Sorry... I am not good at english T_T
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Player: Bisu
Team: SKT T1
Concept: Smiling and holding a sign "I love my disciples"
nvm my request , keep your amazing work coming, photos of all players are welcome
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Player : KTF Practice 박찬수 / Hwaseung Oz Jaedong 이제동
Team : KTF magicns / Hwaseung Oz
Sexy,manful concept !
ex) Looking behind Camera or stick out his tongue with sexy the glitter of his eyes
or a point up his narrow jaw line and point up his uvula (umm,,,I think that uvula is very manful
part)
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Player: 진영수/Hwasin
Team: STX
Concepts: Idea 1: Perhaps him holding an imaginary rifle, pretending to be "sniping" something
Idea 2: Wearing sunglasses
P.S. your photos are awesome; thanks so much for sharing them :D
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On February 05 2009 14:40 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Concept: HORANG2 + FROSTED FLAKES BOX (he got his name from them)
Whoa for real?! Where'd you learn that?
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On February 06 2009 07:10 chameleonia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2009 14:40 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Concept: HORANG2 + FROSTED FLAKES BOX (he got his name from them) Whoa for real?! Where'd you learn that?
He was recently interviewed by fomos about it and many other interesting things - you can find it in the latest Korean news flash on TL ^^ I will challenge you for the title of his number 1 fan! - that kid is like my new muse (along with Tazza.) He's a joy to work with - so expressive, polite and photographs wonderfully.
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horang2 translated in chinese is something along the lines of "Reckless wolf"
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Player: Savior / Ma Jae Yoon / 마재윤
Team: CJ Entus
Concepts
1.- I want to make a vector/photography cheerful based image. I want to mix vectors, with a real photo of him, and possibly make a vector of his face too. If possible I want the picture of him to be happy, I want him to smile, and to look as happy as he can.
That's about it. Thanks. (If you can provide the raw to me, that'd be even nicer  )
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Charlenge holding a card that reads BALLER!!!
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Player: MVP[Name] / Jeong Jong Hyeon / 정종현
Team: Woongjin Stars / 웅진 스타즈
Concept:
1. I'd love to see him looking very "serious." Think Starleague opening "serious" with cool poses (arms crossed, looking over shoulder, etc.) and -_- faces. Make him seem like the next bonjwa.
2. Or if that's not possible (somehow), I want to see him smiling and looking extremely cheerful. Maybe get him to pose with some cute stuffed animal.
(and like funkie, it would be cool if you could provide the raw/vector images so I could try my hand at making a cheerful)
I love your work, and I also love that you're taking requests now.
Good luck!
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Player: Bisu
Team SKT1
get him a knife . Ninja-fy him :D
<3
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Players: Bunkie and whatever the KTF mascot's name is
Team: SKT1 and KTF
Concept: Each wearing the other's head and looking at each other, surprised.
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Calgary25978 Posts
Just voicing my opinion.
I don't like when you typically do concept and prop shots, because you usually make the players do really creepy / awkward things that I guess are supposed to look cute but often don't.
My favourite are the candid shots or standard ones where they do normal poses. I really like both of these styles a lot.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On February 08 2009 22:47 miseiler wrote:
Players: Bunkie and whatever the KTF mascot's name is
Team: SKT1 and KTF
Concept: Each wearing the other's head and looking at each other, surprised.
OMFG THIS IS A MUST.
OMFGG
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Player: Doctor.K 권오혁
Team: SK Telecom 1
Concept: Wearing a stethoscope, or holding a syringe/scalpel. About to perform "surgery" on his opponents.
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On February 09 2009 01:19 Chill wrote:
Just voicing my opinion.
I don't like when you typically do concept and prop shots, because you usually make the players do really creepy / awkward things that I guess are supposed to look cute but often don't.
My favourite are the candid shots or standard ones where they do normal poses. I really like both of these styles a lot.
Creepy? Wow....that's really, really harsh. How about when Fomos makes them wear bear hats or when CJ posed using heart cushions. Jesus....it's comments like this that make me want to stop altogether.
Would you prefer a load of those fist closed poses like fomos does every single day (almost?) What do you consider a 'normal' pose? Because without the use of props/something different or experimental there is a limit to what you can do with one gamer and no concept/idea/new pose.
I suppose the gamers probably think it's 'creepy' too - so I will just stop taking photos altogether if experimentation and trying out new styles that may or may not work is considered a bad thing.
Creepy....you really just put me off going today. I'm actually really upset you called me creepy just for trying out new things....wow. Thanks Chill - that just bashed my confidence into the ground.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On February 09 2009 07:56 NeverGG wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2009 01:19 Chill wrote:
Just voicing my opinion.
I don't like when you typically do concept and prop shots, because you usually make the players do really creepy / awkward things that I guess are supposed to look cute but often don't.
My favourite are the candid shots or standard ones where they do normal poses. I really like both of these styles a lot. Creepy? Wow....that's really, really harsh. How about when Fomos makes them wear bear hats or when CJ posed using heart cushions. Jesus....it's comments like this that make me want to stop altogether. Would you prefer a load of those fist closed poses like fomos does every single day (almost?) What do you consider a 'normal' pose? Because without the use of props/something different or experimental there is a limit to what you can do with one gamer and no concept/idea/new pose. I suppose the gamers probably think it's 'creepy' too - so I will just stop taking photos altogether if experimentation and trying out new styles that may or may not work is considered a bad thing. Creepy....you really just put me off going today. I'm actually really upset you called me creepy just for trying out new things....wow. Thanks Chill - that just bashed my confidence into the ground.
Somebody's on the rag.....
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
creepy people generally let their moods get altered negatively by constructive criticism on the internet from someone they don't know
o wait
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jesus, calm down. he's just voicing an opinion. and stop acting like such a victim.
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I don't think Chill meant it that way. Everyone loves your photos, I think he's just trying to say that the poses/props don't always look natural.
I don't think anyone would disagree that the fist/thumbs down is getting tired though. Just relax, you do a great job.
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On February 09 2009 08:45 H wrote:
jesus, calm down. he's just voicing an opinion. and stop acting like such a victim.
@rekrul - this has nothing to do with you and it wasn't constructive.
@H - I'm not acting like a victim - it genuinely hurt my feelings to be called creepy. I'm trying my best here to be different from fomos/fifo.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On February 09 2009 09:12 NeverGG wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2009 08:45 H wrote:
jesus, calm down. he's just voicing an opinion. and stop acting like such a victim. @rekrul - this has nothing to do with you and it wasn't constructive. @H - I'm not acting like a victim - it genuinely hurt my feelings to be called creepy. I'm trying my best here to be different from fomos/fifo.
this is my website everything here has to do with me
it was constructive; he was letting you know that making progamers do things that aren't natural and stuntish to them don't result in the best photos. he likes it better when you take more professional, natural, clean photos. i personally don't give a fuck and it's fun to mess with those guys so i don't agree with him but i see where he's coming from.
why get defensive when someone calls you creepy anyways? who gives a shit. if you know you're not creepy then just label him a moron and move on with ur life, nothing to worry about.
i mean come on lets be honest, lone white girl running around all the progaming events taking pictures of nerdlings playing computergames amongst seas of koreans...that is pretty creepy....
j/k!
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Australia4514 Posts
NeverGG don't let anyone bring you down like that. You are an amazing photographer. Your shots of progamers and from Seoul are very unique and you can almost feel the emotion of the moment when you look at them. I don't know how you do it, but you do.
The first time I saw your photos were from the streets of Seoul of the trinkets and foods available on the street. The intensity of those photos made me reminisce about my times in Korea and how great they were. Definitely brightened my day.
The fact that you are a lone white woman in Seoul attending all these events only shows bravery. Trust me I know how annoying and intimidating it can be to be in a very populated area in Seoul (especially those progamer events) being white. You get non stop stares and while I personally love the stares I can equally see how it can be very annoying to a girl and/or someone whos there trying to do a job professionally. Props to you for not only taking the time to attend all these events but moreso props to you for putting up with all that crap just to deliver mostly un-grateful people these wonderful pictures.
What Chill said was merely a wrong choice of words. He wasn't calling you creepy by any means. He was just suggesting that making progamers do things that they otherwise wouldn't specifically want to do in funny/weird/gay poses isn't his idea of a good shot. What he wants is professional shots of progamers naturally in action; whether it be on stage, or after a game in happyness or sadness, or with their friends. Chill was trying to give you a little bit of constructive critisim as Rekrul stated but I guess he didn't say it as nicely as he could have. Trust me Chill meant no harm and he also does a lot of great stuff for our community as you do. I'm sure he appreciates your photos just as much as I do.
And even if he was being mean to you (which he wasn't), fuck him, fuck the hataz! Don't let anyone that doubts you stop you from doing your amazing work. For every person out there voicing their negative opinions about such great work there are hundreds who love it and enjoy it but just don't bother telling you about it because they are too lazy. This is the internet afterall :D
Cheer up, and keep doing the great work you do.
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Kerry, you KNOW everyone here enjoys your pictures, you bring a lot more to the table than the typical Fomos ones. Most of the time the players don't care what you ask them to do, they just do it. That already shows that THEY don't find it creepy, in fact, I'm sure they have fun having these shoots with you.
Don't take what you read on these forums to heart - for every "negative" or "criticizing" comment that's posted, there are at least 5-10 positive ones that haven't been posted. Chill is definitely not one to be a hater, like Legionnaire said, I think he just worded it wrong. Or maybe Chill just likes boring pictures cuz he's a boring guy, who knows?
@dan
be nice.
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Calgary25978 Posts
wtf i didnt call you creepy i called your pictures creepy
and some of them genuinely are creepy in my eyes! if you like that style and dont find them creepy, fantastic! im just saying what i think.
i like all your other stuff i dont know why this bashed your confidence.
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Calgary25978 Posts
I call normal things that look normal.
Jaedong standing with a fist = normal
Two young kids making a heart shape with their arms = creepy
Thats just what I think.
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On February 09 2009 10:49 Chill wrote:
I call normal things that look normal.
Jaedong standing with a fist = normal
Two young kids making a heart shape with their arms = creepy
Thats just what I think.
I'm a little more awake and calm by now so I thought I'd attempt to explain myself and what I'm trying to do - as well as why I don't enjoy having my work labeled as creepy:
Just for the record Slashimage did that heart pose with Myungsoo/Chansoo long before I did it with Frozean/FBH - neither of whom I'd call kids. Jaedong standing with a fist is normal - but it's something fomos does *all the time* which for me makes it boring and repetative. Therefore I've been trying to do things that aren't inside the comfort zone of typical gamer photos.
I'm sorry if you think it is creepy, but I'm just trying out different styles of photo - if I did fist poses every time like fomos does not only would it make it pointless me even going because I'd be providing the same photos as people with superior cameras it'd also mean people would get bored of my work quickly.
The way you phrased it implies that you believe I'm creepy for taking photos like that - so next time you have some constructive crit please think about giving me examples so I can improve my work instead of just calling my work 'creepy' and asking for 'normal' and 'standard' poses - that covers a (small) range of poses none of which I really want to repeat.
@legionnaire - thank you for the comments. I often let crit get to me and I'm trying to toughen up, but it is difficult given that I do get treated quite badly by certain groups of fangirls simply for being there (I've never spoken to these girls or gotten in their way otherwise.) and I cannot really connect with the fans at the events because we don't speak the same language. I am also often singled out for being filmed along with people who have just turned up for the day and as someone who has been working hard on bringing photos to everyone for almost a year now it is a bit frustrating to have my nationality *still* being such a big issue with some people.
@lilsusie - I like to think they enjoy the shoots too - I only really do more unusual shoots with players I have been working with for a long time such as OGN Sparkyz players like Changhee and Sangmoon or newer players who seem disposed towards more daring shots such as Jaegeol or Kyungmin. I wouldn't force a player to do something they were obviously uncomfortable with and as people have seen on the video of me shooting at OSL eventhough I am business like and a bit brisk at times due to constraints on schedules I still make sure to chat to the gamers and be polite. (I'm also on hand to rescue them when things get slightly crazy.)
I apologise for the tone of some of the photos, but a percentage of my work is also for the Korean communities. I have recently found out my photos are not only going onto some gamers' cyworlds (mainly those of eSTRO and the former eSTRO CS team.) but they're also being used at KTF's daum cafes (I found out via an English speaking Korean fan who found my work here apparently.)
Therefore, I'm working to two audiences - younger girl fans who enjoy cuter poses and also the male majority here who prefer more serious shoots on the whole. If you check my newest work (especially the latest OGN shoots.) there is a clear division between the two styles used in an attempt to please as many fans as possible whilst providing a varied range of ideas/angles and moods.
Next time something like this happens I will take it on the chin and just ask for some examples in an attempt to improve the quality of my work on the run up to upgrading my camera.
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Calgary25978 Posts
you usually make the players do really creepy / awkward things
There is no way to interpet that as "you are creepy", but I'm sorry I said anything nonetheless. Keep up the good work as everyone loves your pictures.
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On February 09 2009 12:03 Chill wrote:There is no way to interpet that as "you are creepy", but I'm sorry I said anything nonetheless. Keep up the good work as everyone loves your pictures.
^^; There is if you lack confidence as much as I do. Anyway, we'll see what I can do in the future and hopefully it will please as many people as possible.
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I like your pictures ( i really loled at your last pictures of Leta ).
No need to apologise -.-
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3861 Posts
YOU ARE CREEPY! YOU LEFT CARROTS IN MY FRIDGE WHO DOES THAT?!
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Calgary25978 Posts
Inappropriate, Kitten. Inappropriate.
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Australia4514 Posts
Creepers rule the world anyways, I mean look at PeurtoRican for fuck sakes he's large and in charge at SCForAll.com
-rekrul
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Player: tazza /조재걸
Team: Ongamenet Sparkyz
Concept: Since tazza in Korean means Korean Poker(?) Player,
Tazza + Korean Poker Cards!! XD /the cards are called hwatoo!
Just if taking shoots with the cards aren't an issue, meh
PS. Your pictures are great, I love it how they capture the feeling the players are radiating(?) XD
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