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rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 08:47:40
February 04 2009 05:05 GMT
#1


IntoTheRainBOw fan~
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
February 04 2009 05:09 GMT
#2
Seems ok, but why go AMD instead of Intel?
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 08:47:47
February 04 2009 05:12 GMT
#3
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
February 04 2009 05:22 GMT
#4
yeah, at that price point AMD is competitive. The problem for them is they have nothing at all at higher price points D: We need some competition in the CPU arena to keep Intel from cranking out another netburst or something
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-04 05:26:06
February 04 2009 05:22 GMT
#5
On February 04 2009 14:12 rushz0rz wrote:
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On February 04 2009 14:09 Fontong wrote:
Seems ok, but why go AMD instead of Intel?


I looked up benchmarks and pricing, and from what I found the Phenom 9550 series did better than the E8400 and E8500 and was cheaper. Is that wrong?

the phenom is definitely worse than the e8x00 for gaming. if you aren't going to do much gaming it wont really matter

of course you could drop an extra $30 on the processor and get a phenom ii !!
though if you could drop another $30 i would still get the e8400 and upgrade to 4850
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 08:47:59
February 04 2009 05:25 GMT
#6
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-04 05:29:14
February 04 2009 05:27 GMT
#7
the only difference between the e8400 and e8500 is the multiplier this doesnt really matter too much. as a result the e8500 is .1ghz faster or something. save the $20 or put it toward a better graphics card instead.

are you building this yourself or customizing it?
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-04 05:32:04
February 04 2009 05:29 GMT
#8
Ah ok, I was thinking that the phenom 9550 was more expensive that it actually is. I was wondering why you would get it over something like the Q6600.

What is the price on the processor you are buying? I'm having trouble getting anything on google.

Edit: but yeah as mahnini says graphics card matters more than CPU for gaming. imo it is better to get a quad core at this point though in order to be more 'future proof'
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
February 04 2009 05:31 GMT
#9
q6600 has low clock speed and this affects it in games, it also has the old 65nm architecture, though i guess that doesn't matter unless power usage or overclocking matters to you. besides i think the new phenom ii 920 are actually cheaper than the q6600 on newegg and actually perform a lot better.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 08:48:11
February 04 2009 05:32 GMT
#10
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-04 05:34:46
February 04 2009 05:33 GMT
#11
^^ack premade computers just kill you in terms of price. My computer is slightly better than the second one for about 700$(i made it custom)

On February 04 2009 14:31 mahnini wrote:
q6600 has low clock speed and this affects it in games, it also has the old 65nm architecture, though i guess that doesn't matter unless power usage or overclocking matters to you. besides i think the new phenom ii 920 are actually cheaper than the q6600 on newegg and actually perform a lot better.

but the Q6600 overclocks to 3.0ghz on air with a decent fan, this is one of the reasons I think it is pretty good.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 08:48:19
February 04 2009 05:35 GMT
#12
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
February 04 2009 05:38 GMT
#13
Do you have the ability to build the computer yourself? You will save a bundle.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 08:48:28
February 04 2009 05:39 GMT
#14
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 08:48:36
February 04 2009 05:40 GMT
#15
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
February 04 2009 05:44 GMT
#16
On February 04 2009 14:40 rushz0rz wrote:
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On February 04 2009 14:38 Fontong wrote:
Do you have the ability to build the computer yourself? You will save a bundle.


Hmmm. I did put my current PC together myself, although I'm sure the $50 assembly is worth it because it's done professionally and what if I screwed up? I'd also be excited about getting on it asaply and playing around, of course.

After a quick look at the parts for those computers could could probably make them for under $800, Imo that amount of savings is worth it. I would just look up some guides on the internet for things you are uncertain of how to do.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 08:48:49
February 04 2009 05:47 GMT
#17
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
February 04 2009 05:48 GMT
#18
if i were in your position i would definitely go for the phenom ii 920 because high end gaming doesnt matter too much to me. however, none of these quads can really compare to the e8x00 series stock in terms of fps for gaming but it's really up to you. the e8400 has the potential to be outdated a lot faster once more games utilize 4 cores but as of right now i think it's your best bet.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/Crysis-1680x1050,818.html
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 08:49:16
February 04 2009 05:51 GMT
#19
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
February 04 2009 05:52 GMT
#20
yeah i dont think sc2 will. also if you're building it yourself 1.3k is core i7 territory, hehehehehehe.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
February 04 2009 06:08 GMT
#21
Tip: when ordering parts make sure that you have enough power splitters.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
February 04 2009 07:43 GMT
#22
Yeah, I'd definitely build it on your own... Vista/Office will cost a bit more, but given how much you're looking at spending you'll do way better.

If you want to go AMD, I'd definitely get a Phenom II.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-04 15:47:19
February 04 2009 15:45 GMT
#23
This is what parts i ordered for my PC 1 year ago :

Antec 900 Case
Intel e8400 Cpu
Nvidia 8800 GTS 512(outdated now, nowadays i'd go 4850)
Gigabyte DS3L LGA 775 Motherboard
Corsair HX650 Powersupply
WD Raptor 160 Gb 10k RPM OS drive(Nowadays there's velociraptor and SSDs)
Seagate 500 GB 7200.11 storage drive(had no problems with it, have updated to newest firmware)
TRUE 120 heatsink with a Scythe 1600 RPM fan.(not really necessary, stock will work fine)

Basically wanted a lower high end machine that could run most new titles at an acceptable framerate with decent quality settings.

Self built it costed me 11000 NOK(1600 USD). In europe prices are way higher than US though.

From the above build the only thing that are really outdated is the graphics card. Everything else should work fine. Be aware that Seagate 7200.11 had a firmware bug that caused bricking, but it has been fixed now.

"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-04 20:59:10
February 04 2009 20:39 GMT
#24
On February 04 2009 14:32 rushz0rz wrote:
OK. How's this?

1 x Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Dual Core Processor LGA775 3.0GHZ Wolfdale 1333FSB 6MB Retail
1 x ASUS P5Q Pro ATX LGA775 P45 DDR2 2PCI-E16 CrossFire 3PCI-E1 2PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN eSATA Motherboard
1 x Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X4096-6400C5 4GB DDR2 2X2GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL 5-5-5-18 240PIN Me *IR-$15.00*
1 x Radeon HD 4850 OEM 625MHZ 512MB GDDR3 1.986GHZ PCI-E Dual DVI-I *Systems Only - 1YR NCIX Warranty*
1 x Antec Nine Hundred Mid Tower Gamer Case 900 ATX 9 Drive Bay No PS Top USB2.0 1394 Audio
1 x Corsair TX650W 650W ATX 12V 52A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan
1 x Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM
1 x Microsoft Office Ready 2007 SP1 60 Day Trial - Free with New NCIX or Nx Fusion PC Purchase
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 3.5IN 500GB SATA2 8.5MS 7200RPM 32MB Cache NCQ Hard Drive
1 x Samsung SH-S223F/BEBN 22X Speedplus DVD+-RW SATA DVD Writer OEM
1 x Logitech Classic Keyboard 200 Spill Resistant USB Black Keyboard

Price: $1359

The price of the first comp is: $1139

Which is more bang for my buck? What if i upped the video card in my first computer? How would it be for gaming? I'm not some graphics whore, I'd be fine running on medium settings, I just want no lag.


Dude....so...much....money.

I just bought this:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Windows Computer $455.90
ECS G31T-M QUAD CORE 1333FSB DDR2 SATA2
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3Ghz 1333FSB 6MB
RECOMMENDED UPGRADE - HEAVY DUTY COOLER
4GB PC2 6400 800Mhz DDR2 Kit 2x2GB Chips
400GB Serial ATA 7200Rpm 16MB Cache SATA
INTEL GMA3100 ONBOARD 287MB SHARED VIDEO CARD ADAPTER
20x DVD±R/RW DUAL LAYER INTERNAL DRIVE
REALTEK ALC662 HD 6-CHANNEL HIGH DEFINITION SOUND CARD ADAPTER
REALTEK RTL8101E 10/100Mbps ETHERNET ADAPTER (LAN)
BEIGE ATX MIDTOWER CASE W/ POWER SUPPLY
Standard Power Supply With Case Selected
High-Speed Case Cooling Fan 80mm
MS WINDOWS XP HOME EDITION
Standard Assembly Ships Out In 3-7 Days
SHIPPING/HANDLING

After shipping it was $485.

Now I buy this card (with free shipping) from newegg for $145: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130420 (actually I might get 4850 instead, but that is also about the same price)

And I have computer that seems to suit exactly what you said you are buying yours for but I spend $630

And I'll be a happy little kid playing SC2 and D3 and have it for other normal computing needs. I recommend you save the extra money and if you wanna spend it, buy a friggin ginormous monitor or a sweet, sweet sound system.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 08:49:41
February 05 2009 00:30 GMT
#25
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
February 05 2009 01:55 GMT
#26
Sounds like Canadian bunk to me (the $10 "environmental fee"). You should move to the states. No "civil rights tribunal courts" doing Salem style witch hunts here either

Anyway, that computer is pretty much a beast. It should serve you pretty good. And if you are cool with spending that much (its still $1,200 in US dollars), then you will be happy with a very solid computer.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-05 09:57:54
February 05 2009 09:52 GMT
#27
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p.s. i didnt make this
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
rapture
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany645 Posts
February 05 2009 10:14 GMT
#28
system looks okay. you might think about an extra cpu cooler because the boxed cooler are pretty shitty and loud, and with with a better cooler you can OC the 8400.
also not sure if you really need 650W... i bought a similar system for my brother (worse grafic card) and used a 425W - works fine.
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