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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 30 2008 04:41 GMT
#41
saying you don't play a game "seriously" is the biggest bullshit copout you can have. you play games to win them... nobody goes into a game saying "FUCK IM PLANNING ON LOSING THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE" ... if you're not killing your command center at the start, you're playing to win it.

the "I didn't play seriously" excuse is just a cover up for: I tried to do some cute shit to beat you so I could look really cool but I fucked up so I blamed the loss on not playing seriously.

and also I'll repeat: how do you know you have a "really really good understanding of the game". I "think" I know a lot about BW, but when I actually have talked to people like Day[9] or SchiSm in real life about BW, I feel like my knowledge is 1/100th of theirs. I think you're valuing your game knowledge way too much and basically making it out to seem like you're just a step away from being a top level foreigner.

take a step back and look at your play more realistically, realize that you have some big flaws, and start training.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 30 2008 07:19 GMT
#42
actually - after re-reading your op post... are you TerranDynamics on ICCUP? O_O:
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9108 Posts
December 30 2008 08:23 GMT
#43
On December 29 2008 16:54 InfeSteD wrote:
- Everytime I get a lead I get super greedy and never finish the game when Im supposed to and sometimes I lose for being a fagget


I do this a ton myself. Earlier today I had a PvP literally game over and I threw it away for no reason. Maybe my subconscious was trying to escape and make me lose to punish me.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-31 00:58:39
December 30 2008 09:29 GMT
#44
On December 30 2008 13:41 Xeris wrote:
saying you don't play a game "seriously" is the biggest bullshit copout you can have. you play games to win them... nobody goes into a game saying "FUCK IM PLANNING ON LOSING THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE" ... if you're not killing your command center at the start, you're playing to win it.

the "I didn't play seriously" excuse is just a cover up for: I tried to do some cute shit to beat you so I could look really cool but I fucked up so I blamed the loss on not playing seriously.

and also I'll repeat: how do you know you have a "really really good understanding of the game". I "think" I know a lot about BW, but when I actually have talked to people like Day[9] or SchiSm in real life about BW, I feel like my knowledge is 1/100th of theirs. I think you're valuing your game knowledge way too much and basically making it out to seem like you're just a step away from being a top level foreigner.

take a step back and look at your play more realistically, realize that you have some big flaws, and start training.



Of course people always play to win, but they may not be at 100% and know they don't want to play at 100% and therfore do some weird shit and not be serious about it. Sorta like that extra game we played at so cal lan where I did some retarded build and you went scouts lol.

Also, you can try your best 100% with a joke build.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
.gypsy
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada689 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-31 03:00:51
December 31 2008 02:55 GMT
#45
Edited version : eapm is pure crap and generally who cares about the corrolation between apm and skill.

If you're good go play good players and stop bitching on TL about it
Why are you bitching on TL about this?
Go get better and prove to yourself that you're good instead of making posts about how good you could be to convince yourself that you're good.

This is pretty BM but honnestly, why would you make such a post?..
https://www.twitch.tv/gypsy93
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
December 31 2008 03:38 GMT
#46
uhh for overcoming being an emotional player, i have a few tips

granted i'm a C player, and I still do rage at the game, i have it controlled at least somewhat now.

- being not cheesed helps, because if you lose to cheese, you feel like absolute shit.
- but what you can do is just ignore everything except your mistake and forget about the game, regardless of how perfectly you played leading up to the mistake. for example, i lost today a 3 hatch hydra break in. so i just highlight "scouting" in the next part of my game, and pay more attention to that aspect.
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
December 31 2008 04:15 GMT
#47
On December 31 2008 11:55 VyzhiS wrote:
Edited version : eapm is pure crap and generally who cares about the corrolation between apm and skill.

If you're good go play good players and stop bitching on TL about it
Why are you bitching on TL about this?
Go get better and prove to yourself that you're good instead of making posts about how good you could be to convince yourself that you're good.

This is pretty BM but honnestly, why would you make such a post?..


eAPM is not perfect but it sure as hell is a better indicator of multitasking ability than APM.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 31 2008 04:46 GMT
#48
The point is though, if you have 200 eapm, you SHOULD be good - if you have 200+ eapm and you still aren't good, then there is some SERIOUS issues, or you just plain suck and use your APM retardedly.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
December 31 2008 16:54 GMT
#49
On December 30 2008 16:19 Xeris wrote:
actually - after re-reading your op post... are you TerranDynamics on ICCUP? O_O:


Im not TerranDynamics (Why though?).. I think I played him a week ago and beat him on RHIII ... he wasnt bm O_O (I dunno if that's what you meant)
w/e
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
December 31 2008 16:58 GMT
#50
On December 30 2008 18:29 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2008 13:41 Xeris wrote:
saying you don't play a game "seriously" is the biggest bullshit copout you can have. you play games to win them... nobody goes into a game saying "FUCK IM PLANNING ON LOSING THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE" ... if you're not killing your command center at the start, you're playing to win it.

the "I didn't play seriously" excuse is just a cover up for: I tried to do some cute shit to beat you so I could look really cool but I fucked up so I blamed the loss on not playing seriously.

and also I'll repeat: how do you know you have a "really really good understanding of the game". I "think" I know a lot about BW, but when I actually have talked to people like Day[9] or SchiSm in real life about BW, I feel like my knowledge is 1/100th of theirs. I think you're valuing your game knowledge way too much and basically making it out to seem like you're just a step away from being a top level foreigner.

take a step back and look at your play more realistically, realize that you have some big flaws, and start training.



Of course people always play to win, but they may not be at 100% and know they don't want to play at 100% and therfore do some weird shit and not be serious about it. Sorta like that extra game we played at so cal lan where I did some retarded build and you went scouts lol.

Also, you can try your best 100% with a joke build.


+1


On December 30 2008 17:23 Jonoman92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2008 16:54 InfeSteD wrote:
- Everytime I get a lead I get super greedy and never finish the game when Im supposed to and sometimes I lose for being a fagget


I do this a ton myself. Earlier today I had a PvP literally game over and I threw it away for no reason. Maybe my subconscious was trying to escape and make me lose to punish me.


It is true, I mean Progamers do it like for instance "(T)Flash" everybody complains about him doing that kind of stuff... why wouldnt a normal mortal like us do it too?

On December 31 2008 11:55 VyzhiS wrote:
Edited version : eapm is pure crap and generally who cares about the corrolation between apm and skill.

If you're good go play good players and stop bitching on TL about it
Why are you bitching on TL about this?
Go get better and prove to yourself that you're good instead of making posts about how good you could be to convince yourself that you're good.

This is pretty BM but honnestly, why would you make such a post?..


because it has fuckin helped me... TL.net helps u a lot sometimes... like I made a smurf account and have been following all the advices from everyone without takin it to the ass eve if they give me BM advice etc + Show Spoiler +
Im 20-1 so far but my biggest challenge will be against players my caliber, but I feel more calmed when playing and Im trying to understand the game better rather than spamming actions without knowin wtf im doing etc


Thanks every1
w/e
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
December 31 2008 17:00 GMT
#51
On December 30 2008 08:32 zXk3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2008 02:19 InfeSteD wrote:
Last thing, not to disrespect or anything but I never played you, zxk3, etc.. serious.. I would just mess around all the time.. the only time I played for reals was prolly the last games we played because u beat me in Monty or something, then again that is where my biggest problem comes from..


That wasnt called rly, you lost many points in my GM chart T-T, hopefully you can improve but seriously think better what are u doing, gl eddie (Hope we can play some time to see how serious can you play against me now)


sabes que es cierto.. soy mamon nomas y no soy bm

es como cuando el inControl me juega a mi.. el no me juega encerio nunk y todavia me ownea bien feo y si me lo dijera no me importaria nomas es la neta.. eso no tiene nada q ver -_-'
w/e
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 31 2008 18:12 GMT
#52
no I wasn't saying he was BM, but I beat him twice and he made some lame excuses each time rather than just saying GG
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
December 31 2008 18:43 GMT
#53
On January 01 2009 03:12 Xeris wrote:
no I wasn't saying he was BM, but I beat him twice and he made some lame excuses each time rather than just saying GG


This is how our game went...

88)iNfeSteD joins TerranDynamicS game..

TTerranDynamicS: hiyo, I remember you I beat you blah blah blah
P88)iNfeSteD: ??? whats ur aka.. who r u?

Game starts and he scouts me researching goon range.. when i kill his scouting scv I proceed to Anytime's build (citadel, templar, robotics) I expand really far away in the map while harassing and techin to arbiters after doing damage etc...
He had good macro but I end up winning the game due to arbiters and constant attacks
Before he leaves the game he dropped like 3 lines before he actually "gg'ed" (I guess at least he gged me) but he said that I caught him off guard with the tech and my far expansion etc..

So I imagined you would say something like that about him.. whats his highest rank btw? do u know him?
w/e
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