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Katowice25012 Posts
lol at them using oblivion in a casual game
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Why would you never speak to them again? That would be more immature than them using hacks in the first place. You should forgive them and move on, criticize them and make sure they don't use it, but move on.
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They better have been the 1 in that 1v3 else that's just sad...
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Did you win regardless? Make fun of them for losing while hacking.
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
Well, not never but for a while.. I'm just so offended right now I don't know what to do =/
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
wolf he's being sarcastic you idiot
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
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On December 04 2008 15:23 heyoka wrote: lol at them using oblivion in a TEAM MELEE GAME
Fixed.
Also, wow if they really need to do that then they are very bad. Either way though it's all just for fun right? I mean, if you lost and they won with Oblivion then they'd still know they couldn't even beat you in a 3v1 TM game without hacks. And if you won they'd know they can't even beat you in a 3v1 TM game WITH hacks!
Haha x7 ninjaed... People post fast here. =D
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On December 04 2008 15:25 Psyonic_Reaver wrote: Did you win regardless? Make fun of them for losing while hacking. I lost 2 games where I went reaver because they sniped my shuttle. I won every other time though
End score was like 3-2 for me or something
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NEVER SPEAK TO THEM AGAIN!
THEY DO NOT DESERVE ANOTHER CHANCE!
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Destroy their computers.
That or kill them all in their sleep.
Srsly though, who cares, it wasnt like this was ladder play
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
rofl they're all good friends of mine and I definitely overreacted to them but seriously, hacking in a casual TMM game is seriously wtf =/
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Why use a maphack in a fucking friendly team melee game? Retards.
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On December 04 2008 15:24 Superiorwolf wrote: Why would you never speak to them again? That would be more immature than them using hacks in the first place. You should forgive them and move on, criticize them and make sure they don't use it, but move on.
^^ Just move on. It may have been a one time thing if they never have before.
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You are destroying their self esteem, and that is why they have resorted to hacking to beat you. Now, the situation you have put yourself in is very slippery to escape. You can either accept their apologies and never look at the same way at them again, or refuse to play with them altogether and do something else to mend the uneasy relationship you have now created. Good luck. Only you can prevent forest fires.
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You shouldn't take this too seriously, just tell them casually and ask jokingly if they hacked although you know the answer. And then just ask them to stop
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
man if my roomies were using hacks against me in a casual game secretly i would feel like they are complementing me and use it to make fun of them forever
oh man why would you get mad LOL
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
tell them that next time they feel like they need to have vision to have fun in a casual game that you'll happily give them vision with the in-game options.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
i think he's just appalled at the fact that they did it rather than mad.
shocked, rather than enraged.
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
yeah I tend to overreact a lot =(
In a week, I'll be making jokes about it and stuff but for now, I'll just wait and see
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Did you win with Oblivion on?
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
yeah haji, that's the word haha
If they came up to me and asked me to give them vision as a challenge, I would've done it for sure since I beat them regularly even 1v3 TMM. I'm just angry (shocked?) that they resorted to hacking ~_~
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
pretty easy to imagine what it was like, since hacking is such a huge taboo for us.
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On December 04 2008 15:40 SpiralArchitect wrote: Did you win with Oblivion on? It was 3-2 I won twice by going DT, won again when they 2 gate zealot rushed me and I countered with DTs after defending. I lost twice when I went reavers because they got sniped by some magical army positioning *wink wink* *nudge nudge*
On December 04 2008 15:45 Corinthos wrote: Jesung get them to 1v1 you. They stopped trying after I beat them with every single race with the most ridiculous handicaps like no keyboard (not even the a button )
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Haji probably has the best advice so far. Let them have vis if they're going to be reduced to using hacks.
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Russian Federation386 Posts
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
this just made me realize that 1v3 TM style TMM could be really fun
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This happened to my other friend. I had a group of 5 friends including me and we used to like go to the pc room straight after school and just play sc. One of my friend when he first started was pretty bad but he played a shitload and got pretty decent really fast and actually went like from worse to best in our group. Than one day he sent me reps of him vs the former best where he lost pretty bad and i realize the other guy used oblivion. I even made a thread about it on tl. Really shocked me because it was just a casual game even though i wasnt the one who got hacked.
If they are your rl friends just forgive them. Talk to them about it but dont overreact like not speaking to them ever or something. When i first found out my friend hacked i was about to talk to him about it but i realized it wasnt my business and let the two figure it out themselves. The guy who got hacked though took it way better than me.
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it's a game man...don't worry too much about it. if it were someone i knew online, i would ignore them and stuff, but roommate/floormate/friend whatever, I would just let it go.
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On December 04 2008 15:34 Rekrul wrote: man if my roomies were using hacks against me in a casual game secretly i would feel like they are complementing me and use it to make fun of them forever
oh man why would you get mad LOL
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HAHa YOU LOST TO ME EVEN WITH OBLIVION ON!!!
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On December 04 2008 15:58 eX-Corgh wrote: Kill their pets ^^ That's so cruel, why would you ever do that? 
On December 04 2008 16:05 Ilikestarcraft wrote: This happened to my other friend. I had a group of 5 friends including me and we used to like go to the pc room straight after school and just play sc. One of my friend when he first started was pretty bad but he played a shitload and got pretty decent really fast and actually went like from worse to best in our group. Than one day he sent me reps of him vs the former best where he lost pretty bad and i realize the other guy used oblivion. I even made a thread about it on tl. Really shocked me because it was just a casual game even though i wasnt the one who got hacked.
If they are your rl friends just forgive them. Talk to them about it but dont overreact like not speaking to them ever or something. When i first found out my friend hacked i was about to talk to him about it but i realized it wasnt my business and let the two figure it out themselves. The guy who got hacked though took it way better than me. Yeah I'll apologize to them for overreacting tomorrow. For them, hacking's just something fun to do and they didn't have any ill intentions (they explained this to me but I was still in a state of shock to respond gracefully).
But seeing as how hacking is a huuge nono for me, I just lost it when it happened (not quite literally, I still did win overall )
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On December 04 2008 15:47 infinity21 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2008 15:40 SpiralArchitect wrote: Did you win with Oblivion on? It was 3-2 I won twice by going DT, won again when they 2 gate zealot rushed me and I countered with DTs after defending. I lost twice when I went reavers because they got sniped by some magical army positioning *wink wink* *nudge nudge* They stopped trying after I beat them with every single race with the most ridiculous handicaps like no keyboard (not even the a button )
LOL now that's brutal
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On December 04 2008 16:17 EtherealDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2008 15:47 infinity21 wrote:On December 04 2008 15:40 SpiralArchitect wrote: Did you win with Oblivion on? It was 3-2 I won twice by going DT, won again when they 2 gate zealot rushed me and I countered with DTs after defending. I lost twice when I went reavers because they got sniped by some magical army positioning *wink wink* *nudge nudge* On December 04 2008 15:45 Corinthos wrote: Jesung get them to 1v1 you. They stopped trying after I beat them with every single race with the most ridiculous handicaps like no keyboard (not even the a button ) LOL now that's brutal
I played 1v1 with my friend using mouse only. It was hilarious.
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On December 04 2008 15:28 meRz wrote:
Why use a maphack in a fucking friendly team melee game? Retards.
It's better to use it in a game that doesn't matter than one that actually matters for something. I probably would have laughed if I was in that situation.
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United States7166 Posts
i agree with rekrul. my guess is they probably didnt think it was a big deal, or didnt think it would piss you off like this. they are really desperate to win, and feel humiliated that they cannot beat you with 3 vs 1
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1. How do you check for oblivion in a replay? 2. Aren't TM replays broken and corrupt? 3. I've noticed that the antihack plugin from chaos reports lots of hacks when you play TM. Hopefully this isn't what they have been judged by.
If they really did hack, that's just low.
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Oh and infinity, similar story, except I found the hacks on his computer:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=75367
^^;; I didn't say anything to my cousin, but rather straight up owned him in a PC bang when we went to the beach a few weeks later. It was funny because I knew he was going to be crap without his hackssss! :D
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On December 04 2008 18:52 stenole wrote: 1. How do you check for oblivion in a replay? 2. Aren't TM replays broken and corrupt? 3. I've noticed that the antihack plugin from chaos reports lots of hacks when you play TM. Hopefully this isn't what they have been judged by.
If they really did hack, that's just low.
1. I'm not sure, but the easiest way is to catch them using the automining function. It's pretty obvious if you check on BWChart when the player creates the peon, and commands split the first 5 milliseconds or something. Oblivion has that function
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So in other words: BUSTED!
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Netherlands6142 Posts
Dont make a big deal out of it. I remember a couple of weeks ago, my mate got this party game Little Big World (?? I dunno, but it has Stephen Fry -> instawin) where you basically platform your way around a couple of levels team style. So at this one point I find out that the right analog stick control your character's right arm and I continue to focus my attention on slapping my teammates off of the platform and in to the hot boiling lava of instant deathination below. It just happens among friends man xD All fun n games. Oh yer and the other week we were playing Fifa and we were leading 5-0 or something so the other guys tried to get 5 red cards so the game would be annuled (final score 3-0) so we just ran off and kept kicking the ball off field. Oh so very childish but not a big deal if you're among friends.
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Who the fuck cares...?
Seriously, RL > SC...
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Rape them hackers while they are asleep!
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life is too short to not to forgive
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
Wow, so many of you guys are mean. :o 60% votes for never talk to them again hahaha
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couple months later:
them: "we need your help!!~ we're getting pwnz0rssd!!" you: "sorry homies, your hacks can't save you now" them: "wat?! NOOOooooOOOOOooooooooooooo"
edit: oh yeah, same thing happened with my friends a while back. i didn't mind as much at the time because i wasn't educated in how big of a taboo it was. i just thought that "well, i can see the whole map with my 22 observers... so we're about equal"
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Hacking is lame period and should equal an instant whoop ass. :/ I see nothing beneficial cheating because you gain nothing in the end.
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On December 05 2008 02:03 infinity21 wrote: Wow, so many of you guys are mean. :o 60% votes for never talk to them again hahaha
thats just the hacking taboo, not many actually mean it
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I would laugh really hard at this, who cares. They're your friends, it's a friendly game. I thought that's what friends are for, just messing around and shit.
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How do you win 1 vs 3? That just seems impossible to me.
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On December 05 2008 02:45 Solinren wrote: How do you win 1 vs 3? That just seems impossible to me.
its team melee
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I think it's much more fun when there's a challenge. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside when people use hacks to beat me. Then when you beat them and it's like, "Yo, what's up now? Huh? Huh?"
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Loooong ago when I was in middle school, my older brother was a way better player than me and would always beat me. But one day I found maphacks and used it against him in a 1v1 and beasted him for the first time 3-0.
He quickly came up stairs from his room to my room and saw that I was using map hacks and continued to beat the shit outta me.
From then on I NEVER used map hacks ever again...
So the moral of this story Infinity is that... if you beat the shit out of them, then they'll stop using maphacks for sure. TRY IT!
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On December 05 2008 02:46 Frits wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2008 02:45 Solinren wrote: How do you win 1 vs 3? That just seems impossible to me. its team melee
Whats the difference
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
I wish people felt they had to use oblivion vs me LOL
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On December 05 2008 03:01 StarN wrote: Loooong ago when I was in middle school, my older brother was a way better player than me and would always beat me. But one day I found maphacks and used it against him in a 1v1 and beasted him for the first time 3-0.
He quickly came up stairs from his room to my room and saw that I was using map hacks and continued to beat the shit outta me.
From then on I NEVER used map hacks ever again...
So the moral of this story Infinity is that... if you beat the shit out of them, then they'll stop using maphacks for sure. TRY IT! This seems like a reasonable course of action. Physical violence is the best detterent I think.
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On December 05 2008 03:01 Solinren wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2008 02:46 Frits wrote:On December 05 2008 02:45 Solinren wrote: How do you win 1 vs 3? That just seems impossible to me. its team melee Whats the difference
Team melee is when you're playing the same player with multiple guys, so imagine you doing all the micro and someone else all the macro. It's still 1v1 in terms of units but the other team has the advantage of being able to do more stuff, provided they work well together.
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Sweden33719 Posts
I think if they did it for any reason other than as a joke, it's retarded. I don't know if it's worth caring about but still retarded.
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How can you win a 1v3 is beyond me. Imagine 3 protoss, 2 of them 4 gating while one is going reaver/dt drop. No way you can survive that if they time it. Actually you can take any race, just have 2 going heavy pressure on the start and one teching.
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
it's TM, not melee  they can beat me even 2v1 in melee
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Move out; it's your only option now.
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CHrist, really? You bitched them out for hacking in some game that they are noobs at and don't give a shit about?
Maybe if they wanted to competitive good players it would be sort of ok to get mad at them hacking, but some noobs playing a 10 year old game that they'll never be anything close to decent at for fun...kind of stupid to get legitimately angry over a damn game.
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This is a serious topic. This.. is actually a serious topic. Wow.
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lol who cares! even if someone hacks against you in a serious game it's not that big of a deal, unless you guys had money riding on this game, in which case that's just bastardly, but since you didn't it doesn't matter
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Dude get on their computer and mess with it as revenge (I don't know set the language to Spanish or something. I always do that to my friend's cellphone when I get pissed.)
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