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Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 16:36:23
October 03 2008 03:46 GMT
#1
Is there no light at the end of the tunnel?

Is the tunnel just a tunnel forever?

*
555, kthxbai
xiaofan
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States513 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 03:54:47
October 03 2008 03:54 GMT
#2
hi john! stop playing poker
StormSnarlX
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States278 Posts
October 03 2008 04:20 GMT
#3
what site do u use? and was that 50 free? im also thinking of playing online too.
Catz Forever <3
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
October 03 2008 04:37 GMT
#4
Players often get sponsored at the top levels, in fact if you go to a tournament and are unknown but do well you will get offered a sponsorship deal for your broadcasted tables, I think. I just noticed it since some players start in T shirts and end in full Poker Stars regalia.

btw have you though about how to get ur money?
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Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
October 03 2008 04:40 GMT
#5
They keep playing to try an win their money back is one guess. The other is they see people on TV winning $200,000+ in a couple days at a tournament and think, "Hell, that looks easy I can do that too!"
xxsaznpride
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States506 Posts
October 03 2008 04:50 GMT
#6
At the pro level, they win with bluffs and luck. They're all capable of making the calculations for probability for the various draws available to them, but still... imo it's bluffs and luck.
“Life is too short to embrace a woman I don’t love. I also think a woman’s life is too short to be embraced by a man she doesn’t love.” | CSGO: Cure Moonlight
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
October 03 2008 04:50 GMT
#7
"dumb people" that are bad at poker throw money at poker because it's fun and they really enjoy it.

That or they're addicted
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24759 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 04:54:08
October 03 2008 04:53 GMT
#8
I'm amazed the bubble hasn't burst yet. Poker still appears to be a viable career path!

edit: oh btw the title was a little over-general I think :-/
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
October 03 2008 05:20 GMT
#9
Fun..?
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
renegade_zerg
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Korea (South)525 Posts
October 03 2008 05:20 GMT
#10
A lot of young and upcoming poker players start playing small. The next step is playing satellites and getting invitationals to small tournaments. Here's the payout list for the 2008 World Series of Poker Main Event
Payouts
1. $9.1 million 6. $2.4 million
2. $5.8 million 7. $1.7 million
3. $4.5 million 8. $1.2 million
4. $3.7 million 9. $900k
5. $3.0 million

Ridiculous at how much money that is.
pirate cod
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
810 Posts
October 03 2008 06:23 GMT
#11
This is why:

"Dumb person":
So the idea behind poker is to earn as much money as possible from dumb people who play bad hands.

So, I figure I'm not dumb, I can capitalize on dumb people.


No offense.
YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
October 03 2008 07:13 GMT
#12
chances are youre playing stakes much too high for your bankroll to handle and youre on a heater. dont get too excited.
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
lazymej
Profile Joined February 2006
Canada269 Posts
October 03 2008 07:33 GMT
#13
go play at high stakes and take the dumb players' monies.

go now.
^_~
stenole
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Norway869 Posts
October 03 2008 09:11 GMT
#14
Playing poker against dumb people is unethical. Although they are willing participants, they don't know what's good for them.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 11:02:16
October 03 2008 10:57 GMT
#15
On October 03 2008 18:11 stenole wrote:
Playing poker against dumb people is unethical. Although they are willing participants, they don't know what's good for them.

Sigh.
You are making it sound like they are mentally handicapped, completely incapable of independent thought while a lot of the huge fish are probably very smart and very succesful people, seeing as how they somehow managed to accumulate enough money to play poker for a lot of money.

If we are talking lower levels, then who cares if the players are dumb or not? Nobody is going to get hurt from losing a couple of hundred playing some low limit games -_-

As for how the top level players earn money, well, I don't play nosebleed games but I suppose the really sick players feed off the slightly less sick players + the whales (such as Guy LaLiberte of Cirque du soleil fame, the 40 000, 60 000 and 100 000$ buyin tables fill up faaaaaaast when he's playing).
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 03 2008 11:10 GMT
#16
Don't be overconfident because mother variance can fuck you really badly if she wants.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 03 2008 11:23 GMT
#17
Btw you are playing cash or sngs ?
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2015 Posts
October 03 2008 13:18 GMT
#18
First one should become a psychical hardstone.
Then playing cash will make you grow your capital faster than s&g.
When your capital is big enough going for big sponsored tourney is a good way to go.

Cash -> Capital
Capital -> Tourneys
Tourneys -> Fame&Fortune
- It's all just treason - They bring me down with their lies - Don't know the reason - My life is fire and ice -
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 13:59:35
October 03 2008 13:56 GMT
#19
Don't want to be lame but i expect a whine blog soon :D
Grinding in Sngs is quite horrible imo. I know that i'm playing with horrible monkeys but after 600 games i only X2ed my br and i'm still being raped by the 20% rake of 1$ sng ...
Maybe with 300 more games i gonna have a br 90 euros and take a shot at 5$ sngs or cash games
Quite depressing life time graph:
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As you can see even with horrible opponents ( the others guys stats ) downswings can happen :o. Maybe i suck a bit too.

I just ended my worst loss streak ( 12 short handed sngs without being ITM ) x).
-12 euros yea !
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
October 03 2008 14:16 GMT
#20
People who are so ignorant that they can't see how unskilled they are really annoy me.
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 14:36:36
October 03 2008 14:33 GMT
#21
On October 03 2008 23:16 Chill wrote:
People who are so ignorant that they can't see how unskilled they are really annoy me.


Never said i'm good, but i'm playing with people way worse and it is still hard to increase my br. ( thanks 20% rake on micro :O ).

I just wanted to say that downswings always happen, especially when u play sngs.
It is like when i say "hey i'm D level, i think that D- people suck but my win rate vs them is only 80%"
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
October 03 2008 14:35 GMT
#22
On October 03 2008 23:16 Chill wrote:
People who are so ignorant that they can't see how unskilled they are really annoy me.


What was that thread about this??
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
October 03 2008 14:39 GMT
#23
On October 03 2008 23:33 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2008 23:16 Chill wrote:
People who are so ignorant that they can't see how unskilled they are really annoy me.


Never said i'm good, but i'm playing with people way worse and it is still hard to increase my br. ( thanks 20% rake on micro :O ).

I just wanted to say that downswings always happen, especially when u play sngs.
It is like when i say "hey i'm D level, i think that D- people suck but my win rate vs them is only 80%"

Oh I wasn't refering to you at all; Just in general to the people who go "I had $50 and now I have $100 why is poker so easy?"
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 03 2008 14:42 GMT
#24
I agree with you. Variance is so huge in this game that you need a large sample of hands or sngs to know if you are really a profitable and skilled player.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32130 Posts
October 03 2008 14:46 GMT
#25
On October 03 2008 23:39 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2008 23:33 Boblion wrote:
On October 03 2008 23:16 Chill wrote:
People who are so ignorant that they can't see how unskilled they are really annoy me.


Never said i'm good, but i'm playing with people way worse and it is still hard to increase my br. ( thanks 20% rake on micro :O ).

I just wanted to say that downswings always happen, especially when u play sngs.
It is like when i say "hey i'm D level, i think that D- people suck but my win rate vs them is only 80%"

Oh I wasn't refering to you at all; Just in general to the people who go "I had $50 and now I have $100 why is poker so easy?"


I know I suck at least. When I win 20$, I know that I'll balance it out in a few days and I;ll wanna smash my labtop again
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
October 03 2008 15:24 GMT
#26
please give me some tips.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 16:14:52
October 03 2008 15:59 GMT
#27
On October 04 2008 00:24 geometryb wrote:
please give me some tips.


I'm not good so if my advices are bad, more skilled players can correct me .

For low level sngs ( 6 players 1$ ):

- Play because you like poker. If you want to play poker because you are bored / you need money / you like to gamble, you will actually lose $. Only play when you are "ready" because you will need patience. If you just want to have fun, play bw.

- Respect Bankroll management. You need at least 30 buy in or variance will rape you soon or later.

- Respect position, it is very important.

- Ax X < 10 are crappy, i don't like them and i only play them if i'm in a desperate situation ( low on chips and i will shove ) or big stack. The problem with this kind of hand is that even if u get an A on the flop someone has maybe an higher Ax. Nearly auto-fold if you are not in position. You can play them if they are of the same color.

- Fold your AK / AQ / AJ / AA / JJ / KK / QQ if you feel that you are doomed. Any straight / flush own this. Beginners often think that this kind of hand is awesome but i fold them sometimes if the board is too scary.

- Bet big pre flop when you have a good hand ( when you are in hu you can slowplay ) because slowplaying is really bad early game when many players are involved in action ( except if you have a monster combo on the flop ).

- In sng i like to limp with small pockets when it isn't expensive ( early game ) because sets are real gold mines. But when the blinds are higher it is auto fold except if i'm short stack ( i will shove to get a coin flip ) or big stack facing a short stack ( same reason ).


- read stuff on Liquid Poker ( the best advice in my post lol ).




fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 18:03:43
October 03 2008 18:03 GMT
#28
20-25 buyins is perfectly fine for low stakes, assuming you have tilt control and can move down when you drop below it (say when you drop to 15 buyins or something)
EDIT: I see you were talking about Sit n gos, I don't play those so maybe you need more buyins for that, I dunno.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
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