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Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-01 15:56:10
January 31 2009 00:25 GMT
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 31 2009 00:28 GMT
#2
oh wow
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
January 31 2009 00:28 GMT
#3
I don't understand what this is ordered by, where is leta?
BreaK
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada890 Posts
January 31 2009 00:34 GMT
#4
On January 31 2009 09:28 Azrael1111 wrote:
I don't understand what this is ordered by, where is leta?


It's ordered by win %, and I'm guessing it only has people with over 100 total games.
formerly ClouD.BreaK ~ gogo KTF! & Liquid!
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-31 00:36:12
January 31 2009 00:35 GMT
#5
On January 31 2009 09:28 Azrael1111 wrote:
I don't understand what this is ordered by, where is leta?


I think it's ordered by ELO peak.

Edit: It's not, it's ordered by best / curret winning percentage.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
xhuwin
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States476 Posts
January 31 2009 00:36 GMT
#6
Nada's average goes down every year =/
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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 31 2009 00:43 GMT
#7
On January 31 2009 09:36 xhuwin wrote:
Nada's average goes down every year =/


But he's still good! Nada fighting!
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
January 31 2009 01:00 GMT
#8
oov was a beast
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Draconizard
Profile Joined October 2008
628 Posts
January 31 2009 01:03 GMT
#9
Nada is easily the most successful SC progamer. He's still relevant, even after all this time.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
January 31 2009 01:06 GMT
#10
Oov 81% 2003 hahahah

Gets me every goddamn time.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
January 31 2009 01:20 GMT
#11
On January 31 2009 10:03 Draconizard wrote:
Nada is easily the most successful SC progamer. He's still relevant, even after all this time.
Eh', not really, no.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
January 31 2009 01:28 GMT
#12
Pusan seems consistent in his wins/lose ratio including games played.
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Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-31 02:00:59
January 31 2009 01:59 GMT
#13
On January 31 2009 10:20 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2009 10:03 Draconizard wrote:
Nada is easily the most successful SC progamer. He's still relevant, even after all this time.
Eh', not really, no.


?

I'm a huge Z fan and what Draconizard said is 100% true. He is both objectively the most successful SC progamer (most tournament wins) and easily argued to be subjectively the best of all time because of his amazing longevity (in the top 30 ELO every single month since he started playing... in fucking 2002)

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plus he just 2-0'd his msl group


On January 31 2009 09:35 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2009 09:28 Azrael1111 wrote:
I don't understand what this is ordered by, where is leta?


I think it's ordered by ELO peak.

Edit: It's not, it's ordered by best / curret winning percentage.


Which makes me wonder why BeSt is above Jaedong since they have tied win % but Jaedong has both more games and a higher ELO peak?
Is it just alphabetical at that point?
Writerman what
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-31 02:01:19
January 31 2009 02:00 GMT
#14
*double post* delete please
Writerman what
Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
January 31 2009 02:30 GMT
#15
Oooh awesome!
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
January 31 2009 02:52 GMT
#16
Oov you fucking monster
u gotta sk8
Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
January 31 2009 03:19 GMT
#17
On January 31 2009 10:59 Atrioc wrote:
Which makes me wonder why BeSt is above Jaedong since they have tied win % but Jaedong has both more games and a higher ELO peak?
Is it just alphabetical at that point?




Best has a slightly higher percentage which isn't shown due to rounding to 3 places.
In DotA you could
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
January 31 2009 03:21 GMT
#18
On January 31 2009 10:59 Atrioc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2009 10:20 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On January 31 2009 10:03 Draconizard wrote:
Nada is easily the most successful SC progamer. He's still relevant, even after all this time.
Eh', not really, no.


?

I'm a huge Z fan and what Draconizard said is 100% true. He is both objectively the most successful SC progamer (most tournament wins) and easily argued to be subjectively the best of all time because of his amazing longevity (in the top 30 ELO every single month since he started playing... in fucking 2002)
Sorry, I should of made it more clear, I meant to say hes not at all relevant to modern pro gaming anymore. He's played like two pro league games this season, and the only reason he advanced through his msl groups was because he faced scrubs. Nada is, at the moment, a scrub himself. Not even top 30 material.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
January 31 2009 03:45 GMT
#19
On January 31 2009 12:21 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2009 10:59 Atrioc wrote:
On January 31 2009 10:20 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On January 31 2009 10:03 Draconizard wrote:
Nada is easily the most successful SC progamer. He's still relevant, even after all this time.
Eh', not really, no.


?

I'm a huge Z fan and what Draconizard said is 100% true. He is both objectively the most successful SC progamer (most tournament wins) and easily argued to be subjectively the best of all time because of his amazing longevity (in the top 30 ELO every single month since he started playing... in fucking 2002)
Sorry, I should of made it more clear, I meant to say hes not at all relevant to modern pro gaming anymore. He's played like two pro league games this season, and the only reason he advanced through his msl groups was because he faced scrubs. Nada is, at the moment, a scrub himself. Not even top 30 material.


he's 33ed by elo right now according to tlpd. He hasn't been playing that many games recently however.

I would also argue that since the level between A team and S class is so small right now, Nada is still an A level gamer. He made it through an all mirror group, and he did 2-0 his group. Also, remember how far he advanced in the last MSL. I wouldn't write him off as a scrub just yet. You wouldn't really talk about him in the same sentence as the rest of his MSL group in terms of accomplishments.
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
January 31 2009 04:02 GMT
#20
I'd have to agree with GHOSTCLAW. Nada used to be a S class player, for sure. Even though he is still an amazing playing, you can't deny that he isn't getting worse. Consistent terran, for sure, just not the type of consistency that you can depend on to rape *any* player at any given time, except for other S class players.

But besides that, Nada fighting!
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