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Gonna spoiler this, because i'll be giving away the plot: Why I liked Gran Turino
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One of the main themes of Gran Turino is overcoming barriers, not to say "racism" - since I don't think Clint's character is racist in that he hates blacks, asians, etc... but more that they make him uncomfortable because of the unfamiliarity. He befriends the Hmongs that live next door and as a result learns that he has more in common with them than he might think. Also the friendships he builds are conveyed really well, and seem quite meaningful.
There's also Clint's own internal struggle to overcome the traumas he faced during the Korean war, which haunt him throughout the movie until he finally is at peace in the end. For example, most people would expect Clint's character to kill all the gangsters at the end, especially because Clint's characters are always badass. He realizes though that he doesn't need to kill them to get what he wants, and he also wants to send a message to Thao that violence is not the only way to solve problems. He sacrificed himself to have the gangsters actually arrested and put in jail rather than retaliate violence on violence, which would only perpetuate problems in the future. So in the end, he is able to make peace with himself and die in a truly heroic fashion - not like his earning of the silver star during the Korean War for actually killing people.
Non Spoiler reasons for why I liked the movie:
- The acting was really good, especially Clint Eastwood, he's probably going to be nominated for the role, and just might even win it.
- It's funny as shit - I was pretty much constantly laughing my ass off through 3/4ths of the movie because of all the shit Clint Eastwood says - bunch of racist old white guy jabber for about 1.5 hours.
In all seriousness I think the (un)intentional comedy of Clint's character serves really well to lighten the mood so that the ending and overall climax of the movie doesn't turn into too much of a downer.
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On December 30 2008 14:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
But Spike Lee sure doesn't like him.
LOL screw Spike Lee, just another crybaby.
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United States11130 Posts
I thought Flags of our Fathers was not a good movie at all. I haven't seen this new one yet so I won't say anything.
Yet.
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Yeah, gran torino was amazing. It had so many great messages and dynamic characters within it, along with prettymuch every feeling you can think of.
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I didn't like Flags of Our Fathers
just a bunch of testosterone action that isn't as good as Saving Private Ryan's and a rather dull story after the action's over (in my opinion). It's not atrociously bad by any means, just.. mediocre to me. 2.5 out of 4 stars
I heard Letters of Iwo Jima was better though
edit: he is a kickass actor
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You can't deny the chick in Gran Torino was terrible as an actor. The boy was pretty bad too. Clint was alright, reminded me of an old snake in MGS4. Dying, Old, but still badass.
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I know it's not him acting, but Escape from Alcatraz was on the other day and damn, i love that movie
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Unforgiven is one of the best movies ever. Fuck that movie owns so hard, the ending scene is so unbelievably badass.
Clint will always be my favorite person in the movie business, by far.
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Pitcairn19291 Posts
Clint Eastwood is totally a badass actor with some pretty great directing skills. No wonder his name is an anagram for Old West Action.
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On December 30 2008 23:13 Zidane wrote:
You can't deny the chick in Gran Torino was terrible as an actor. The boy was pretty bad too. Clint was alright, reminded me of an old snake in MGS4. Dying, Old, but still badass.
i think foreigners acting in American films are often mistaken for being bad actors.
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On December 31 2008 02:00 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2008 23:13 Zidane wrote:
You can't deny the chick in Gran Torino was terrible as an actor. The boy was pretty bad too. Clint was alright, reminded me of an old snake in MGS4. Dying, Old, but still badass. i think foreigners acting in American films are often mistaken for being bad actors.
Are they even real actors? I think I heard somewhere that they weren't really real actors.
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On December 31 2008 05:37 MetalMarine wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2008 02:00 Xeris wrote:On December 30 2008 23:13 Zidane wrote:
You can't deny the chick in Gran Torino was terrible as an actor. The boy was pretty bad too. Clint was alright, reminded me of an old snake in MGS4. Dying, Old, but still badass. i think foreigners acting in American films are often mistaken for being bad actors. Are they even real actors? I think I heard somewhere that they weren't really real actors.
Yeah real actors only exist in America, I thought this was common knowledge.
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On December 31 2008 07:32 Frits wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2008 05:37 MetalMarine wrote:On December 31 2008 02:00 Xeris wrote:On December 30 2008 23:13 Zidane wrote:
You can't deny the chick in Gran Torino was terrible as an actor. The boy was pretty bad too. Clint was alright, reminded me of an old snake in MGS4. Dying, Old, but still badass. i think foreigners acting in American films are often mistaken for being bad actors. Are they even real actors? I think I heard somewhere that they weren't really real actors. Yeah real actors only exist in America, I thought this was common knowledge.
Uhh its not what i meant lol, i heard that they were just chosen out of a group of people to make it real or some shit
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This could be why you thought they were "bad actors"
"Open casting calls for Hmong actors were held in Hmong communities in Detroit, Michigan; Saint Paul, Minnesota; and Fresno, California. None of the Hmong actors in the cast had acted in a film before except Doua Moua." - from IMDB
pretty decent for people who never acted before, I mean you could tell that it wasn't natural for them, but so what.
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Gran Torino was an awesome movie.
Although I thought Changeling sucked, Clint Eastwood's films have pretty much been 4-5 star classics.
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Changeling was good! Not future-classics like some of his other films, Mystic River, Million Dollar Baby, and now Gran Torino... but it was a real good/solid film
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On December 31 2008 14:05 Xeris wrote:
This could be why you thought they were "bad actors"
"Open casting calls for Hmong actors were held in Hmong communities in Detroit, Michigan; Saint Paul, Minnesota; and Fresno, California. None of the Hmong actors in the cast had acted in a film before except Doua Moua." - from IMDB
pretty decent for people who never acted before, I mean you could tell that it wasn't natural for them, but so what.
yea this
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so i saw gran torino
i was kind of dreading seeing it, i thought it'd be a typical predictable "angry guy meets heartwarming children and becomes nice" movie, but it was awesome
clint eastwood ftw
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