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Despite all my hating on him, after much heartfelt deliberation i've decided to commit my vote for that half-black man, Obama. It has nothing to do with my agreement (or there lackof) with Obama's economic policies. It has only slightly more to do with my agreement (or there lackof) with Mccain's economic policies.
Obama and McCain have the same economic policy: regulate more, government more, etc. Either one would do the same thing to the economy.
The real factor, though, is that McCain is very antagonistic towards Russia. And Putin recently sent nuclear capable bombers to Venuzuela with our dickering in Georgia and Ukraine. I am heavily concerned that McCain will likely invade Iran and/or Russia, causing a massive nuclear war that will result in the entire eradication of 95% of the world population. Call me crazy, but can't you call McCain crazy too? At the very least, I'd rather not be drafted. Under Obama, I may be poor, but at least I'm alive, whereas under McCain, I'll be poor and dead.
So congratulations Democrats, you've got this hardline anarcho-capitalist's vote. Not just because Obama has a teensy weensy bit of laissez-faire in him, nor because he used to teach at my college. But because the alternative is far, far, worse.
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I may be poor, but at least I'm alive, whereas under McCain, I'll be poor and dead.
What does economical wealth matter when you're dead? And you are indeed crazy if you think the US would invade Russia.
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The point of the voting system is that you vote for the candidate whose views best represent your own. To vote for someone simply because you don't want the other guy to win is counterintuitive. There are more than 2 candidates in this election, could you not find one that represents your views?
You have a good point about McCain, but I think Obama is just a shitload of awful.
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Yeah Russia would have to do something huge for us to even consider it. And even then...
As for me I live in Nebraska so my vote officially doesn't matter. At all. Like popular vote could be 100% democrat here and our votes would still be republican.
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Hey, McCain is just trying to help the economy. Wars are known for helping down economies.
Unfortunately he is insane and isn't doing it right. I suppose a nuclear war would eliminate a lot of debt, because if the creditors are dead, do you still owe the money?
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On September 16 2008 15:08 Hittegods wrote:Show nested quote + I may be poor, but at least I'm alive, whereas under McCain, I'll be poor and dead. What does economical wealth matter when you're dead? And you are indeed crazy if you think the US would invade Russia.
McCain: We are All Georigans:
~supports Georgia and Ukraine in NATO
If Russia attacks either Georgia or Ukraine, NATO will be OBLIGATED to attack Russia. GG world.
my point is both presidents will make me poor. one will make me dead.
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On September 16 2008 15:15 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2008 15:08 Hittegods wrote: I may be poor, but at least I'm alive, whereas under McCain, I'll be poor and dead. What does economical wealth matter when you're dead? And you are indeed crazy if you think the US would invade Russia. McCain: We are All Georigans: ~supports Georgia and Ukraine in NATO If Russia attacks either Georgia or Ukraine, NATO will be OBLIGATED to attack Russia. GG world. my point is both presidents will make me poor. one will make me dead.
You are pretty naive if you think the US would risk nuclear war over Georgia or (more or less) any other NATO country. Sure, technically you are obligated to help, but those terms would surely be twisted to avoid such a situation. Georgia joining NATO is not going to happen anytime soon either, for that matter.
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On September 16 2008 15:18 HeadBangaa wrote:
Bob Barr, 2008
He's a false libertarian. Ron Paul is the true Libertarian candidate. Write him in if you want true freedom.
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Well, you know, when you're only given two choices you're not likely to be fond of either of them. It's just odds.
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It is funny because when you read each and every newspaper in France (an Europe I guess), it looks like McCain has as much understanding about econmy as a retarded monkey and the social vision of a far right Catholic integrist with a KKK membership, for whom "foreign policy" is what happens in the suburbs.
And Obama is simply the hope of a whole generation, who will make the Earth a peaceful and prosperous place.. JFK? Martin Luther King? Meh. Obama is the real thing.
You will hear about every stupid thing McCain does or says (and that's a lot), but you can't find an Obama criticism anywhere.
So I would be curious to know what their exact plan for the economy is (because, yes, it matters for Europe too...)
On a side note, after hearing a bit of McCain, I think he is a moron and he will be even worse than Bush as a President. Not only for the US but for international affairs too.
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Actually Caller, we, the Obama supporters don't win.
You win, by casting your vote for Obama.
Congratulations on making the right choice.
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As someone has pointed out, if you don't share same views with those two , then why don't you look for another candidate, I'm pretty sure there're lots of other candidates out there. America is said to be the country of freedom and democracy, then why don't you show it and do the most democratic thing which is to vote the candidate which represents you the best.
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On September 16 2008 15:04 Caller wrote:
Despite all my hating on him, after much heartfelt deliberation i've decided to commit my vote for that half-black man, Obama. It has nothing to do with my agreement (or there lackof) with Obama's economic policies. It has only slightly more to do with my agreement (or there lackof) with Mccain's economic policies.
Obama and McCain have the same economic policy: regulate more, government more, etc. Either one would do the same thing to the economy.
The real factor, though, is that McCain is very antagonistic towards Russia. And Putin recently sent nuclear capable bombers to Venuzuela with our dickering in Georgia and Ukraine. I am heavily concerned that McCain will likely invade Iran and/or Russia, causing a massive nuclear war that will result in the entire eradication of 95% of the world population. Call me crazy, but can't you call McCain crazy too? At the very least, I'd rather not be drafted. Under Obama, I may be poor, but at least I'm alive, whereas under McCain, I'll be poor and dead.
So congratulations Democrats, you've got this hardline anarcho-capitalist's vote. Not just because Obama has a teensy weensy bit of laissez-faire in him, nor because he used to teach at my college. But because the alternative is far, far, worse.
My god...
Yeah, good, continue to fuck everybody, in Irak, in Afghanistan, and soon in Russia. Vote Mc Cain yeaaah!
I don't like US and there so called "leadership", that nobody wants and which, for their economic interest is fucking the whole world.
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That's a nutty opinion, Caller. There is no way USA would invade Russia, something absolutely ridiculous what have to happen on Russia's part.
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On September 16 2008 15:04 Caller wrote:
I am heavily concerned that McCain will likely invade Iran and/or Russia, causing a massive nuclear war that will result in the entire eradication of 95% of the world population.
There won't be a war with Russia. If World War 3 didn't happen at the Cuba crisis, then it surely won't happen due to Georgia. Although it has been agreed upon that Georgia will become a member of the NATO, there has not been announced a time line or date for this to happen.
It is the policy of the NATO to not accept countries with territorial issues, thus I'd assume that Georgia will only be accepted in the NATO after the situation with Russia has been solved.
Honestly, I do favor Obama but I do like McCains personality and character and it seems unlikely to me that he is a maniac or insane. Palin maybe, but not McCain. If anybody knows about the tragedy of war, he should be it, right?
In conclusion, vote who you like best but do not consider big Mc insane. :D
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United States22883 Posts
Schnake, meet Israel and Iran.
Iran and Israel, meet Schnake.
We're on the brink of conflict and McCain's leadership will likely lead to a lot more deaths than Obama's.
When McCain makes his "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" comment you have to realize he's semi-serious (even though he doesn't know the difference between a sunni and a shia) and even more frightening is that he's convinced in the same failing air force strategy we used during the Vietnam war because it's been shoved up his ass so many times that he's a war hero.
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i agree with what jibba said
foreign policy atm is far too delicate to deal with it in a traditional "i'm a vietnam veteran - you know what to expect from me" manner.
obama is the only "wise" choice imho, though he is not mr. perfect - as nobody is - he may be able with his attitude and just his appearance to ease tensions that would otherwise lead to very very unpleasant and somehow incalculable consequences.
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On September 16 2008 15:25 Track wrote:He's a false libertarian. Ron Paul is the true Libertarian candidate. Write him in if you want true freedom.
Aren't you Sarah Palin's son?
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On September 16 2008 15:08 Hittegods wrote:Show nested quote + I may be poor, but at least I'm alive, whereas under McCain, I'll be poor and dead. What does economical wealth matter when you're dead? And you are indeed crazy if you think the US would invade Russia.
Proxy war. We're sinking $ into Georgia (or whatever former satellite state they fuck with next) within the next 4 years. It's a definite if McCain's in, and a maybe if obama is in.
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$ we can't afford right now
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On September 16 2008 22:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2008 15:25 Track wrote:On September 16 2008 15:18 HeadBangaa wrote:
Bob Barr, 2008 He's a false libertarian. Ron Paul is the true Libertarian candidate. Write him in if you want true freedom. Aren't you Sarah Palin's son?
Lol, I was completely dumbfounded for a minute. That's a gay coincidence.
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Yeah things are this black and white, right.
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On September 16 2008 23:41 iNsaNe- wrote:
Yeah things are this black and white, right.
actually they're black and dark, dark gray.
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and/or Russia
up to this point, you were doing well! then cute became bad!
In all seriousness, although I don’t think even mccain would do something like invading iran because of how explosively bad that would be, the jingoist rhetoric he uses on things is disturbing.
imo the west needs to do more in regard to Russia, mccain’s kind of toughness is the kind that is not productive here. russia does not so much need to be contained as to be taught that the old way of doing this doesn’t fly anymore. The new international order, so goes the saying, should at least be build around moral objectives, be they neoliberal or otherwise, at least moral high grounds that transcend petty national personalities is dominant in debates. (hollow debates, but at least this shows that the dominant powers who set the tone of the discussion are interested in moral leadership) Russia is playing an older game of Risk, to which there are few solutions with good outcomes. preferably then, Russia should be made to follow the new conversation.
is mccain in tune with the new diplomatic focus and strategies needed for constructive international relations? the need to stress common goals and moral objectives, and dilute us vs them antagonism is constant, of course, but right now maybe there is an opportunity to make good on this premise. a republican administration would not have the moral gravitas needed for this to work. Even if mccain does not speak a single hostile word, it is easier for russia’s more aggressive factions to portray the west’s policies in a hostile, rather than constructive light. Whatever the internal causes of Russian attitudes, it is at least clear that further brutishness will melt away any built up good will.
Is the conflict one of power, in which russia has understandable grievances, or is it a happy effort to promote international moral order. It is of course, a politicized effort, and there are always sins of the fathers in every little corner, but an outright rejection of the good intentions will be disastrous. To not lose sight of the ball, mere muscle bound toughness is not enough, we need at least a figurehead with legitimate moral gravitas, and some suave massaging of Russian egos. obama is unproven in the latter, but he has the former. A change of direction in america would be a good boon for changing the direction internationally.
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If you're really voting Obama, then I haven't been doing a good enough job trolling.
Thanks for the incentive to work harder
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Good thing too, you wouldn't want McCain/Palin in the White House. Let me illustrate why:
Step 1 with McCain/Palin: Diplomacy with the US and Russia is Vladamir Putin vs McCain. Ok.
Step 2: McCain drops dead because he's like 99.5 years old and had a heart attack.
Step 3: Palin vs Putin. Not good imo.
Step 4: Palin gets eaten alive. yay.
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On September 17 2008 15:31 Fontong wrote:
Step 3: Palin vs Putin. Not good imo.
ITS OK SHE'S FROM ALASKA WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO RUSSIA
SHE HAS EXPERIENCE
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United States22883 Posts
McCain vs. Putin is equally as frightening. We'd be looking at Cold War pt. 2
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On September 16 2008 15:08 Track wrote:
The point of the voting system is that you vote for the candidate whose views best represent your own.
The point of the voting system is to give a bunch of idiots who don't know anything about politics and are influenced by lies and false publicity the power to elect the most powerful man on earth.
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War with russia? Are we going to have tanks with cloaking technology that disguise themselves to look like trees? How about time travelling machines or troopers with jetpacks? Is Russia gonna send cybernetic squids to invade our waters too?
War with Russia within the next few years is as likely as any of the above happening.
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clearly, if I had to pick between a 0% of world destruction with a 1% of world destruction, as is the case between Obama and McCain, and there were no other factors that made them different, what would you pick?
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Until there is legitimate reason to believe any such reasoning or statistics are valid, this isn't worth discussing.
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-There is no way that Russia makes war to a great power. First. We are not in Civilization II nor in the 16th century. Period. Educate yourseld before voting, tht would avoid us to ahve some idiots like Bush as president of the most powerful country in the world.
-The one who shows his muscle a lot is not always the finest diplomat. Mc Cain talk a lot, he supported this idiotic war in Irak: imo, he is not very clever, just brutal. In politic, being just brutal never works. Like in life.
-Look a bit what happens at home, guys. Republicans have fucked your country. Your social system doesn't exist, your cultural life is worst than anywhere else in the world, the repressive discourse didn't show any result cuz criminality is higher than ever despite your millions prisonners and your barbarian death penalty. Your international image is dreadful. Everybody around the world basically hate you and you don't even know it. The CIA torture people, you make illegal wars for private interest and destroy the equilibrium of the most instable region in the world. Your multinational are expoiting whole continents and ruining their population. You are not smart enough to understand that in one century this planet will not exist if we don't react but you are too egoistic to sign the Kyoto protocle and continue throwing your shits in the face of the whole world. Your american way of life failed and went into a vain brainless and ugly consumerist philosophy which leads nowhere, your education sucks, your obesity rate is the highest in the world etc etc etc etc etc
But you are right: continue to think you are the best, make war everywhere and vote Mc Cain. Yeaaaah!
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On September 18 2008 06:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
-There is no way that Russia makes war to a great power. First. We are not in Civilization II nor in the 16th century. Period. Educate yourseld before voting, tht would avoid us to ahve some idiots like Bush as president of the most powerful country in the world.
-The one who shows his muscle a lot is not always the finest diplomat. Mc Cain talk a lot, he supported this idiotic war in Irak: imo, he is not very clever, just brutal. In politic, being just brutal never works. Like in life.
-Look a bit what happens at home, guys. Republicans have fucked your country. Your social system doesn't exist, your cultural life is worst than anywhere else in the world, the repressive discourse didn't show any result cuz criminality is higher than ever despite your millions prisonners and your barbarian death penalty. Your international image is dreadful. Everybody around the world basically hate you and you don't even know it. The CIA torture people, you make illegal wars for private interest and destroy the equilibrium of the most instable region in the world. Your multinational are expoiting whole continents and ruining their population. You are not smart enough to understand that in one century this planet will not exist if we don't react but you are too egoistic to sign the Kyoto protocle and continue throwing your shits in the face of the whole world. Your american way of life failed and went into a vain brainless and ugly consumerist philosophy which leads nowhere, your education sucks, your obesity rate is the highest in the world etc etc etc etc etc
But you are right: continue to think you are the best, make war everywhere and vote Mc Cain. Yeaaaah!
i agree with everything except what you thing is the good things for solutions:
first you say "destroy the equilibrium of the most instable region in the world" which is a huge contradiction
we know everybody hates America but they love Americans.
If anything a lot of our multinational are industrailizing nations, whereas European companies are too bogged down by a 6 hour work day and unions to do anything other than pay their workers and take subsidies from taxes
our american way of life was interrupted around 1914 when woodrow wilson decided it'd be in the best interest to make the world safe for democracy, sound famiiliar?
i'm pretty sure this planet will last longer than anybody else, and the Kyoto protocol is a useless piece of paper that denigrates the efforts made by actual individuals and for-profit organizations, not fat beauracratic governments that pay carbon credit funds to their lobbyist buddies and fat pork spending, in protecting the environment.
And the only reason you can complain about America over the internet is because of our "mindless" consumerism.
I'm still voting Obama, but clearly there are nuts on this side too, and not just McCain. I'm one of those crazies, but I didn't expect to see that many others here too.
And I really do statistically doubt that Russia will go to war. But governments usually have that propensity to go ten standard deviations from the mean and do that one stupid stupid thing.
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Nobody likes american in fact. Go to South America, they hate you. Normal, you fucked the whole continent, but you probably don't even know about it. Go to Africa, they hate you. Go to arab world, they hate you. Europeans start to really, really hate you. Chinese hate you. Russians hate you. Everybody hate you.
Nobody likes your multinational ruining the jungle for oil, flooding the world with american products and exploiting third world people. Nobody.
In thirty year, they won't be snow in Arctic ocean in summer anymore nor snow on the kilimanjaro for the first time since hundred of thousand years. The peack of species extinction the biodiversity is facing because of human action is the biggest in the world history, bigger than when the dinosaurs disapeared. Our world is fucking dying and you talk about profit and "fat pork spending in protecting environment". I don't know if you are stupid or just completely ignorant. Or both. Don't you realize that, maybe, there is stuff more important that the profits of your oil companies? Like the whole nature, for example?
Middle east was already instable. Now it's a disaster. Irak is a the best think you could ever do for extremists.
American way of life leads nowhere. It just fails.
And by the way, if you were not completely ignorant you should know that Russia can't go to war, and that there is absolutely no reason why they would do it if they could.
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On September 18 2008 07:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Nobody likes american in fact. Go to South America, they hate you. Normal, you fucked the whole continent, but you probably don't even know about it. Go to Africa, they hate you. Go to arab world, they hate you. Europeans start to really, really hate you. Chinese hate you. Russians hate you. Everybody hate you.
Nobody likes your multinational ruining the jungle for oil, flooding the world with american products and exploiting third world people. Nobody.
In thirty year, they won't be snow in Arctic ocean in summer anymore nor snow on the kilimanjaro for the first time since hundred of thousand years. The peack of species extinction the biodiversity is facing because of human action is the biggest in the world history, bigger than when the dinosaurs disapeared. Our world is fucking dying and you talk about profit and "fat pork spending in protecting environment". I don't know if you are stupid or just completely ignorant. Or both. Don't you realize that, maybe, there is stuff more important that the profits of your oil companies? Like the whole nature, for example?
Middle east was already instable. Now it's a disaster. Irak is a the best think you could ever do for extremists.
American way of life leads nowhere. It just fails.
And by the way, if you were not completely ignorant you should know that Russia can't go to war, and that there is absolutely no reason why they would do it if they could.
Ahhh France.
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On September 18 2008 08:02 Salv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2008 07:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Nobody likes american in fact. Go to South America, they hate you. Normal, you fucked the whole continent, but you probably don't even know about it. Go to Africa, they hate you. Go to arab world, they hate you. Europeans start to really, really hate you. Chinese hate you. Russians hate you. Everybody hate you.
Nobody likes your multinational ruining the jungle for oil, flooding the world with american products and exploiting third world people. Nobody.
In thirty year, they won't be snow in Arctic ocean in summer anymore nor snow on the kilimanjaro for the first time since hundred of thousand years. The peack of species extinction the biodiversity is facing because of human action is the biggest in the world history, bigger than when the dinosaurs disapeared. Our world is fucking dying and you talk about profit and "fat pork spending in protecting environment". I don't know if you are stupid or just completely ignorant. Or both. Don't you realize that, maybe, there is stuff more important that the profits of your oil companies? Like the whole nature, for example?
Middle east was already instable. Now it's a disaster. Irak is a the best think you could ever do for extremists.
American way of life leads nowhere. It just fails.
And by the way, if you were not completely ignorant you should know that Russia can't go to war, and that there is absolutely no reason why they would do it if they could. Ahhh France.
It's worse than that, in fact: I'm half French half Argentinian. Best combination for liking US.
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On September 18 2008 07:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Nobody likes american in fact. Go to South America, they hate you. Normal, you fucked the whole continent, but you probably don't even know about it. Go to Africa, they hate you. Go to arab world, they hate you. Europeans start to really, really hate you. Chinese hate you. Russians hate you. Everybody hate you.
Nobody likes your multinational ruining the jungle for oil, flooding the world with american products and exploiting third world people. Nobody.
In thirty year, they won't be snow in Arctic ocean in summer anymore nor snow on the kilimanjaro for the first time since hundred of thousand years. The peack of species extinction the biodiversity is facing because of human action is the biggest in the world history, bigger than when the dinosaurs disapeared. Our world is fucking dying and you talk about profit and "fat pork spending in protecting environment". I don't know if you are stupid or just completely ignorant. Or both. Don't you realize that, maybe, there is stuff more important that the profits of your oil companies? Like the whole nature, for example?
Middle east was already instable. Now it's a disaster. Irak is a the best think you could ever do for extremists.
American way of life leads nowhere. It just fails.
And by the way, if you were not completely ignorant you should know that Russia can't go to war, and that there is absolutely no reason why they would do it if they could.
No they hate America, the country. I don't like America, the country, either. First of all you don't find oil in the jungle. second of all there are many many many overseas american, why arent' they all lynched yet. Besides Chinese hate Russians, Europeans and Detroit hate Chinese, Africans hate Europeans for imperialism, etc. etc. etc. Everybody hates everybody, that's a good thing.
By the way, the one who f*cked up Africa was something called the United Nations. Look at how sh*tty Somalia is and compare it to a few years ago before the provincial government stepped in with the backhand of the UN. Sure it could have been much much better, but it was still more stable as an ANARCHY than with a federal government.
Ok I'm going to go through your overzealous environmentalism for a moment and break it down:
In thirty year, they won't be snow in Arctic ocean in summer anymore nor snow on the kilimanjaro for the first time since hundred of thousand years. The peack of species extinction the biodiversity is facing because of human action is the biggest in the world history, bigger than when the dinosaurs disapeared. Our world is fucking dying and you talk about profit and "fat pork spending in protecting environment". I don't know if you are stupid or just completely ignorant. Or both. Don't you realize that, maybe, there is stuff more important that the profits of your oil companies? Like the whole nature, for example?
Snow in Arctic ocean: first i believe you mean ice, second of all ice surface area actually increased this year, third of all i know there is global warming but I do not know if it is natural or human or both, fourth of all ok theres no snow on kilimanjaro not because of global warming but because of decreased precipitation, source university of innsbruck in austria and university of washington in us.
peak of species extinction: yes we know that. this has been happening for the past 5000 years, part natural selection, part european hunting/imperialism, part african/south american slash and burn development, part american being idiots. we're all responsible for it, but you turn to the one responsible (government) in order to fix it oops.
the world isnt dying lol, i think that's a gross overstatement, in fact global warming if anything would increase life diversity.
and i'm not saying saving the environment isn't a good thing, in fact it is, but instead of listening to al gore shout conservation with his 30000 foot house and collect money from tax credits you should let private people develop, who cares if its for profit if it works
oil companies are corrupt and in collusion with the government. i have no care for those companies unless they are private and government independent. unlike say overly unionized companies in certain places.
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also the fact that mccain would extend the bush tax cuts which is completely idiotic
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On September 18 2008 08:53 kpcrew wrote:
also the fact that mccain would extend the bush tax cuts which is completely idiotic
tax cuts are good. The Bush tax cuts are not b/c they benefit only the rich and the poor... neither of whom actually pay the brunt of the taxes. the middle class gets buttraped by the tax cuts as they save like $100 b/c of the AMT. so i have to agree here
also mccain says he has no economic experience at all... scary.
also mccain invented the black berry.
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On September 18 2008 08:02 Salv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2008 07:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Nobody likes american in fact. Go to South America, they hate you. Normal, you fucked the whole continent, but you probably don't even know about it. Go to Africa, they hate you. Go to arab world, they hate you. Europeans start to really, really hate you. Chinese hate you. Russians hate you. Everybody hate you.
Nobody likes your multinational ruining the jungle for oil, flooding the world with american products and exploiting third world people. Nobody.
In thirty year, they won't be snow in Arctic ocean in summer anymore nor snow on the kilimanjaro for the first time since hundred of thousand years. The peack of species extinction the biodiversity is facing because of human action is the biggest in the world history, bigger than when the dinosaurs disapeared. Our world is fucking dying and you talk about profit and "fat pork spending in protecting environment". I don't know if you are stupid or just completely ignorant. Or both. Don't you realize that, maybe, there is stuff more important that the profits of your oil companies? Like the whole nature, for example?
Middle east was already instable. Now it's a disaster. Irak is a the best think you could ever do for extremists.
American way of life leads nowhere. It just fails.
And by the way, if you were not completely ignorant you should know that Russia can't go to war, and that there is absolutely no reason why they would do it if they could. Ahhh France.
The funny thing is, no one really likes france either.
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On September 18 2008 09:26 Cpt.Cocaine wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2008 08:02 Salv wrote:On September 18 2008 07:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Nobody likes american in fact. Go to South America, they hate you. Normal, you fucked the whole continent, but you probably don't even know about it. Go to Africa, they hate you. Go to arab world, they hate you. Europeans start to really, really hate you. Chinese hate you. Russians hate you. Everybody hate you.
Nobody likes your multinational ruining the jungle for oil, flooding the world with american products and exploiting third world people. Nobody.
In thirty year, they won't be snow in Arctic ocean in summer anymore nor snow on the kilimanjaro for the first time since hundred of thousand years. The peack of species extinction the biodiversity is facing because of human action is the biggest in the world history, bigger than when the dinosaurs disapeared. Our world is fucking dying and you talk about profit and "fat pork spending in protecting environment". I don't know if you are stupid or just completely ignorant. Or both. Don't you realize that, maybe, there is stuff more important that the profits of your oil companies? Like the whole nature, for example?
Middle east was already instable. Now it's a disaster. Irak is a the best think you could ever do for extremists.
American way of life leads nowhere. It just fails.
And by the way, if you were not completely ignorant you should know that Russia can't go to war, and that there is absolutely no reason why they would do it if they could. Ahhh France. The funny thing is, no one really likes france either.
lol, france is such a joke. More like "Nobody likes france in fact. Go to South America, they hate you. Go to Africa, they hate you. Go to arab world, they hate you. Europeans start to really, really hate you. Go to southeast asia, they hate you. Chinese hate you. Russians hate you. Everybody hate you." McCain ftw
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how can u say that?
actually most Lithuanian ppl dislike america way more than france 
but u probably dont even know where Lithuania is lol :D
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Unless you're in a swing state, your vote doesn't matter anyway.
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On September 18 2008 11:45 Fr33t wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2008 09:26 Cpt.Cocaine wrote:On September 18 2008 08:02 Salv wrote:On September 18 2008 07:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Nobody likes american in fact. Go to South America, they hate you. Normal, you fucked the whole continent, but you probably don't even know about it. Go to Africa, they hate you. Go to arab world, they hate you. Europeans start to really, really hate you. Chinese hate you. Russians hate you. Everybody hate you.
Nobody likes your multinational ruining the jungle for oil, flooding the world with american products and exploiting third world people. Nobody.
In thirty year, they won't be snow in Arctic ocean in summer anymore nor snow on the kilimanjaro for the first time since hundred of thousand years. The peack of species extinction the biodiversity is facing because of human action is the biggest in the world history, bigger than when the dinosaurs disapeared. Our world is fucking dying and you talk about profit and "fat pork spending in protecting environment". I don't know if you are stupid or just completely ignorant. Or both. Don't you realize that, maybe, there is stuff more important that the profits of your oil companies? Like the whole nature, for example?
Middle east was already instable. Now it's a disaster. Irak is a the best think you could ever do for extremists.
American way of life leads nowhere. It just fails.
And by the way, if you were not completely ignorant you should know that Russia can't go to war, and that there is absolutely no reason why they would do it if they could. Ahhh France. The funny thing is, no one really likes france either. lol, france is such a joke. More like "Nobody likes france in fact. Go to South America, they hate you. Go to Africa, they hate you. Go to arab world, they hate you. Europeans start to really, really hate you. Go to southeast asia, they hate you. Chinese hate you. Russians hate you. Everybody hate you." McCain ftw
I'm not quite sure that if you ask someone from Chile or Estonia if he rather dislike America or France more he'll tell you France.
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On September 16 2008 15:04 Caller wrote:
Despite all my hating on him, after much heartfelt deliberation i've decided to commit my vote for that half-black man, Obama. It has nothing to do with my agreement (or there lackof) with Obama's economic policies. It has only slightly more to do with my agreement (or there lackof) with Mccain's economic policies.
Obama and McCain have the same economic policy: regulate more, government more, etc. Either one would do the same thing to the economy.
The real factor, though, is that McCain is very antagonistic towards Russia. And Putin recently sent nuclear capable bombers to Venuzuela with our dickering in Georgia and Ukraine. I am heavily concerned that McCain will likely invade Iran and/or Russia, causing a massive nuclear war that will result in the entire eradication of 95% of the world population. Call me crazy, but can't you call McCain crazy too? At the very least, I'd rather not be drafted. Under Obama, I may be poor, but at least I'm alive, whereas under McCain, I'll be poor and dead.
So congratulations Democrats, you've got this hardline anarcho-capitalist's vote. Not just because Obama has a teensy weensy bit of laissez-faire in him, nor because he used to teach at my college. But because the alternative is far, far, worse.
That's just cause you're uneducated, and this post is a good example of why dumbass politicians win, because their constituents don't know shit
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I hate to say, but you are the exact kind of ignorant people that let dumbass politicians win. And dumbass is already very polite. You dare say McCain and Obama have the same economic policy? Do you even read anything about the candidates campaign? Hell, Russian won't even have to attack if McCain gets elected. If you think the past 8 years have been good for the US, then go ahead and elect McCain, cause he has the exact same policy as Bush.
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On September 18 2008 07:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Nobody likes american in fact. Go to South America, they hate you. Normal, you fucked the whole continent, but you probably don't even know about it. Go to Africa, they hate you. Go to arab world, they hate you. Europeans start to really, really hate you. Chinese hate you. Russians hate you. Everybody hate you.
Nobody likes your multinational ruining the jungle for oil, flooding the world with american products and exploiting third world people. Nobody.
In thirty year, they won't be snow in Arctic ocean in summer anymore nor snow on the kilimanjaro for the first time since hundred of thousand years. The peack of species extinction the biodiversity is facing because of human action is the biggest in the world history, bigger than when the dinosaurs disapeared. Our world is fucking dying and you talk about profit and "fat pork spending in protecting environment". I don't know if you are stupid or just completely ignorant. Or both. Don't you realize that, maybe, there is stuff more important that the profits of your oil companies? Like the whole nature, for example?
Middle east was already instable. Now it's a disaster. Irak is a the best think you could ever do for extremists.
American way of life leads nowhere. It just fails.
And by the way, if you were not completely ignorant you should know that Russia can't go to war, and that there is absolutely no reason why they would do it if they could.
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On September 18 2008 08:02 Salv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2008 07:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Nobody likes american in fact. Go to South America, they hate you. Normal, you fucked the whole continent, but you probably don't even know about it. Go to Africa, they hate you. Go to arab world, they hate you. Europeans start to really, really hate you. Chinese hate you. Russians hate you. Everybody hate you.
Nobody likes your multinational ruining the jungle for oil, flooding the world with american products and exploiting third world people. Nobody.
In thirty year, they won't be snow in Arctic ocean in summer anymore nor snow on the kilimanjaro for the first time since hundred of thousand years. The peack of species extinction the biodiversity is facing because of human action is the biggest in the world history, bigger than when the dinosaurs disapeared. Our world is fucking dying and you talk about profit and "fat pork spending in protecting environment". I don't know if you are stupid or just completely ignorant. Or both. Don't you realize that, maybe, there is stuff more important that the profits of your oil companies? Like the whole nature, for example?
Middle east was already instable. Now it's a disaster. Irak is a the best think you could ever do for extremists.
American way of life leads nowhere. It just fails.
And by the way, if you were not completely ignorant you should know that Russia can't go to war, and that there is absolutely no reason why they would do it if they could. Ahhh France.
*sigh* tell me about it. I live right next door.
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Also, there's a chance that McCain will be very sick or perhaps even pass away, making Palin the president and she will not be able to run a country.
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On September 18 2008 20:51 nozaro33 wrote:
I hate to say, but you are the exact kind of ignorant people that let dumbass politicians win. And dumbass is already very polite. You dare say McCain and Obama have the same economic policy? Do you even read anything about the candidates campaign? Hell, Russian won't even have to attack if McCain gets elected. If you think the past 8 years have been good for the US, then go ahead and elect McCain, cause he has the exact same policy as Bush.
they are lol
obamas solution to fix the economy is to stop the greed and put more regulation
obama will not get rid of the tax cuts if we are in a recession (we are)
mccains solution to fix the economy is to stop the greed and put more regulation
mccain won't get rid of the taxcuts, period.
AND IN CASE YOU DIDNT READ IM VOTING FOR OBAMA
clearly you are the ignorant dumbass
and biff i'm tired of posting reason and listening to you troll like a whiny bitch. one more such post and you're banned from my blog.
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On September 19 2008 00:18 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Also, there's a chance that McCain will be very sick or perhaps even pass away, making Palin the president and she will not be able to run a country.
His mother is still alive and I believe his older sister is too so it's not that likely that he'll die in office imo.
And according to Biff The Understudy I must be the only person in the world outside the US who doesn't hate it.
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On September 19 2008 02:16 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2008 00:18 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Also, there's a chance that McCain will be very sick or perhaps even pass away, making Palin the president and she will not be able to run a country. His mother is still alive and I believe his older sister is too so it's not that likely that he'll die in office imo. And according to Biff The Understudy I must be the only person in the world outside the US who doesn't hate it.
Probably.
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On September 19 2008 02:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2008 02:16 jello_biafra wrote:On September 19 2008 00:18 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Also, there's a chance that McCain will be very sick or perhaps even pass away, making Palin the president and she will not be able to run a country. His mother is still alive and I believe his older sister is too so it's not that likely that he'll die in office imo. And according to Biff The Understudy I must be the only person in the world outside the US who doesn't hate it. Probably.
ban'd
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On September 18 2008 06:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
your obesity rate is the highest in the world etc etc etc etc etc
Actually, Australia has the highest average obesity rate as of recently.
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On September 16 2008 15:18 HeadBangaa wrote:
Bob Barr, 2008
Bob Barr - he opposed liberty before he was for it
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On September 16 2008 15:15 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2008 15:08 Hittegods wrote: I may be poor, but at least I'm alive, whereas under McCain, I'll be poor and dead. What does economical wealth matter when you're dead? And you are indeed crazy if you think the US would invade Russia. McCain: We are All Georigans: ~supports Georgia and Ukraine in NATO If Russia attacks either Georgia or Ukraine, NATO will be OBLIGATED to attack Russia. GG world. my point is both presidents will make me poor. one will make me dead.
How will he make you poor?
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I think I heard from somewhere that one of McCains foreign policy advisors is a Georgian Lobbyist.
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On September 18 2008 07:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Nobody likes american in fact. Go to South America, they hate you. Normal, you fucked the whole continent, but you probably don't even know about it. Go to Africa, they hate you. Go to arab world, they hate you. Europeans start to really, really hate you. Chinese hate you. Russians hate you. Everybody hate you.
Nobody likes your multinational ruining the jungle for oil, flooding the world with american products and exploiting third world people. Nobody.
In thirty year, they won't be snow in Arctic ocean in summer anymore nor snow on the kilimanjaro for the first time since hundred of thousand years. The peack of species extinction the biodiversity is facing because of human action is the biggest in the world history, bigger than when the dinosaurs disapeared. Our world is fucking dying and you talk about profit and "fat pork spending in protecting environment". I don't know if you are stupid or just completely ignorant. Or both. Don't you realize that, maybe, there is stuff more important that the profits of your oil companies? Like the whole nature, for example?
Middle east was already instable. Now it's a disaster. Irak is a the best think you could ever do for extremists.
American way of life leads nowhere. It just fails.
And by the way, if you were not completely ignorant you should know that Russia can't go to war, and that there is absolutely no reason why they would do it if they could.
Maybe you just haven't studied French history enough.
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On September 19 2008 02:16 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2008 00:18 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Also, there's a chance that McCain will be very sick or perhaps even pass away, making Palin the president and she will not be able to run a country. His mother is still alive and I believe his older sister is too so it's not that likely that he'll die in office imo. And according to Biff The Understudy I must be the only person in the world outside the US who doesn't hate it. Long female life span in his family doesn't mean anything for his prospects, and neither of them were in a POW camp. You know how smoking takes 10 years off your life? How many years do you think being tortured does?
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Finally, there is responsibility on the part of the next US President to restore western unity with a foreign policy that is more humble and inclusive. Let's have no more arrogant talk of missions defining coalitions rather than the other way round. The coalition itself is a precious thing, never more so than now when an autocratic Russia is once again pushing to divide Europe from America. A prominent Russian liberal intellectual recently told a meeting in London that Putin is hoping for a McCain victory because he thinks it will help him to achieve precisely that.
oy oy
http://www.democratiya.com/review.asp?reviews_id=193
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