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skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-29 09:19:34
December 29 2008 09:09 GMT
#21
Please post reps....it would really clear up alot. Like one of each matchup would be good.
stiknork
Profile Joined August 2007
United States128 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-29 09:25:59
December 29 2008 09:25 GMT
#22
Josh Waitzkin (a chess grandmaster and Tai Chi professional) talks about "investment in loss" in The Art of Learning, which is a really good read. Basically, if your goal is to get really good, it helps to realize that losing is actually very helpful. While the goal of each individual game you play should be to win, your overall goal is to get better, and losing to a strong player is often more helpful than winning for improving your play. Once I realized that, it really helped me mass games without too much frustration from a streak of losses.
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-29 10:13:08
December 29 2008 10:12 GMT
#23
On December 29 2008 17:02 DanceCommander wrote:
I'm also a very emotional player... When I lose to stupid shit I get really angry and quit BW. I wish I could be jedi and not give a fuck... there really is no way to get over it, just tell yourself its just a game or just go make an alternate account and bash D noobs like i do

I know, its pathetic

Not to derail, but thats really annoying I just started playing SC again a week or two ago, and I'm probably better than I've ever been (aka, I'm D level instead of D-.. maybe. lol), and maybe 25-50% of the players I find myself up against are 250+APM people who just toy with me in a game I made with D/D- in the title. It can make gaming a bit discouraging

Then again its probably my fault that I keep playing in Korean time so half of my losses are to them.
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
December 29 2008 10:27 GMT
#24
I try to play in korean time as much as possible but I keep getting matched up against foreigners
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2936 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-29 10:45:03
December 29 2008 10:41 GMT
#25
Id say read Artosis' thing about the difference between foreigners and pros. From my experience of playing you, I have seen random strategy after random strategy emphasizing micro over macro to gain an advantage. If you play whatever pops into your head you will usually confuse the shit out of lower players, and maybe your hand speed and apm will increase, however your mechanics will never improve.

If you have never practiced basic play, or rarely do, then you will have trouble in a game where your opponent isn't psyched out by pew pew mass wraiths, 3 fact all-in, etc...

edit:
It also occurred to me that you off-race way to much.
Fuck KeSPA.
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
December 29 2008 11:20 GMT
#26
typical fag with bad attitude
will keep getting raped
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
sprawlers
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway439 Posts
December 29 2008 11:31 GMT
#27
you gotta stop noobbashing, not only will they suck up to you, (newsflash: noobs will always think you are really good when you rape them because it makes them feel better) but they will have bad enough timing that they make you get away with things you shouldn't, thus you get raped when you face someone better as you have made a flawed strategy part of your standard play. It sounds to me like you wont stop noobbashing even though you know thats whats needed, you know to get better you have to start losing but you would prefer a way to get good while beating up D+/C- players. It's like getting good beating the computer and won't happen.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
December 29 2008 11:48 GMT
#28
Taking me as an example since I'm a pretty good player I'd say. I can easily hit B+ with pure mechanics but what I'm lacking is game intelligence. Start to think more and decrease your apm. They will increase automatically with your thinking!

If there's certain things you are missing all the time, take a post it and put it on your monitor or something. When you think about all the things you need to do (because mistakes in starcraft are mostly forgetting things) you will play a lot better and you will automatically get faster.

Since you don't play much, you lack experience / routine. Thats what keeps you from getting better.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-29 12:01:59
December 29 2008 11:57 GMT
#29
can someone tell me if the TS is being sarcastic or am going insane. The posts starting from number 2 and on don't match up to what the question is being asked.

edit: okay i think i sort of get what the ts is saying. i just got up a moment ago and i'm dizzy and for some reason i thought the ts was bragging and then everyone was actually offering serious advice and i think i'm literally going batshit crazy.

anyway, post up some replays. maybe a few for better understanding.
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
December 29 2008 12:07 GMT
#30
You need more apm, because we all know: the higher the apm the better the player
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
December 29 2008 12:25 GMT
#31
On December 29 2008 17:07 InfeSteD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2008 17:02 DanceCommander wrote:
I'm also a very emotional player... When I lose to stupid shit I get really angry and quit BW. I wish I could be jedi and not give a fuck... there really is no way to get over it, just tell yourself its just a game or just go make an alternate account and bash D noobs like i do

I know, its pathetic


dude this is exactly what I DO LOL!

I love clearing my stats and bashing D noobs it makes me feel so goood =( its kinda sad




IMO this is really bad. The more of your gaming time you waste dicking around with people significantly below your level, the sloppier you will become. Bad players make bad decisions, so you get overly used to the idea of exploiting the bad habits of others and your sense of timing gets thrown way off.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Play
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia608 Posts
December 29 2008 13:44 GMT
#32
Put aside the Ma Jae Yoon Wannabe. Become who you were born to be.
jmascis
Bond(i2)
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada926 Posts
December 29 2008 13:56 GMT
#33
sounds like you should stop being immature and keep ur insults to urself after losing games. I found that if i used that anger to keep rematching i would eventually overcome w/e it was that was causing me to lose.
roses are red violets are blue, Im schitzophrenic and so am i
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
December 29 2008 15:03 GMT
#34
i wouldn't take apm into consideration here... i have constantly 160-180 apm. that means i have a lot more than most D players but i don't reach D+ T_T

so i guess your problem is not your apm but maybe a mix of greedyness and underastimation of other players.
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InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
December 29 2008 17:19 GMT
#35
Thank you guys for all the good advice and to the people saying shit like stop being immature after losses and insults? wtf are you guys talking about ? where does it say I insult and shit like that? I just mess around before games not after losing :S

like ShallOw[Bay] said, its before the games and Im just joking around Im really manner..

anyways, it has come to me that the biggest problem could be noob bashing and clearing my stats instead of keep mass gaming against people my caliber...that will probably get me farther and learn more.. kindof like Jumper]i[/Jumper[Light] , he is B- with like a 40% and Im lets say C- 80%> ... someone said this earlier and it makes a lot of sense. I need to put my fagget emotions aside and play like a man

to Oshi, I only emphasize micro at the beggining of the game to "gain an advantage, then exploit it and turn the game into a rape" (iloveoov style) he is my hero..
I also offrace way too much T_T Im gonna stick with T... is it okay to offrace vs T ? or would u recommend becoming a yumbosung at tvt =)
Last thing, not to disrespect or anything but I never played you, zxk3, etc.. serious.. I would just mess around all the time.. the only time I played for reals was prolly the last games we played because u beat me in Monty or something, then again that is where my biggest problem comes from..

Something else that just came to my mind... thx to this comment

On December 29 2008 17:55 nevake wrote:
If you can't mass game, then your knowledge isn't increasing enough. You're not going against enough scenarios to know the perfect reaction to everything, something that higher level players have done.


I know I have a lot of knowledge about the game, like really really deep.. I just cant put it to play because my apm doesnt show in my mechanics.. Im throwing away my actions in less important things such as microing vultures NaDa style and such.. I have noticed I play better against Koreans than foreigners a lot of times.. is it because a lot of foreigners dont follow the proscene and their strategys and game flow is different from what Im expecting it to be? after watching proscene etc?
w/e
vhallee
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
899 Posts
December 29 2008 17:34 GMT
#36
@OP: if you find the cure to what you described, please PM me cause i got the same fucking problems
Marijuana causes amnesia and other things I don't remember.
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
December 29 2008 18:25 GMT
#37
On December 30 2008 02:34 vhallee wrote:
@OP: if you find the cure to what you described, please PM me cause i got the same fucking problems


I will for sure... i am going to give it a one month trial.. smurfing on iccup without caring about stats and trying to lower my apm and focus more on strat and game sense and see if it gets better
w/e
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2356 Posts
December 29 2008 19:50 GMT
#38
On December 29 2008 19:27 skyglow1 wrote:
I try to play in korean time as much as possible but I keep getting matched up against foreigners



i have the same problem... i can beat B koreans, but i cant beat C foreigners rofl...
ἡ τῆς Νεμέσεως τάξις
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
December 29 2008 20:05 GMT
#39
You're a dick.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
zXk3
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Mexico1178 Posts
December 29 2008 23:32 GMT
#40
On December 30 2008 02:19 InfeSteD wrote:
Last thing, not to disrespect or anything but I never played you, zxk3, etc.. serious.. I would just mess around all the time.. the only time I played for reals was prolly the last games we played because u beat me in Monty or something, then again that is where my biggest problem comes from..


That wasnt called rly, you lost many points in my GM chart T-T, hopefully you can improve but seriously think better what are u doing, gl eddie (Hope we can play some time to see how serious can you play against me now)
GraphicsNo soy dominante, solo tengo mejores ideas...| Sorry Oshi, 4-1 shows that im better than you =D i wont do any more mistakes now
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