EPT"Money and Corruption Are ruining the land Crooked politicians Betray the working man, Pocketing the profits And treating us like sheep, And we're tired of hearing promises That we know they'll never keep."
–Ray Davies
The Bush Admin in 9 minutes 27 seconds
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
"Money and Corruption Are ruining the land Crooked politicians Betray the working man, Pocketing the profits And treating us like sheep, And we're tired of hearing promises That we know they'll never keep." –Ray Davies | ||
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
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Ideas
United States8175 Posts
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d34gl3r
Korea (South)92 Posts
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Spenguin
Australia3316 Posts
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
I agree with Olbermann in that Bush's term obviously was not a good one in the grand scheme of things, but that doesn't make this good journalism. | ||
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Durak
Canada3685 Posts
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liger13
United States1060 Posts
all of it... he killed my kitten  | ||
micronesia
United States24799 Posts
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Hans-Titan
Denmark1711 Posts
Took quite a beating there, mista Bush. | ||
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Saracen
United States5139 Posts
On January 18 2009 10:08 []p4NDemik[] wrote: I agree with Olbermann in that Bush's term obviously was not a good one in the grand scheme of things, but that doesn't make this good journalism. | ||
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Freyr
United States500 Posts
On January 18 2009 10:08 []p4NDemik[] wrote: Not that I approve of the job Bush did in office, but I don't see what people get from journalism that is either this negative or equally as approving of things. Just taking into consideration the sheer amount of decisions/comments that a President is going to make we could make a laundry list of all the things each president in history did wrong. Of course we would have zero perspective about how good the various administrations were if we didn't weight the positives with the negatives. I agree with Olbermann in that Bush's term obviously was not a good one in the grand scheme of things, but that doesn't make this good journalism. It's not so much a list of what Bush "did wrong" as it is a list of times when Bush revealed himself to be an appalling example of a human being. Maybe other modern presidents could compare, but that doesn't excuse any of it. This kind of journalism may be a bad thing in most circumstances, but even with the greatest degree of objectivity it is near impossible to populate a counter-list of positive aspects to the Bush administration. Olbermann's speech could be considered important so that people realize the magnitude of negativity which impacted the country during Bush's time in office - often as direct result of action taken by the administration. Consequently, one might hope that a greater number of people will become politically aware, and more able to act against deleterious politicians in the future ( as opposed to...ensuring that they stay in office). | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
ours.. "Corrupt politicians make the other ten percent look bad." –Henry A. Kissinger and he knows, his has been in the thick of it for years.. + Show Spoiler + On January 17 2009 09:39 Plexa wrote: Well to be fair Bush did do the best he could! Which was fucking piss poor! it really depends on his goals.. 1. if he was trying to do the best he could for his nation you "could" be right.. 2. if he was trying to improve humanity he probably couldn't not have done worse short of starting a nuclear war 3. now if it was striving for wealth, influence and power for himself and his family, he actually did pretty good 4. as for history, every knows history is written by the winners.. I am so cynical on this issue that I find the first option doubtful because I honestly think he never had his nation as a first priority. I find the second option laughable even though he would often harper on how he was bringing democracy and freedom to the middle east. In all likelihood he was going for option 3 and never really did give option 4 much thought. I suppose nothing is black and white and he might have had at one or another time all four interests in his mind - still I know which one usually took his priority.. He was not a patriot no matter his pretense. Some might have see him for a fool, but I saw only the pretense of character and principles gradually morph into early dementia, while all along his family and those in his own circle of influence grew in wealth, influence and power. The irony of it all is that people give him too much credit for his faults, for all we know he was essentially the puppet of many and thus my choice of quote.. The senate could have put a stop or curbed off much what of what occurred but when all was said and done, business as usual and nothing was done.. But yes.. I doubt anyone will argue today that he was one of the worst US presidents we have had in modern history. "The accomplice to the crime of corruption is frequently our own indifference." –Bess Myerson | ||
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
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Not_Computer
Canada2277 Posts
oh wow... i think i need to watch that again | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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United States5725 Posts
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whatusername
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MrHoon
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
Generally, ppl on TL make fun of Foxnews for being conservative but I almost never hear MSNBC bashed for this kind of reporting. Which I guess shows that people don't so much mind bias, as they mind bias that doesn't agree with their own views. When bad journalism agrees with your opinions, you get reactions like: goddamn this is going to be on my favorite list and that is pretty sad. | ||
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
"Half of those polled say U.S. would be better off if Al Gore had won in 2000" LoL, how suprising is that? I guess 8 years must have really changed a lot of people's minds about how they voted... EDIT: Actually its not as funny as I initially thought because I misread the explanatory paragraph that stated: " Half of those polled say the United States could be better off today if Al Gore had been elected president in 2000 rather than Bush, with 27 percent saying the country would be worse off if Gore had won. Twenty-two percent say things would be about the same." I thought it had said that 27% thought it would better and 27% worse. Still, 50% say worse, and 49% say the same or better. Still seems like not too many people are convinced that they made the wrong vote since the outcome of the election was 48.4% for Gore and 47.9% for Bush. Any guesses as to which 50% it was that thought things would have been better under Gore? | ||
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KH1031
United States862 Posts
Don't get this wrong, I think Bush is an idiot - but Olbermann showed an obvious bias in his report, which makes this more like entertainment than journalism. | ||
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ProTech_MediC
United States498 Posts
On January 19 2009 15:11 Savio wrote: Fox news is much easier to bash because of the flat out lying. This rant is mostly exaggerations.I dislike all cable news and don't watch it as I have mentioned in other threads, but with this video, MSNBC makes itself look ridiculous. It should be a black and white tabloid. Generally, ppl on TL make fun of Foxnews for being conservative but I almost never hear MSNBC bashed for this kind of reporting. Which I guess shows that people don't so much mind bias, as they mind bias that doesn't agree with their own views. When bad journalism agrees with your opinions, you get reactions like: and that is pretty sad. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
I think there is a difference between educated rants and flat out bullshit. | ||
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Savio
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