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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-18 00:37:18
November 18 2008 00:27 GMT
#1
General opinion

So it's been fun playing some Starcraft again after a 3year hiatus. I've made C+ in a few days. I was pretty sick all week so I just spent a lot of time playing Starcraft and being on IRC and stuff. It's been fun playing Starcraft.

The games are getting a bit harder right now but still quite easy for the most part. One thing to add though: I SUCK vs Zerg. I still hate ZvZ so I play TvZ but suddenly everyone microes muta's like a god which is really frustrating to play against lol. I haven't run into many really good z players except one Korean with like 55-30 stats (C+). I killed his gas natural on Andromeda with some 3 rax rushing but it still went to a pretty close game. He still had another gas expo on the other side of the map though.

One other thing is that almost everyone quick expands nowadays. No-one seems to play onebase style anymore. Against protoss it's really easy to play imo. You can adjust so well to what they are doing and just start macroing at the correct moment. Although it was still easier to play against 1 base protosses lol.

Some games from today

So there was this game in the gamelist. Some guy was asking for C+, B-, B, B+ while he was B so why not. Turned out that this guy was 70-4. He had the sickest macro I ever played against, so siiick. He made a shitload of cannons even and I couldn't even do anything. He just went standard quick expand and afterwards he teched up to speed zealots, ranged goons, obs, 3 forges and a frightening number of 11 gates. In 15 minutes he was up to 3-2-2 upgrades and just steamrolled me.

Here is the rep, maybe someone can find out who that is haha.

Replay

I also made a replay pack for those interested.

Replaypack

Especially the last wingame is a huge rapegame =]. My skill level probably increased loads because of some rustiness disappearing after some games.

Link to my account:

My account

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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 18 2008 00:32 GMT
#2
That guy does sound sick... I will have to check out that rep O_O
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
November 18 2008 00:38 GMT
#3
Nice to see old gamers getting back to play
I still remember a game against you some years ago (maybe 2003 or 2004, i don't really know). It was one of the first tournaments i played and i got to play against you in round 1. I was very bad back then and got pretty exicted to play someone known like you.
So the game started TvZ on blue storm and i somehow managed to bunker rush you and kill your natural expansion. Really happy that i was in such a good position the game went on and you came back with lurker drops and mass ultras later on. :D
aka DTF-ZeRo
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
November 18 2008 00:40 GMT
#4
Nice to see you playing again!

40-7 after a long time...Goddamn :O
SkepTicAL
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada872 Posts
November 18 2008 00:40 GMT
#5
TOT)TWISTED( GOGO!
AeriALsLighT @AerialsLight
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
November 18 2008 00:41 GMT
#6
blue storm wasn't out until like 2007 do you mean blade storm ?
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IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
November 18 2008 00:42 GMT
#7
oh lol yeah, blade storm^^
aka DTF-ZeRo
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
November 18 2008 00:44 GMT
#8
you still own, nice play Twisted
Rayzorblade
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1172 Posts
November 18 2008 00:52 GMT
#9
thanks for the pack Twisted.

really cool of you and good luck with ICCuping! :D
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-18 00:55:39
November 18 2008 00:54 GMT
#10
I watched that replay, it seems if you didn't attack but just waited you coulda won because he didnt take a third and made 11 gates off 2 bases. He also didnt use storm so maybe just lurk containing while stalling to outmass him lategame could work. His macro was very good though.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
November 18 2008 01:00 GMT
#11
wow, that toss went almost entirely pure goon / zlot
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-18 01:51:38
November 18 2008 01:02 GMT
#12
It looks like he stops building probes when he gets to about 2.5 per patch. Obviously premeditated all-in, because he did not expect to need to transfer probes later. 2.5 is pretty much ideal, although 3 would be completely saturated, your gains aren't increased very much at this number.

A very smart player, to be sure. Not many people think about this. This is what enabled him to spend so much money on army.

EDIT: He got EXACTLY 50 probes :O 16 patches plus 3 probes per geyser, 42/16 :O Hummmm... lol.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
November 18 2008 01:02 GMT
#13
Cool blog, thanks for the rep pack. I always thought that you were way too godly to quit sc.. I guess this kinda proves it if you are inactive for like 2-3 years and still easily go 40-7
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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
November 18 2008 01:25 GMT
#14
Hm.. yeah I hsouldn't have attacked with the 6 lurker + 36 ling, but I underestimated his army and wanted to stop his third expand.

I'm pretty sure he was just dicking around playing without temps and without expanding actually. Just wanted to kill me quickly by making a SHITload of units haha.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
November 18 2008 01:27 GMT
#15
I don't care if he was dicking around, I'm copying it It's like one base mentality with fast expand.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
November 18 2008 01:28 GMT
#16
Your games are very entertaining, i like your zvp .

Also holy fuck @ that protoss, he made like 50 cannons and literally made mass zeal/goon and a-moved your army constantly.. (he actually a-moved, he had no storm)
sAviOr...
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
November 18 2008 01:37 GMT
#17
yeah he was def messing around. i'd like to see some serious games from that toss
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
TopGear
Profile Joined November 2005
United Kingdom796 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-18 01:40:24
November 18 2008 01:39 GMT
#18
wtf @ that protoss! he didnt even ATTEMPT to make a 3rd.. wow. im so trying that out too.

EDIT: no storm either.. :o
ThE_OsToJiY
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada1167 Posts
November 18 2008 01:46 GMT
#19
http://www.iccup.com/iccmatchlist/431186/1x1/page1/

Nice abuse there O_O

He also had 15 cannons over 2 bases 9 minutes in. Thats ridiculous.
@ostojiy
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
November 18 2008 01:51 GMT
#20
On November 18 2008 10:46 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
http://www.iccup.com/iccmatchlist/431186/1x1/page1/

Nice abuse there O_O

He also had 15 cannons over 2 bases 9 minutes in. Thats ridiculous.

yeah i was just about to say...
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