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GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
July 29 2008 20:51 GMT
#21
Than what precisely is "masculinity" then?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
July 29 2008 21:21 GMT
#22
lol
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
July 29 2008 21:29 GMT
#23
Strength and boldness, which does not mean or translate to violence. Knowing what you want and going for it; deciciveness.

Being unafraid to show sexuality toward women (but also not letting it take control of you), which doesn't pin you into being either promiscuous or the one women man type. It can be applied to both mindsets.
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Mooga
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States575 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-29 22:22:08
July 29 2008 22:18 GMT
#24
This is how I see it:

First, send out an early scout to gather as much information as you can about your target as early as possible--you wouldn't want to get totally pwned by a proxy 2-gate zeal rush because you went for an early expo. Next (assuming you got the scout into her main) determine if you like her pylons and make sure her probes aren't carrying syphilis. Now you have a strategical decision to make.

Either
1) If you like her base structures, and are confident that you can go into a long macro game with her, go ahead and start expanding. Or
2) If you think that a long, macro game would be too much trouble for what it's worth, you can counter with a quick rush preferably pulling all of you workers to go in for the clusterfuck and hopefully raze all of her pylons. Then get the hell out of there. Or
3) GG, and find another game. Although I normally would at least try my luck with a rush before GGing.

It's pretty simple really. If you don't want to waste time playing a long TvT game with a particular target but generally like playing long, macro games, choose options 2 or 3 and look for the game that allows you to choose option 1. On the other hand, some people would rather be a clit commander, so they end up choosing option 2 over and over again hoping to raze as many pylons as possible in a short amount of time. You might get criticized for how you play, but a win is a win in the end. It just comes down to personal preference.

So to give advice to the OP, make sure you get that scout in and go in to the game knowing which option you prefer.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
July 29 2008 22:31 GMT
#25
Generally being nice is not a masculine trait, which is why you're not getting the results you want. Women are the ones being nice all the time, which includes complimenting on each other when they subconsciously are competing with each other, but some cases they do have a deep friend relationshpip. Other times could be being nice while rejecting you, instead of saying "No I'm not going with a loser like you" they'd say something like "Oh i can't i'm busy that day".

Women are the ones being "nice" all the time, and if you happen to be a nice guy, you're not pushing any of their buttons, but instead acting like one of the girls. She'll view you as one of her female friends at most.
----

If you can't beat them why not join them? You'll probably think that doesn't fit my character to be a bad boy, and i don't want to manipulate women. The truth is that you're already manipulating women by being nice, you're not like that 24/7, you do act different around hot girls so you can manipulate them anyways by being "nice" anyways. So why not just be a bad boy instead of complaining? just skip the abuse.
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BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
July 29 2008 23:05 GMT
#26
Oh, I have to chime in again.

There was a study performed, in which the subjects (all women) were played tapes of men answering several personal questions. The recordings of men who made more "feminine" responses were deemed more mentally fit and emotionally stable by the women than the men who made more "masculine" responses.

What does this mean? Be careful in your interpretation And bear in mind that the experiment itself could have had error also.
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
July 29 2008 23:13 GMT
#27
Because I've been told my whole goddamned life to be myself. I'm a nice person. I confess. Its my overarching personality flaw.

I've also been told for most of my life that to get a girl that being myself is a good way to go. So we find later that that's a bunch of bullshit, and we can't actually be ourselves and get girls.

I'm disillusion and frustrated by this reveloation. Why should I have to be a worse person who isn't myself to get girls?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-29 23:28:59
July 29 2008 23:27 GMT
#28
On July 30 2008 08:05 BottleAbuser wrote:
Oh, I have to chime in again.

There was a study performed, in which the subjects (all women) were played tapes of men answering several personal questions. The recordings of men who made more "feminine" responses were deemed more mentally fit and emotionally stable by the women than the men who made more "masculine" responses.

What does this mean? Be careful in your interpretation And bear in mind that the experiment itself could have had error also.


That doesn't say anything about attraction.

And it would make sense that they would say that, because they would like to believe that women are more mentally fit and emotionally stable than men, so they perceieve the more feminie men that way as a way to convince themselves that they are as well.
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d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-29 23:40:55
July 29 2008 23:38 GMT
#29
Now, I don't know what made you (Polyphasic) write this entry but I'm actually quite curious about it. I almost completely agree with you here. There is just an assload of totally laughable vapourers out there, but no one seems to see through them. I find women to be especially prone to impression by those windbags and I can't figure out why this is.

However, if you want my advice, it's simple:

1. Convert your anger and frustration into something productive. Everytime I get frustrated about something, I just start to study harder, read more, work out harder and the such. This gives you two advantages: First of all, you can manage your anger and second, your extra motivation puts you even further ahead of your laughable contestants.

2. Show what you've got. Now, I cannot stress that point enough, since there is a huge load of very intelligent, talented and nice people who just haven't got the courage to show their abilities/personalities. As long as you don't show your skills etc. in a while, loudmouths and the such are going to outrun you, since by the time people see through them, they've already done the damage.

3. Expose them, if necessary. Now, this is rather personal and I don't know how you feel about arguments/bashing others and the such. As for me, I'm rather a quiet and thoughtful person, but there is a pain limit, when it comes to bragging in front of me and there have been occasions, where I would completely cut low some guy/girl in front of everybody. I know this isn't quite sporting, but if you just cannot take it anymore, you've got to let it out. Some people just don't deserve better.

Well, hope you're not too frustrated and I'm looking forward to any posts of yours or any further elaboration.

Regards
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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
July 29 2008 23:46 GMT
#30
On July 30 2008 08:13 GeneralStan wrote:
Because I've been told my whole goddamned life to be myself. I'm a nice person. I confess. Its my overarching personality flaw.

I've also been told for most of my life that to get a girl that being myself is a good way to go. So we find later that that's a bunch of bullshit, and we can't actually be ourselves and get girls.

I'm disillusion and frustrated by this reveloation. Why should I have to be a worse person who isn't myself to get girls?


"Just be yourself" is one of the worst pieces of advice ever given. It's the response people give when they really don't have any advice for you. If it's a problem that can be solved by being yourself, then there shouldn't have been a problem to begin with.
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Scorpion
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-30 00:23:47
July 30 2008 00:23 GMT
#31
So, this blog is basically about cheating?

I know, it sucks, I know a few of my friends have told me they've cheated on their girlfriends or have fuck buddies or stuff and I just feel really bad, especially when the girl is really innocent looking and is a really nice person.

They don't deserve to be hurt like that. Oh well, nothing matters when there's an O on the line.

EDIT: ;D
Mango @ U.S.East!
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
July 30 2008 01:17 GMT
#32
On July 30 2008 08:46 semioldguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2008 08:13 GeneralStan wrote:
Because I've been told my whole goddamned life to be myself. I'm a nice person. I confess. Its my overarching personality flaw.

I've also been told for most of my life that to get a girl that being myself is a good way to go. So we find later that that's a bunch of bullshit, and we can't actually be ourselves and get girls.

I'm disillusion and frustrated by this reveloation. Why should I have to be a worse person who isn't myself to get girls?


"Just be yourself" is one of the worst pieces of advice ever given. It's the response people give when they really don't have any advice for you. If it's a problem that can be solved by being yourself, then there shouldn't have been a problem to begin with.


You can infact be your "new self" your new character that you want to develop that is naturally attractive to women. Why would you want to be yourself when you've had no sucess for the past 20 years anyways?

Again it seems like you're manipulating women this way, but the truth of the matter is that you're manipulating women anyways by being nice and generous. You have the mindset that "I want her, so I'm going to be nice to her" which is already maniplative.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
July 30 2008 01:18 GMT
#33
No, basically the op has no idea on what attraction is, and is probably a wuss.

His statement that gave me such idea was that "jerks get women" "woman doesnt like nice guys". Basically, you're just not playing the right way. Drop your bloody wuss attitude and grow a man. Woman are attracted to manliness, not wussness.

for more info, read semioldguy's posts of what manliness is, so you dont miss-interpret that.

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Scorpion
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1974 Posts
July 30 2008 01:24 GMT
#34
On July 30 2008 10:18 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
No, basically the op has no idea on what attraction is, and is probably a wuss.

His statement that gave me such idea was that "jerks get women" "woman doesnt like nice guys". Basically, you're just not playing the right way. Drop your bloody wuss attitude and grow a man. Woman are attracted to manliness, not wussness.

for more info, read semioldguy's posts of what manliness is, so you dont miss-interpret that.



Indeed.
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Look at me now! Rawr ;3
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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-30 01:26:23
July 30 2008 01:24 GMT
#35
If you think that being nice has anything to do with a girl rejecting you over a "badass" guy you you're nuts. You're probably just some boring dude and your rant sucks, stop blaming it on other people.

Also there's a difference between being nice and being some pussy that gets walked over.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
July 30 2008 01:24 GMT
#36
On July 30 2008 10:18 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
No, basically the op has no idea on what attraction is, and is probably a wuss.

His statement that gave me such idea was that "jerks get women" "woman doesnt like nice guys". Basically, you're just not playing the right way. Drop your bloody wuss attitude and grow a man. Woman are attracted to manliness, not wussness.

for more info, read semioldguy's posts of what manliness is, so you dont miss-interpret that.



The wuss approach to meeting women works for those who don't get much attention from men, but for the hot ones, it does not work at all unless you keep chasing her for years on end, and eventually she'll fall for you.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-30 01:35:26
July 30 2008 01:34 GMT
#37
On July 30 2008 08:46 semioldguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2008 08:13 GeneralStan wrote:
Because I've been told my whole goddamned life to be myself. I'm a nice person. I confess. Its my overarching personality flaw.

I've also been told for most of my life that to get a girl that being myself is a good way to go. So we find later that that's a bunch of bullshit, and we can't actually be ourselves and get girls.

I'm disillusion and frustrated by this reveloation. Why should I have to be a worse person who isn't myself to get girls?


"Just be yourself" is one of the worst pieces of advice ever given. It's the response people give when they really don't have any advice for you. If it's a problem that can be solved by being yourself, then there shouldn't have been a problem to begin with.


it's bad advice for people who are unwilling to give up on things they desire


and what it means is to be honest and think with your own mind, not to do things simply because you are taught so.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 30 2008 01:36 GMT
#38
On July 30 2008 10:17 YanGpaN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2008 08:46 semioldguy wrote:
On July 30 2008 08:13 GeneralStan wrote:
Because I've been told my whole goddamned life to be myself. I'm a nice person. I confess. Its my overarching personality flaw.

I've also been told for most of my life that to get a girl that being myself is a good way to go. So we find later that that's a bunch of bullshit, and we can't actually be ourselves and get girls.

I'm disillusion and frustrated by this reveloation. Why should I have to be a worse person who isn't myself to get girls?


"Just be yourself" is one of the worst pieces of advice ever given. It's the response people give when they really don't have any advice for you. If it's a problem that can be solved by being yourself, then there shouldn't have been a problem to begin with.

Again it seems like you're manipulating women this way, but the truth of the matter is that you're manipulating women anyways by being nice and generous. You have the mindset that "I want her, so I'm going to be nice to her" which is already maniplative.



uh, unless you're actually nice to everyone.

/gasp
BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
July 30 2008 01:44 GMT
#39
Listen to travis. The man speaks wisdom. Personal anecdote:

I am always myself. Unshowered, unshaved, bad breath, only cares about games. So when my friend walks in and asks me "wanna get lunch? [Female classmate] and her roommate are coming too," I nod (cuz hunger gets in the way of sustained gaming) and finish my game, and we go to pick them up. My friend has showered and dressed pretty well - I'm still in my slippers and... well, I'm me. Afterwards he informs me that this is a big no-no, and it was extremely rude of me to do this.

WELL, I'M HAPPY WITH THE RESULTS. I STILL GOT MY GAMES.

(No, this post was not meant to be insightful, helpful, or hurtful.)
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
July 30 2008 01:45 GMT
#40
On July 30 2008 10:36 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2008 10:17 YanGpaN wrote:
On July 30 2008 08:46 semioldguy wrote:
On July 30 2008 08:13 GeneralStan wrote:
Because I've been told my whole goddamned life to be myself. I'm a nice person. I confess. Its my overarching personality flaw.

I've also been told for most of my life that to get a girl that being myself is a good way to go. So we find later that that's a bunch of bullshit, and we can't actually be ourselves and get girls.

I'm disillusion and frustrated by this reveloation. Why should I have to be a worse person who isn't myself to get girls?


"Just be yourself" is one of the worst pieces of advice ever given. It's the response people give when they really don't have any advice for you. If it's a problem that can be solved by being yourself, then there shouldn't have been a problem to begin with.

Again it seems like you're manipulating women this way, but the truth of the matter is that you're manipulating women anyways by being nice and generous. You have the mindset that "I want her, so I'm going to be nice to her" which is already maniplative.



uh, unless you're actually nice to everyone.

/gasp


heh thats arguable, even though you may be nice to everyone. When you meet a hot girl you have the mindset of "I'm being nice to her, so she can return it to me sometime". You're not being nice just to be yourself, but you have a purpose of it, and therefore is manipulating.
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