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http://sc2gg.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=5779
just a quick glance and their writers don't seem to know much about the scene/game
WorldCommunist8: ... Jaedong seems burnt out, Flash got egotistical, July came back for a quick 15 minutes of fame, and Stork finally got it together.
Really, I don't understand all the credit to Leta. He did have help in getting OGN to the Proleague result it achieved in Luxury, and he hasn't been good enough in the Starleagues either.
KnightofNi: Note that the only Zerg winner in 2008 (July!!) played on a nice set of Zerg maps, including the only definitively ZvP favored map of the year, Hwarangdo.
MrBitter: Stork's OSL run was, in every sense of the word, amazing. He should not have gotten through any of his groups. When he did, he should have gotten destroyed in the final. But he held strong and brought home his first long awaited, and much deserved, OSL title.
... a good laugh
 
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United States24743 Posts
It's not as funny when you expect it though.
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"jaedong seems burnt out"
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I don't pay attention to the pro-scene very much, but Mr.Bitter's comments were more or less correct, no? Stork had a reputation of choking and losing, so weren't most people expecting that?
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thedeadhaji
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wtf @ stork should have being destroyed in the finals.
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ohgod, whenever I see KnightofNi's name I cringe. I suppose I have nothing against the guy personally, but whenever he obnoxiously laughed into his mic during that OSL/MSL finals live cast, (I forget which one it was,) my ears felt like they were going to bleed.
edit: and yeah, all of those comments are prettymuch '-somewhat but not all the way-' correct. Jaedong and Flash were both slightly slumping for a very short while and everyone expected Stork to choke, but really, these comments are quite wrong considering they're 'looking back at 08' as a whole.
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On January 02 2009 07:25 Salv wrote:
I don't pay attention to the pro-scene very much, but Mr.Bitter's comments were more or less correct, no? Stork had a reputation of choking and losing, so weren't most people expecting that?
yeah, but in a group of backho, sea, fantasy and himself he's the clear favorite. And his PvP is generally considered to be better than Bisu's (at least, when this happened it was, which was before Bisu's MSL victory).
Against Best he was the underdog.
I think against Fantasy a lot of people would have liked him to lose, but he's a much better player than Fantasy and, except for the fact that it was a starleague final, should have easily taken the series (he almost did, then made it really close)
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stork should have gotten destroyed by fantasy?
ahashahashashahahahahahahahahaahhaha
all of those were pretty funny by the way
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Normally im neutral in the tl/sc2gg thing i even watch cholera/diggity/moletrap commentaries, but these comments are just pathetic and show a complete lack of proscene sc knowledge.
WorldCommunist8: You heavily exaggerated Jaedongs mini slump, July currently is 9-4 in proleague and still in the osl, Stork always had it together just fails in finals, Leta is the proleague mvp with a rediculous amount of wins i dont know offhand.
KnightofNi: Andromeda says hai
MrBitter: Stork was favored in alot of his OSL matches if not all and heavily favored in the finals against Fantasy.
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some silly comments... They're no TL but I have nothing against them, I can weed out the true from the untrue enough to enjoy some of the content that they provide... Would be nice if they didn't say things such as those above though, their content would be much better....
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On January 02 2009 08:00 Motiva wrote:
some silly comments... They're no TL but I have nothing against them, I can weed out the true from the untrue enough to enjoy some of the content that they provide... Would be nice if they didn't say things such as those above though, their content would be much better....
Completely agreed besides statements like these i do enjoy Sc2gg, so much potential but they got some fat to trim.
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it's not fair ripping short texts out of context and posting them here.. ~~
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On January 02 2009 08:07 freelander wrote:
it's not fair ripping short texts out of context and posting them here.. ~~
Their context couldnt be more clear.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
Jaedong is not burned out, Commie8, you are.
Flash is NOT egotistical, the reason he 14CCs often (fine, always) is because late game macro and control is what he does best, so he is trying to force the game into a macro-based one.
Leta has like the 2nd or 3rd best win % in 2008. Please, do your research before you speak.
But overall, these were pretty funny.Reminded me of Sarah Palin speaking about dinosaurs.
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On January 02 2009 08:23 3 Lions wrote:
Jaedong is not burned out, Commie8, you are.
Flash is NOT egotistical, the reason he 14CCs often (fine, always) is because late game macro and control is what he does best, so he is trying to force the game into a macro-based one.
Leta has like the 2nd or 3rd best win % in 2008. Please, do your research before you speak.
But overall, these were pretty funny.Reminded me of Sarah Palin speaking about dinosaurs.
Well, both JD and Flash have healthy egos. What I mean is they know they can win in order to train harder when they don't.
I thought some of it was correct, though being a Jaedong fan I was disappointed by their under-acknowledgement of Jaedong's dominance in '08. I really enjoy some of their writeups like Proleague Weekly and Face-Off(discontinued) and watch their commentaries because Korean gets tedious after awhile and they're pretty exciting most of the time.
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On January 02 2009 08:07 freelander wrote:
it's not fair ripping short texts out of context and posting them here.. ~~
uhhhh
unless the context was "who can say the dumbest shit about progaming" I really don't think that's necessary lol
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On January 02 2009 08:29 Frits wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2009 08:07 freelander wrote:
it's not fair ripping short texts out of context and posting them here.. ~~ uhhhh unless the context was "who can say the dumbest shit about progaming" I really don't think that's necessary lol
Hmm if that was the context who would win lol?
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On January 02 2009 07:25 Salv wrote:
I don't pay attention to the pro-scene very much, but Mr.Bitter's comments were more or less correct, no? Stork had a reputation of choking and losing, so weren't most people expecting that?
Choking reflects his skill in no way shape or form. Logically he shouldn't be the underdog in any scenario he goes into. The guy made it sound like he was facing an opponent who was far superior to him, which was not the case.
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On January 02 2009 08:33 selboN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2009 07:25 Salv wrote:
I don't pay attention to the pro-scene very much, but Mr.Bitter's comments were more or less correct, no? Stork had a reputation of choking and losing, so weren't most people expecting that? Choking reflects his skill in no way shape or form. Logically he shouldn't be the underdog in any scenario he goes into. The guy made it sound like he was facing an opponent who was far superior to him, which was not the case.
I'm sure he meant that Stork often chokes in the finals.
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I stay out of the TL/Sc2GG thing but I respect both sites and what they do for starcraft. I respect every starcraft site and visit each for different aspects of coverage. All 3 big sites have the other beat in different areas, when combined it provides a nice all around starcraft scene coverage.
And of course all 3 have their flaws, it goes both ways.
I respect anyone who does anything starcraft related, love the game and love any and all coverage and work ANYONE puts into making it more interesting and fun for the rest of us.
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I don't think many people actually expected fantasy to beat stork in his strongest MU
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On January 02 2009 08:43 LuckyFool wrote:
I stay out of the TL/Sc2GG thing but I respect both sites and what they do for starcraft. I respect every starcraft site and visit each for different aspects of coverage. All 3 big sites have the other beat in different areas, when combined it provides a nice all around starcraft scene coverage.
And of course all 3 have their flaws, it goes both ways.
I respect anyone who does anything starcraft related, love the game and love any and all coverage and work ANYONE puts into making it more interesting and fun for the rest of us.
This is actually just people that understands understanding how people that do not understand understands progaming. It's only people that don't understand that thinks there is a war when there isn't. Go away hippie. There is no war here.
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On January 02 2009 09:05 Aerox wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2009 08:43 LuckyFool wrote:
I stay out of the TL/Sc2GG thing but I respect both sites and what they do for starcraft. I respect every starcraft site and visit each for different aspects of coverage. All 3 big sites have the other beat in different areas, when combined it provides a nice all around starcraft scene coverage.
And of course all 3 have their flaws, it goes both ways.
I respect anyone who does anything starcraft related, love the game and love any and all coverage and work ANYONE puts into making it more interesting and fun for the rest of us.
This is actually just people that understands understanding how people that do not understand understands progaming.
It's so clear to me now.
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What's the big deal with harassing those guys? I don't really visit the site, I don't mind listening to VODs in Korean, but really, why do you got to rip them on everything they say? So what, they made some "errors" in judgment, but first of all, it seemed to be an opinion piece, so they're entitled to their own, and second, it's not like they posted it here. By bringing that here, you're just trolling for fights, not providing some kind of criticism.
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On January 02 2009 09:05 Aerox wrote:
This is actually just people that understands understanding how people that do not understand understands progaming. It's only people that don't understand that thinks there is a war when there isn't. Go away hippie. There is no war here.
O_O
my brain just exploded
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I've got no problem with sc2gg, I think their relative lack of expertise can be easily forgiven when you consider the amount of material they create for the community. That being said, every quote I have ever read of wc8 leads me to believe that he is an insufferable moron, and idk why anybody would put him on their staff.
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
zzzz....
+ Show Spoiler +Imagine if people made lots of threads to discuss all the comments they thought stupid in assorted StarCraft forums, including this one, and then sat on their high chairs and judged the whole from the parts.. I guess for some, hiding behind their screens is simply not enough.
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On January 02 2009 09:46 Physician wrote:zzzz.... + Show Spoiler +Imagine if people made lots of threads to discuss all the comments they thought stupid in assorted StarCraft forums, including this one, and then sat on their high chairs and judged the whole from the parts.. I guess for some, hiding behind their screens is simply not enough.
ok, these are head writers for the site. I'd hope that they'd get their information correct more often and not be blind fbh/bisu/whoever fanboys
stupid people exist everywhere. Just look at our ban list here at TL
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
Sunyveil, fanboys is what keeps pro-gaming alive, insulting or laughing at them, and from another forum, is just wrong man.. go post it there if it matters to you, get banned and be a man.. (lol)
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good one physician 
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Spreading information that is false to the community like these does more harm then good imo, not trying to bash sc2gg i respect them greatly and the unbelievable amount of material they create for the community.
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wc8 seems pretty arrogant in general to be honest -_-
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Shouldn't of made this thread, now WC8 will hack TL's Gibson 
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On January 02 2009 09:50 Sunyveil wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2009 09:46 Physician wrote:zzzz.... + Show Spoiler +Imagine if people made lots of threads to discuss all the comments they thought stupid in assorted StarCraft forums, including this one, and then sat on their high chairs and judged the whole from the parts.. I guess for some, hiding behind their screens is simply not enough. stupid people exist everywhere. Just look at our ban list here at TL
Or at your posts!
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I wished Stork would have been beaten by Fantasy. TERRAN FOREVER!!!
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On January 02 2009 12:40 Salv wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2009 09:50 Sunyveil wrote:On January 02 2009 09:46 Physician wrote:zzzz.... + Show Spoiler +Imagine if people made lots of threads to discuss all the comments they thought stupid in assorted StarCraft forums, including this one, and then sat on their high chairs and judged the whole from the parts.. I guess for some, hiding behind their screens is simply not enough. stupid people exist everywhere. Just look at our ban list here at TL Or at your posts!
epic 1000th post right there
Edit: so you're staff at sc2gg. That makes sense
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not really topic worthy, and it wasn't really funny
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EPT
