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ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
October 23 2008 18:27 GMT
#41
On October 23 2008 21:45 Hawk wrote:
PLay source, it's better

better yet, play tf2

srsly play tf2, such a badass game. especially if u smoke i swear i'm like the ghandi of tf2 when im high.
everliving, everfaithful, eversure
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32106 Posts
October 23 2008 19:01 GMT
#42
im getting a new comp so i can experience the game in more than the current 15~ fps i average now. im going to be even more awesome of a spy
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
-slo.m1ke-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Slovenia352 Posts
October 23 2008 19:15 GMT
#43
CS is utter crap. If RTCW: ET didn't die after the release of ET:QUAKE WARS (utter crap too) then np.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
October 23 2008 19:44 GMT
#44
Bit off topic but since everyone else is talking about TF in a CS thread...

TF2 is fun but very different from team fortress classic. Team fortress forever is a source mod that's a good remake. Check it out.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32106 Posts
October 23 2008 19:47 GMT
#45
Yeah I've heard about it. I liked the original, but TF2 is so damn fun. That cartoony-theme is so awesome; I think that's what makes it stand apart for me.
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 23 2008 19:51 GMT
#46
On October 24 2008 01:00 D00dles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2008 19:54 H_ wrote:
Are you kidding? CS is still wildly popular. The pro scene is populated, the tournaments still happen. CS:S is only slightly more popular. Shit, just look at this, it's all the proof you need.

[image loading]


Your 1.6 buddies are.. not well-informed.

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

Hell, go look at Gotfrag's "prize money" section, there's still hundreds of thousands of dollars worldwide being poured into the game.


Steam bugged the stats so that's only the USA's 1.6 stats whilst that's pretty much source being played over the world..

CS might be dying but source is dying just as quickly if not more so.

Before steam decided to take the stats part down and then bug it... it was like CS 1.6 current players playing 300,000 whilst for source it was like 60,000.

Then steam took 1.6 off the stats page then bugged it.

It's actually worse than that because the Source numbers include bots, 1.6 numbers don't.

Source was garbage from the beginning and still is. I would fucking love to play Sudden Attack in the US.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
October 23 2008 20:10 GMT
#47
its nowhere near dead, but it is dying
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Jizz
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia224 Posts
October 23 2008 20:30 GMT
#48
On October 24 2008 01:38 sqwert wrote:
cs will never die. its too fun. they still have it in wcg.


they have guitar hero too
I made this account before i knew what the name meant. I just thought it sounded coooool
LinkinPork
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada223 Posts
October 23 2008 20:54 GMT
#49
1.6 is much more alive in Europe.

Here in North America, most of the big teams switched to Source after signing some deal with CGS. High-level 1.6 in North America is dead compared to what we had in 2002-2005. You can still find scrims easily though for CAL-o - CAL-m level.
Jizz
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia224 Posts
October 23 2008 21:35 GMT
#50
its still big in sweden because sweden is like the korea of CS.
I made this account before i knew what the name meant. I just thought it sounded coooool
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-23 23:51:35
October 23 2008 21:56 GMT
#51
On October 24 2008 04:15 -slo.m1ke- wrote:
CS is utter crap. If RTCW: ET didn't die after the release of ET:QUAKE WARS (utter crap too) then np.

RTCW: ET was a great multiplayer FPS, I'll agree with you on that.

But CS is not utter crap, and neither is Quake Wars. CS is a great game, it has lasted so long with it's simple, yet deep gameplay.
Quake Wars, on the other hand is extremely underrated because all the realism nubs expected slow gameplay. Instead it perfectly incorporated a fast-paced style of gameplay with a brilliant class system.

If you want some new FPS, try:
-CoD4 and CoD5 (when it's out)
-Team Fortress 2
-Enemy Territory: Quake Wars
-Warsow

Of course, it depends if you like pubbing or not. If you are looking for a competitive team, just try to stick with CS, or go for CoD4, Quake Live, or Warsow.
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-23 23:48:43
October 23 2008 23:46 GMT
#52
Didn't read all the posts in the thread yet, but the game is not dead. There are still plenty of CS 1.6 tournaments throughout the world that professional teams play in such as:

- WCG
- ESWC
- WEG/E-Stars Seoul/WEM
- Intel Extreme Masters
- GameGune
- Dreamhack

CS 1.6 is sort of dead in countries like the United States, China, and Korea. Most of the American pro teams went to CGS, China is more into WC3/WoW/other now, and Korea is into StarCraft and Korean made FPS games. One thing that doesn't make sense is why do Koreans make so many FPS games that are pretty much the same? Sudden Attack, Special Force (American version for iiji is Soldier Front), Black Shot, A.V.A, Combat Arms, and now Counter-Strike: Online?

Also Valve is known to put up fake stats of their games to show that there is almost an equal amount of CS 1.6 and CSS players, but that is false. Before Valve edited the game stats, CS 1.6 has at least 3x more players than CSS. Valve seriously needs to stop with the pointless updates to their games that causes you to either lag out or crash and they should fix CSS at least.
demo1
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada145 Posts
October 23 2008 23:57 GMT
#53
im a frequent player of cs:s. it seems "easier" than cs 1.6 but i don't know much to begin with. i use cs to relieve stress lol.
yeyeyey
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 01:26:24
October 24 2008 01:24 GMT
#54
On October 24 2008 08:57 demo1 wrote:
im a frequent player of cs:s. it seems "easier" than cs 1.6 but i don't know much to begin with. i use cs to relieve stress lol.



-Heads are humongous compared to 1.6
-Flashbangs no longer semi-blind when you turn around (veterans know what i'm talking about), they only full blind.
-strange hitboxes


The sad part is that if you join a cs 1.6 deathmatch or server the average person is decent yet the people in source cannot hit another person who is standing right next to them even though its an easier game.


source in general sucks. CS: Source is ok but not as good as the original. DOD:Source is in my opinion crap compared to the original Day of Defeat.

TF2 though is awesome fun especially when you do competetive fighting 6v6s to 8v8s
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Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
October 24 2008 01:43 GMT
#55
I do believe that CS 1.6 is declining
As a 1.6 frequent Player (im sorry BW) i should know
many public servers have been turnned down, that have actually been really kick ass with constant players comming in and out
CS is still there, i mean its not "dead" there are still some servers
I dont know about the proleague, i never watch CS in proleague TVs or such, i just play it with friends
The new patch drops me 50% of the servers i join, Steam needs to seriously work on it
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-24 04:07:10
October 24 2008 04:02 GMT
#56
CS isn't dead. As a cs player i would say its still alive and looking good, for the people that thinks that 1.6 is dead in US your wrong. I know that the 1.6 community in Europe is still very strong, doesn't mean other country's don't play this game nor put up a fight; Just watch the WCG 08 you'll see what i mean.
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
October 24 2008 04:12 GMT
#57
It appears that high-end computers are helping to kill off professional gaming. Usually places that have crappy computers have to settle on older (usually better) games for competition.
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4339 Posts
October 24 2008 08:50 GMT
#58
I actually saw Sudden Attack at the USA WCG. Pretty fun. The lines were longer for that game then for Gears of War 2. I wouldn't be surprised if we see that game try to make an appearance here in the states.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
October 24 2008 12:52 GMT
#59
On October 23 2008 21:45 Hawk wrote:
PLay source, it's better

better yet, play tf2



lol.


I dunno about australia but CS is still going strong here. I'd dare to say that 1.6 is still a lot more popular than CS:S here, seeing how CS 1.6 is just a better e-sport game that sounds pretty logical.
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
October 24 2008 13:29 GMT
#60
On October 24 2008 13:12 XCetron wrote:
It appears that high-end computers are helping to kill off professional gaming. Usually places that have crappy computers have to settle on older (usually better) games for competition.


And you feel like an idiot with your 4870 hd playing sc.
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