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SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
November 24 2008 17:16 GMT
#61
I think that there has to be a very fine balance of the two because both are equally important to a successful song. But I also think that I can enjoy a piece of music without understanding the language, though it isn't the same type of joy as someone who takes something away from the content of the lyrics.
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-24 17:48:06
November 24 2008 17:38 GMT
#62
But dont say that Soulja boy or Wayne are better if you don't even try to get a translation of the lyrics.
Seriously you are so ignorant and rude.


Rolf
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fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 24 2008 18:06 GMT
#63
before we start going any further I would just like to point out the rappers who sang at MSL finals are really respected artists in Korea (they made some great songs)

but their performance was so fucking bad
my god.
dats racist
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
November 24 2008 18:20 GMT
#64
On November 25 2008 03:06 MrHoon wrote:
before we start going any further I would just like to point out the rappers who sang at MSL finals are really respected artists in Korea (they made some great songs)

but their performance was so fucking bad
my god.


who performed?
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 24 2008 18:36 GMT
#65
On November 25 2008 03:20 clazziquai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2008 03:06 MrHoon wrote:
before we start going any further I would just like to point out the rappers who sang at MSL finals are really respected artists in Korea (they made some great songs)

but their performance was so fucking bad
my god.


who performed?

Dynamic Duo, one of their last performances before the army
dats racist
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
November 24 2008 19:31 GMT
#66
On November 25 2008 02:38 Boblion wrote:
But dont say that Soulja boy or Wayne are better if you don't even try to get a translation of the lyrics.
Seriously you are so ignorant and rude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vum3qgoh0x4&feature=related

Rolf
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Quit insulting me for my musical opinion jesus fucking christ. I LIKE IT MORE! GO SHOOT YOURSELF NOW PLZ! You must realize by now this argument will never go anywhere because we are both set on our particular opinions. I still stand by the fact that I dont need to understand lyrics to enjoy music. I dont even understand half of what Lil Wayne says for the love of God, fuck I couldnt even understand Zach De La Rocha live half the time, didnt ruin my fun at all.
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
November 24 2008 19:55 GMT
#67
spiralarchitect you're an idiot.

that fact is derived from the internet aspect of you because i can't access the real life you, but i'll happily apply that generalization to the entire you.
Hates Fun🤔
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
November 24 2008 20:01 GMT
#68
Sorry for not liking a Korean rap song. I have seen the error of my ways and will now look up the translation to every song I ever listen to.
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-24 20:45:54
November 24 2008 20:45 GMT
#69
it's obviously not just about korean songs. it's about how you're so adamant in your superficial glance being superior to any opinions that consider so many more aspects of the subject than you do. and yes, some opinions are better than others, and i'd rather stand behind someone who can understand both english and korean lyrics than someone who can only understand one. (although i do admit the glaring ignorance from some of the posters on american rap or hip-hop is -_-;;;; )
Hates Fun🤔
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
November 24 2008 21:12 GMT
#70
Well my entire point was that I can enjoy a song without understanding the language. My judgment was based upon those aspects of the song which I can understand and I actually said I enjoyed the song at first, which was immediately followed by a storm of people saying I couldnt form an opinion without understanding the language. I never said my opinion was superior to others, in fact I think it was quite the opposite as most of the posts insulting me said there was no way to enjoy music without understanding the language.
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
Insane Lane
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States397 Posts
November 24 2008 21:15 GMT
#71
This thread was made for English speakers to broaden their horizons and learn about Korean rap. Thus, the target audience is like SpiralArchitect states, where they can only enjoy Korean hiphop because of its beats. Now all you Korean speakers suddenly busting in this thread and saying that we're all ignorant for not caring about the Korean songs' lyricism, well screw you. Just because you can understand the lyrics doesn't mean that we have to in order to pass judgement on whether we like the song or not.

Beat is very important in rap. When people casually listen to a rap song, the first thing they notice is the beat. It lays the foundation for the whole entire song's success. That is why there are so many critically acclaimed producers and DJs in the hiphop scene. It isn't just about the lyrics, and if you want pure rap poetry listen to Saul Williams. Otherwise, listen to these Korean songs that have been posted and consider that most of the enjoyment you get out of it is from the beat and flow.
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
November 24 2008 23:45 GMT
#72
^ Thank you.
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-25 00:52:50
November 25 2008 00:51 GMT
#73
On November 24 2008 06:16 SpiralArchitect wrote:
Jesus Christ how can anyone even think that Korean Hip Hop is remotely close to the level of Hip Hop in the United States. Soulja Boy and Little Wayne are a thousand times better than any Korean Hip Hop I have ever heard, and I hate both of them. Despite my hatred for them they utilize the current popular styles of Hip Hop to A) Make them money and B) Make chicks ass' shake. Besides that the music is what Hip Hop is right now.

That was really rude. The argument started here. You have somewhat clarified the situation so we cant top here.
But next time don't make statements like this. Say "in my opinion"...
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
November 25 2008 00:57 GMT
#74
My language was rather coarse I agree. But the basic idea of that post has nothing to do with what you tried to say I was being ignorant about. Thank you for citing on paragraph of a four paragraph post, taking only my opinion and not any of the facts I used to back it up. Besides the first sentence still rings true, how could anyone even think that? Thats like saying Euro leagues compare to the NBA.
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
November 25 2008 01:04 GMT
#75
alright everybody stop arguing x_x

If you dont like it, don't listen, if you do, go ahead.

If anyone wants to keep going, do share =) i've actually not heard a lot of these new songs people posted, and i'll say they're a good bunch of songs.

my favourite song since I've started to listen to Brother Ali

Brother Ali - Rain Water



blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-25 01:35:33
November 25 2008 01:29 GMT
#76
On November 25 2008 09:57 SpiralArchitect wrote:
My language was rather coarse I agree. But the basic idea of that post has nothing to do with what you tried to say I was being ignorant about. Thank you for citing on paragraph of a four paragraph post, taking only my opinion and not any of the facts I used to back it up. Besides the first sentence still rings true, how could anyone even think that? Thats like saying Euro leagues compare to the NBA.

Jesus i can't stand it anymore. Why are you THINKING THAT YOUR OWN OPINION IS BETTER WHEN YOU CAN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE SAYING ??
AND WHY WE HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU ???
ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BEAT ?
BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK AND NOT ASIAN ?
BECAUSE RAP STARTED IN THE US ?

Soulja boy better ? No thanks. I have the right to disagree ?

With the same kind of stupid statements i can say that all the American writers, or painters are utter crap because " HEY LULZ EUROPEAN PEOPLE STARTED IT AND I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND ENGLISH LolOLOL".

You want me to name Z- class French soccer players and say that they are better than any American soccer player just because soccer is more popular here and because indeed our A team seems stronger ?

/ignore you are so ignorant, rude and arrogant.

fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
November 25 2008 03:00 GMT
#77
On November 25 2008 10:29 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2008 09:57 SpiralArchitect wrote:
My language was rather coarse I agree. But the basic idea of that post has nothing to do with what you tried to say I was being ignorant about. Thank you for citing on paragraph of a four paragraph post, taking only my opinion and not any of the facts I used to back it up. Besides the first sentence still rings true, how could anyone even think that? Thats like saying Euro leagues compare to the NBA.

Jesus i can't stand it anymore. Why are you THINKING THAT YOUR OWN OPINION IS BETTER WHEN YOU CAN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE SAYING ??
AND WHY WE HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU ???
ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BEAT ?
BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK AND NOT ASIAN ?
BECAUSE RAP STARTED IN THE US ?

Soulja boy better ? No thanks. I have the right to disagree ?

With the same kind of stupid statements i can say that all the American writers, or painters are utter crap because " HEY LULZ EUROPEAN PEOPLE STARTED IT AND I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND ENGLISH LolOLOL".

You want me to name Z- class French soccer players and say that they are better than any American soccer player just because soccer is more popular here and because indeed our A team seems stronger ?

/ignore you are so ignorant, rude and arrogant.


You are doing the exact same thing to me, I stated my opinion of the music which you then proceeded to flame me for because I said I judged it without understanding the language. I never said that my opinion is better than yours I merely said I have the right to enjoy music without understanding the language, and you shouldnt be all up on my ass about it. You came into this ball game at half time and started flaming me off a reply I made to clazzi. I really dont see anywhere that I said your opinion sucks or that mine is better even, I really dont think you should be berating me for enjoying music.

The first thing you got all hot and bothered about was me calling the music crap because of the language, I never did that. Then you got all pissed because I said I can enjoy music just fine without understanding the lyrics, my opinion not yours. You then proceeded to FORCE your opinion on my stating that I was ignorant for not learning the lyrics of songs I enjoy. I fail to see where you get off telling me I dont enjoy music that I clearly do.

You came into this whole thing without any idea of what my original post was stating or what it even meant. You took one statement which you found particularly offensive for some reason and took it to the level of flaming me for it. If anyone has forced their opinion, or thinks theirs is superior than another, it is you. God sometimes I really hate the French.

+ Show Spoiler +
That was a joke btw

TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
November 25 2008 03:03 GMT
#78


<3
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
Flying_Llama
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada419 Posts
November 25 2008 05:05 GMT
#79
i agree some of waynes beats are pretty good and the souljah boi ones are kinda catchy but what ruins it is the lyrics or subject they rap about (and i fucking hate waynes raspy voice)

imo, id rather listen to the korean songs and not know wtf they are raping abt than listen to the mainstream US stuff abt gangs money and girls.

beat wise i think the korean songs posted here and wayne's beats are kinda equal but one is better than the other depending on the mood ure in

but the lyrics just plain makes it shit

thus posted korean rap posted here>wayne/souljah boi
Oe
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1 Post
March 11 2009 14:20 GMT
#80
Opinions opinions, opinions are like assholes...everyone's gotta have one!

The original 3 songs are aight! I definitely appreciate the post for helping me expand my mind about korean hip hop.

Korean rap better than American rap! That won't happen in our life times. But then again..Our president is Black!

Korean hip hop is nice to listen to for this one reason....every word can be 1 syllable. You can do alot with the word play. But realisticaly...most of the music is borrowed from american hip hop. Society in korea at the moment won't allow korean lyrics to be deeper than american hiphop. That's just not possible. I could get into this but I wont...
If you can really understand both cultures to a point where you can compare and contrast them both...You would understand that socially speaking, Koreans aren'tas open minded and exposed to enough ideas as we are in america. I will say this tho...Korean hip hop with everything else koreans try hard to do, have vastly improved in such a short amount of time. Who knows what 10 years may bring.
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