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Group Selection: The 4 seeds are placed in separate groups so that Seed #1 is 1st in Group A, Seed #2 is 1st in Group B and so on. The seeds then get to choose their groups. Seeds #1->#4 get to pick one player each from the player pool which then joins the seed in their group as the 2nd player. After that the 2nd player in Group D picks a player, then the 2nd player in Group C, then Group B then Group A. Then the 3rd player in Group A picks, then group B, then Group C, then Group D. And Viola! We have 4 groups of 4 players.
Group A (P)Stork[gm] (Samsung KHAN) Seed 2 Seed 3 Seed 4 Group B (T)by.fantasy (SK Telecom T1) Seed 2 Seed 3 Seed 4 Group C (P)BeSt[HyO] (SK Telecom T1) Seed 2 Seed 3 Seed 4 Group D (Z)GGPlay (Woongjin Stars) Seed 2 Seed 3 Seed 4
Possible picks:
(T)Leta (OnGameNet SPARKYZ) (P)Kal (STX SouL) (P)Bisu[Shield] (SK Telecom T1) (T)UpMagiC (eSTRO) (P)Tester (eSTRO) (T)By.Flash (KTF MagicNs) (T)Hwasin (STX SouL) (Z)by.hero (STX SouL) (Z)YellOw[ArnC] (OnGameNet SPARKYZ) (Z)Luxury (KTF MagicNs) (Z)July (STX SouL) (Z)Jaedong (Lecaf Oz)
Statistics: Player (Overall Record) (2008 Record)
Group A (P)Stork v:
(T)Leta (1-1) (0-0) (P)Kal (4-7) (3-6) (P)Bisu (8-7) (2-6) (T)UpMagiC (3-0) (2-0) (P)Tester (3-1) (0-0) (T)Flash (9-7) (4-6) (T)Hwasin (2-2) (1-0) (Z)by.hero (1-0) (0-0) (Z)YellOw[ArnC] (3-0) (0-0) (Z)Luxury (6-4) (5-3) (Z)July (3-4) (0-0) (Z)Jaedong (3-5) (0-2)
Group B (T)fantasy v:
(T)Leta (0-0) (P)Kal (0-0) (P)Bisu (0-0) (T)UpMagiC (0-1) (0-1) (P)Tester (0-1) (0-1) (T)Flash (1-3) (1-3) (T)Hwasin (1-1) (1-1) (Z)by.hero (0-0) (Z)YellOw[ArnC] (1-1) (1-1) (Z)Luxury (0-0) (Z)July (0-0) (Z)Jaedong (0-1) (0-1)
Group C (P)BeSt v:
(T)Leta (2-1) (2-1) (P)Kal (2-0) (2-0) (P)Bisu (0-1) (0-0) (T)UpMagiC (2-0) (1-0) (P)Tester (1-0) (0-0) (T)Flash (1-0) (1-0) (T)Hwasin (2-2) (2-1) (Z)by.hero (2-1) (2-1) (Z)YellOw[ArnC] (0-0) (Z)Luxury (4-2) (4-2) (Z)July (0-3) (0-3) (Z)Jaedong (2-4) (2-4)
Group D (Z)GGPlay v:
(T)Leta (0-2) (0-0) (P)Kal (0-0) (P)Bisu (0-1) (0-1) (T)UpMagiC (3-0) (0-0) (P)Tester (1-0) (1-0) (T)Flash (5-5) (2-3) (T)Hwasin (4-3) (0-0) (Z)by.hero (0-0) (Z)YellOw[ArnC] (3-2) (1-0) (Z)Luxury (0-2) (0-0) (Z)July (5-4) (0-1) (Z)Jaedong (0-1) (0-0)
+ Show Spoiler [Original Thoughts] +(P) Stork[gm] ( Samsung KHAN) Seeded(T)by. fantasy ( SK Telecom T1) Seeded(P) BeSt[HyO] ( SK Telecom T1) Seeded(Z) GGPlay ( Woongjin Stars) Seeded(P) Tester ( eSTRO) Picked by Stork to Group A(T) Hwasin ( STX SouL) Picked by fantasy to Group B(P) Kal ( STX SouL) Picked by BeSt to Group C(Z) by.hero ( STX SouL) Picked by GGPlay to Group D(T) UpMagiC ( eSTRO) Picked by Tester to Group A(Z) July ( STX SouL) Picked by Hwasin to Group B(Z) YellOw[ArnC] ( OnGameNet SPARKYZ) Picked by Kal to Group C(P) Bisu[Shield] ( SK Telecom T1) Picked by by.hero to Group D(Z) Luxury ( KTF MagicNs) Picked by UpMagiC to Group A(T) Leta ( OnGameNet SPARKYZ) Picked by July to Group B(T) By.Flash ( KTF MagicNs) Picked by YellOw[ArnC] to Group C(Z) Jaedong ( Lecaf Oz) Picked by Bisu to Group DGroup A(P) Stork[gm] ( Samsung KHAN) (P) Tester ( eSTRO) (T) UpMagiC ( eSTRO) (Z) Luxury ( KTF MagicNs) --> Reasoning: Stork will select Tester because he is by far the weakest player in the field. Whoever gets the first pick will select Tester, or they should in my opinion. Tester will select a Terran and the Only ones left at this Point will be UpMagiC, Leta, and Flash. Obvious choice is UpMagiC. UpMagiC wants to play a zerg, and the choices left will be Luxury or Jaedong. I Say he picks Luxury. Group B(T)by. fantasy ( SK Telecom T1) (T) Hwasin ( STX SouL) (Z) July ( STX SouL) (T) Leta ( OnGameNet SPARKYZ) --> Reasoning: fantasy will want to pick the weakest Terran or Zerg in my opinion. I don't think he has too much of a choice, but perhaps he will want UpMagiC instead of Hwasin. Hwasin will select July or Luxury or YellOw because he has no chance to beat Flash, Leta, Bisu, or Jaedong. I Say he picks July because of the matchup. July is Really stuck here, and has no choice but to pick Leta. He can't pick Flash or Jaedong. Group C(P) BeSt[HyO] ( SK Telecom T1) (P) Kal ( STX SouL) (Z) YellOw[ArnC] ( OnGameNet SPARKYZ) (T) By.Flash ( KTF MagicNs) --> Reasoning: BeSt has many, many, many choices. I think he would do well to pick Kal, who at the moment is playing quite poorly and BeSt can just overpower him. HerO has shown strong ZvP and the Only other choice I see would be UpMagiC in my view. Kal will go for a Zerg, and since YellOw is quite weak in the matchup he'll pick YellOw over July, Jaedong, or the on Fire Luxury. YellOw is shitting himself at this Point, down to two choices. Flash or Jaedong's zvz? Flash. Group D(Z) GGPlay ( Woongjin Stars) (Z) by.hero ( STX SouL) (P) Bisu[Shield] ( SK Telecom T1) (Z) Jaedong ( Lecaf Oz) --> Reasoning: GGPlay will likely go for the weakest player, because he just isn't that good of a player himself at the moment and doesn't have a hot matchup. by.hero has not shown he can do well zvz, and GGPlay just doesn't have the quality to win in this OSL environment. by.hero will pick Bisu! Why? Because he can. Bisu will pick Jaedong as the Last pick. He wants revenge. The second Bisu fears Zerg is the second he goes into a year long slump. Post GroupsLuxury A1 UpMagiC A2 Leta B1 fantasy B2 Flash C1 BeSt C2 Jaedong D1 Bisu D2 A1 v B2 A2 v B1 C1 v D2 C2 v D1 QuartersLuxury v fantasy UpMagiC v Leta Flash v Bisu BeSt v Jaedong SemisLuxury v Leta Bisu v Jaedong FinalJaedong v Leta Leta OSL Champion + Show Spoiler [Revised Thoughts!!] +
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msls steal draft is so much cooler. but hoping for some good groups
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
Sorry, your prediction is wrong, Leta has Kim Carrier's curse.
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If Bisu gets into an all-zerg group again...
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On January 29 2009 11:08 motbob wrote: Sorry, your prediction is wrong, Leta has Kim Carrier's curse. So did Stork, didn't he?
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Did they stop enforcing the rule to have at one player of every race in each group?
And your prediction takes no consideration of teams -_-;;
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United States13143 Posts
On January 29 2009 11:21 Cambium wrote: Did they stop enforcing the rule to have at one player of every race in each group? I think so, since EVER 08 had an all-zerg group.
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On January 29 2009 11:21 Cambium wrote: Did they stop enforcing the rule to have at one player of every race in each group?
And your prediction takes no consideration of teams -_-;;
Are you saying that players won't pick their teammates no matter what? What percentage do you think they factor in being teammates with someone when they're picking for an individual league? What if one player has a massive advantage in practice over another?
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On January 29 2009 12:32 Fzero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2009 11:21 Cambium wrote: Did they stop enforcing the rule to have at one player of every race in each group?
And your prediction takes no consideration of teams -_-;; Are you saying that players won't pick their teammates no matter what? What percentage do you think they factor in being teammates with someone when they're picking for an individual league? What if one player has a massive advantage in practice over another? I'd imagine that players would try to avoid picking teammates as much as possible. I don't (and I doubt anyone does) know much about in-house relationships, but I imagine picking your teammate solely because you think they would give you the best chance at advancing might be looked down on a little.
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CA10824 Posts
On January 29 2009 12:32 Fzero wrote: Are you saying that players won't pick their teammates no matter what? What percentage do you think they factor in being teammates with someone when they're picking for an individual league? What if one player has a massive advantage in practice over another?
umm people almost never pick their own teammates. the obvious exception being stork picking jangbi.
it basically creates problems in the house because of available practice partners, etc.
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CA10824 Posts
also, it's a really really crappy feeling to have to team-kill someone early in the tournament.
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Okay, I really had no idea about that. I'll revise my picks, then. XD
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Okay, I added probably a better set of drafts, but I still see mostly the same results. Only a few people had to move around.
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Stork would probably pick hwasin or upmagic 1st, what with PvT being his best MU and TvP being their worst MUs.
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Really? You think he'll pass up Tester if he gets first pick? Tester is basically a free win comparatively. He still has to practice to beat Hwasin and especially UpMagiC.
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Stork's been a lot shakier in PvP lately than PvT I would say.
But who knows, maybe he'll do the "noble" thing to do and pick like Jaedong (like how in the incruit OSL July picked Flash because he was criticized for not playing any terrans in his last run).
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CA10824 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Selection Ceremony] + Group A Stork => Tester => Hwasin => Jaedong Reasoning: Stork will pick Tester, ez win. Tester sucks at all MUs, but PvT is his only one over 50% and he'd rather play hwasin than someone like flash or leta. Hwasin isn't afraid of tough opponents, so he'll go for Jaedong.
Group B Fantasy => By.Hero => Bisu => Yarnc Fantasy will want TvZ to go mech again. by.hero is thinking "why is bisu here, didn't i eliminate him already?" Bisu will go for yarnc's relatively weak ZvP and to prove that he isn't afraid of PvZing.
Group C Best => Kal => Luxury => Leta Best has monster PvP. Kal wants revenge for MSL. Luxury's ZvT is hot.
Group D GGplay => Upmagic => July => Flash GGplay's ZvT is always strong especially in the late game, so he'll pick upmagic who has a relatively poor late game. upmagic will go for july, because july's zvt isn't so great right now. july will go for flash and try and abuse flash's turtle and move out gameplay by doing some early game all-in play.
+ Show Spoiler [Ro16] + Group A: Stork > Tester Hwasin > Jaedong Stork > Hwasin Jaedong > Tester Stork < Jaedong Hwasin > Tester
Stork 2-1 Jaedong 2-1 Hwasin 2-1 Tester 0-3 -> eliminated tester is outclassed in this group.
Tiebreaker: Stork < Jaedong Hwasin > Jaedong Hwasin > Stork Stork -> eliminated Hwasin -> A1 Jaedong -> A2 i just have this feeling that hwasin will be on fire this starleague. jaedong will beat stork.
Group B Fantasy < by.hero Bisu < Yarnc Fantasy < Bisu by.hero < Yarnc Fantasy < Yarnc Bisu < by.hero
Yarnc 3-0 -> B1 by.hero 2-1 -> B2 Bisu 1-2 -> eliminated Fantasy 0-3 -> eliminated fantasy will get shown up. bisu will be eliminated (again). yarnc is hot at the moment, and so is by.hero.
Group C Best > Kal Luxury < Leta Best < Luxury Kal < Leta Best < Leta Kal < Luxury
Leta 3-0 -> C1 Luxury 2-1 -> C2 Best 1-2 -> eliminated Kal 0-3 -> eliminated kal has been showing faltering play lately. leta will make a strong run this starleague. luxury is doing too well right now not to advance. best will get raped by luxury and will lose in a close game with leta.
Group D GGplay > Upmagic July < Flash GGplay < July Upmagic < Flash GGplay < Flash Upmagic < July
Flash 3-0 -> D1 July 2-1 -> D2 GGplay 1-2 -> eliminated Upmagic 0-3 -> eliminated flash is flash. july will somehow miraculously make it out. ggplay won't show up. upmagic's gimmicky play won't cut it at the starleague level.
+ Show Spoiler [Ro8] + Hwasin 2-1 by.hero Jaedong 2-0 Yarnc hwasin's TvZ is too good. he probably rapes by.hero daily during their practice sessions. likewise, jaedong makes ZvZ imba.
Leta 2-0 July Luxury 2-1 Flash Leta will make july bend over. Luxury will win in a very close match with flash.
+ Show Spoiler [Semifinals & Finals] + Semifinals Hwasin 3-2 Jaedong Luxury 3-2 Leta two tense Bo5s. really these could go either way but these are the two i picked.
Finals Hwasin 3-2 Luxury hwasin will finally get over his big stage jitters and take home the trophy in an epic Bo5.
Hwasin is your Batoo Starleague champion!
(also, i hate protosses so i didn't have any of them advance LOL)
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
imo fantasy might choose flash early, he has said multiple times he wants to play against flash to be a better player
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On January 29 2009 14:06 LosingID8 wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Selection Ceremony] + Group A Stork => Tester => Hwasin => Jaedong Reasoning: Stork will pick Tester, ez win. Tester sucks at all MUs, but PvT is his only one over 50% and he'd rather play hwasin than someone like flash or leta. Hwasin isn't afraid of tough opponents, so he'll go for Jaedong.
Group B Fantasy => By.Hero => Bisu => Yarnc Fantasy will want TvZ to go mech again. by.hero is thinking "why is bisu here, didn't i eliminate him already?" Bisu will go for yarnc's relatively weak ZvP and to prove that he isn't afraid of PvZing.
Group C Best => Kal => Luxury => Leta Best has monster PvP. Kal wants revenge for MSL. Luxury's ZvT is hot.
Group D GGplay => Upmagic => July => Flash GGplay's ZvT is always strong especially in the late game, so he'll pick upmagic who has a relatively poor late game. upmagic will go for july, because july's zvt isn't so great right now. july will go for flash and try and abuse flash's turtle and move out gameplay by doing some early game all-in play.
+ Show Spoiler [Ro16] + Group A: Stork > Tester Hwasin > Jaedong Stork > Hwasin Jaedong > Tester Stork < Jaedong Hwasin > Tester
Stork 2-1 Jaedong 2-1 Hwasin 2-1 Tester 0-3 -> eliminated tester is outclassed in this group.
Tiebreaker: Stork < Jaedong Hwasin > Jaedong Hwasin > Stork Stork -> eliminated Hwasin -> A1 Jaedong -> A2 i just have this feeling that hwasin will be on fire this starleague. jaedong will beat stork.
Group B Fantasy < by.hero Bisu < Yarnc Fantasy < Bisu by.hero < Yarnc Fantasy < Yarnc Bisu < by.hero
Yarnc 3-0 -> B1 by.hero 2-1 -> B2 Bisu 1-2 -> eliminated Fantasy 0-3 -> eliminated fantasy will get shown up. bisu will be eliminated (again). yarnc is hot at the moment, and so is by.hero.
Group C Best > Kal Luxury < Leta Best < Luxury Kal < Leta Best < Leta Kal < Luxury
Leta 3-0 -> C1 Luxury 2-1 -> C2 Best 1-2 -> eliminated Kal 0-3 -> eliminated kal has been showing faltering play lately. leta will make a strong run this starleague. luxury is doing too well right now not to advance. best will get raped by luxury and will lose in a close game with leta.
Group D GGplay > Upmagic July < Flash GGplay < July Upmagic < Flash GGplay < Flash Upmagic < July
Flash 3-0 -> D1 July 2-1 -> D2 GGplay 1-2 -> eliminated Upmagic 0-3 -> eliminated flash is flash. july will somehow miraculously make it out. ggplay won't show up. upmagic's gimmicky play won't cut it at the starleague level.
+ Show Spoiler [Ro8] + Hwasin 2-1 by.hero Jaedong 2-0 Yarnc hwasin's TvZ is too good. he probably rapes by.hero daily during their practice sessions. likewise, jaedong makes ZvZ imba.
Leta 2-0 July Luxury 2-1 Flash Leta will make july bend over. Luxury will win in a very close match with flash.
+ Show Spoiler [Semifinals & Finals] + Semifinals Hwasin 3-2 Jaedong Luxury 3-2 Leta two tense Bo5s. really these could go either way but these are the two i picked.
Finals Hwasin 3-2 Luxury hwasin will finally get over his big stage jitters and take home the trophy in an epic Bo5.
Hwasin is your Batoo Starleague champion!
(also, i hate protosses so i didn't have any of them advance LOL)
I agree all the way up to the semifinals. IMO Jaedong>Hwasin (QUEENS AGAIN!!!) and Leta>Luxury.
Jaedong-OSL CHAMP 3-2 Leta in very, very close games.
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