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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-10 03:30:53
August 10 2008 03:27 GMT
#1
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deletionism

Deletionism is one of the worst things ever.

They banned me from the local wikipedia after I've started an article about Boxer four times in a row (the article got deleted three times). They claim that Boxer is not notable enough to be described at an encyclopedia.

Currently a vote is being made whether the article should be deleted or not; I cannot participate in it because they banned me after I flamed them at the IRC (I havent flamed them at wiki though; so this is very strange).

If they delete the article, there is a way we could protest - people who know rules 1&2 will be needed. We could mark other useless pages for deletion too.

*
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 10 2008 03:31 GMT
#2
If that wikipedia has entries for pple about hmmm, like Professional wresting, then I see no reason why Lim Yo Hwan shouldnt be mentioned considering he's been featured in at least 20 or 30 international news programs about SK progaming over the years and should have sufficient exposure to warrant inclusion.

Btw I seriously thought this was going to be some troll attempt b/c your ID is "closed" and the entry is "deletionism" haha ^^
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24777 Posts
August 10 2008 03:34 GMT
#3
When I first saw this guy I thought of Locked.

I learned getting involved in wikipedia politics is dumb. If they don't want you to make an article about Boxer, then they are sullying their own site. Screw them.
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zdd
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1463 Posts
August 10 2008 03:34 GMT
#4
I just don't understand deletionism. The best reason that I can come up with for the deletion of "non-notable" (by whose standards?) content is so that "good" content is easier to find. However, wikipedia has a very good search engine (google can also be used), which pretty much negates this argument.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24777 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-10 03:35:41
August 10 2008 03:35 GMT
#5
On August 10 2008 12:34 zdd wrote:
I just don't understand deletionism. The best reason that I can come up with for the deletion of "non-notable" (by whose standards?) content is so that "good" content is easier to find. However, wikipedia has a very good search engine (google can also be used), which pretty much negates this argument.

I think they actually do have to draw the line somewhere. It would be inefficient for them to allow everybody in the world to make an article about themselves (and this is symbolic for what people really could do). But the issue is obviously how strict they are.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 10 2008 03:51 GMT
#6
I assume you're not talking about THE wikipedia, because they've had an entry on Boxer for like 3 years.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 10 2008 03:54 GMT
#7

They banned me from the local wikipedia


I wonder what 'local' means... some other website's wiki... or THE wikipedia, but in a diff language (hence local)
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
August 10 2008 04:42 GMT
#8
i alway thought wiki wanted everything and anything possible ; forgoing quality for quantity

Is there anything not listed in wikipedia?
Don't teachers always get pissy when u list them as references? :p

then this happens



I learned getting involved in wikipedia politics is dumb. If they don't want you to make an article about Boxer, then they are sullying their own site. Screw them.

good advice if only was taken to heart a year ago ~
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24777 Posts
August 10 2008 04:45 GMT
#9
On August 10 2008 13:42 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Don't teachers always get pissy when u list them as references? :p
I don't get your point.

then this happens

Show nested quote +


I learned getting involved in wikipedia politics is dumb. If they don't want you to make an article about Boxer, then they are sullying their own site. Screw them.

good advice if only was taken to heart a year ago ~

Haha yeah... if you are willing to play the game, then wikipedia can be a fun/useful place to invest time... but you have to be willing to play the game!
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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
August 10 2008 05:00 GMT
#10
IIRC the decision to delete is not a vote. It's just a forum for people to voice their opinion to admins.

The English Wikipedia deletes some 5000 pages a day. A lot of stupid shit gets posted to wikipedia that can clog up searches and reduce the overall quality of the site.

I'm assuming by local you mean the wikipedia for your language. You might want ot point out that the English version has an entry for Lim Yo Hwan.

Also, you kept rebuilding a page after it was deleted. That's like remaking a thread after it's closed, three times. Then you go on #teamliquid and flame the ops. Seriously, what did you expect?
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Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada542 Posts
August 10 2008 05:53 GMT
#11
On August 10 2008 12:51 Jibba wrote:
I assume you're not talking about THE wikipedia, because they've had an entry on Boxer for like 3 years.


yah...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lim_Yo-Hwan

Is this one yours?
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overpool
Profile Joined April 2008
United States191 Posts
August 10 2008 07:22 GMT
#12
On August 10 2008 12:27 closed wrote:
They banned me from the local wikipedia after I've started an article about Boxer four times in a row (the article got deleted three times).

Um... What a "local wikipedia"? Are confusing the concept of a wiki with Wikipedia, a well-known wiki? Two people have already pointed out that the English Wikipedia does have an article on Boxer.

On August 10 2008 12:27 closed wrote:
If they delete the article, there is a way we could protest - people who know rules 1&2 will be needed. We could mark other useless pages for deletion too.

Don't be an idiot. Why would you purposely disrupt an open encyclopedia because they wouldn't include an article you wanted? What do you think you're going to accomplish? And since when is /b/ "your own personal army" (to use one of their own stupid memes)?
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