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I wrote it for Razer Blueprint initially, but the Salmosa's target audience is really RTS gamers. Also that a few people have asked me about it. So I hope it helps you guys if Salmosa is the right mouse for you.
Here goes:
Salmosa is definitely the smallest and light weighted mouse that Razer has released(well kinda released). It's definitely as advertise, "Designed to be one of the lightest and most compact mice of its class, it is the ideal mouse of choice for finger-tip grip gamers who seek both speed and control." You definitely don't want to palm grip this thing, it's just too small for that type of style.
First thing you'll notice about the Salmosa is that it only has 2 buttons and a mousewheel. There are no side buttons like other Razer products. That's definitely because Razer wants to keep this mouse as simple as possible. Second, you'll notice that the buttons are not covered by a special fancy rubber that we are familiar with other Razer mice such as Deathadder, Diamondback, etc.. The mice chassis is basically entirely plastic, I wonder if it has to do with making it as light weighted as it is. Its side is coated with gloss that gives that mice Ferrari look to it, similar to the Deathadder or Lachesis.
One of Razer's goal for this mice is that it is built to work perfectly without special drivers. So you can bring the mouse to a tournament/lan party without having to worry to install some special Razer driver. Incidentally, the mouse is also not packaged with a driver cd. Though, this could change for the Worldwide release of the mouse. The mouse does conveniently have a DPI switch in its back, it has two options of 800dpi and 1800dpi. Some people have worried that you might toggle it by accident. Don't worry, it is not a concern at all. The switch is a solid tight and you would not easily toggle it by accident.
The shape of Salmosa is very conventional for a mouse. It's shaped to fit a "fingertip grip" gamer. What is kind of special about the Salmosa is the size of its buttons. As I mentioned, they are plastic buttons that you would get from any old 5 dollars mouse. But the button is versatile enough that you can click from the front of the button to the back. Just imagine Deathadder's button with a body of a Salmosa. Though one thing to note is that Salmosa's button is not quite as loose as many of the newer Razer mice, basically it takes a little more force to push. But don't get me wrong, it's still very flexible and effortless, the feel is just not quite the same.
I do want to mention the only potential problem with the build of the mouse. This occurred when I first started using the mouse. My finger tip was sometimes placed at the very front tip of the mouse buttons. When I pushed to click, the back of the mouse would sometimes tip upward as if you suddenly put a lot of weight in a front of a boat to make it wobble. Basically this is a balance issue with the mouse due to its lightness and with the fingertip grip, but I had soon eliminated that problem by not placing my fingers that far to the front.
Lastly, I do want to mention the few things that you should expect from Salmosa. Its mousewheel is very solid, it's covered with nice comfortable rubber. It's as you should expect from a Razer mouse. The mouse feet are covered with the same smooth material as other industry standards, so you shouldn't need to get any special mouse skates to replace them. Salmosa should work perfect well with any mousepad you had use with your old Razer 3g(or not) mice.
Basically Salmosa is built for gamers who wants to have the most compact, light weighted, precise mouse in the market. It is hands down the best that fits that description. It is NOT for everyone! Starcraft/Warcraft/RTS players realizes how smaller mice gives them that extra precision and control, this mouse definitely serves that need. The Logitech Mini Optical(a favorite among top Starcraft pro-gamers) is limited by its outdated optical sensor. For most part, the LMO will serve your purpose but as game screen resolution goes up, the more software guesswork needs to be done to scale for the mouse. Salmosa is the first of its kind by Razer to try to satisfy the need for a specific group of gamers looking for a specific kind of mouse. I am definitely very satisfied with this mouse because that's exactly what I was looking for. It's not fancy but it gets the job done(very well). I hope this review help someone decide if Salmosa is the right mouse for you.
I mentioned how small the mouse is, but here are some pics I took.
More mice comparison: http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb315/SirNeb/5micecompare.jpg
Take a look at the scale: http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb315/SirNeb/sizecompare.jpg
edit:
I added height comparisons to the deathadder and the logitech mini optical:
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb315/SirNeb/heightcompare1.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb315/SirNeb/heightcompare2.jpg
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On July 17 2008 07:01 Goosey wrote:
Your links are broken.
Thanks friend! Ya I forgot to fix it after I copied it.
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Nice review, makes me want it all the more now. Out of curiosity, you don't happen to know how it performs on a first edition icemat do you? >_>. I've been trying to find this out for like a month because I'm needing a new mouse but I freaking love my icemat. Laser mice tend to be very picky with it so I really want to make sure before I buy, you know? Some mice seem to work perfectly with it (MX Revolution) and others seem to hate it. (G7)
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On July 17 2008 07:37 Tropics wrote:
Nice review, makes me want it all the more now. Out of curiosity, you don't happen to know how it performs on a first edition icemat do you? >_>. I've been trying to find this out for like a month because I'm needing a new mouse but I freaking love my icemat. Laser mice tend to be very picky with it so I really want to make sure before I buy, you know? Some mice seem to work perfectly with it (MX Revolution) and others seem to hate it. (G7)
Sorry, I don't know because I don't have an icemat. The easiest way to know how it will work is search for other Razer 3g sensor mice(DeathAdder, Diamondback 3g) and reviews on the icemat, if those mice performs well on it, I should perform just as well with the Salmosa since Salmosa uses the same 3g infrared sensor.
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Haven't tried it out yet but I like 80% of all Razer products. So I would assume its good.
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Damn that's a small mouse!
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
wow sweet lol it looks sweet i might actualyl get it cuz i used a logitech mini optical laptop mouse and i think its around that size
but damn i dont really SC a lot now >_>
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Looks really nice but I wouldn't use it...Copperhead forever
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If my wife didn't promise to buy it for my birthday, I'd've bid $60 on it. =P
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On July 17 2008 13:03 Vedic wrote:
If my wife didn't promise to buy it for my birthday, I'd've bid $60 on it. =P
I hope Razer releases it before your birthday. Third quarter is what they said. Well then again women have their ways with goods, so she'll probably find a way.. hehe.
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I hope Razer releases it before your birthday. Third quarter is what they said. Well then again women have their ways with goods, so she'll probably find a way.. hehe.
Do you happen to have a pic from the side (compared to other mice) or lit up?
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Vedic, which mouse do you want to see it compared to? I was asked this earlier also. I'll can take one for you and post it later.
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On July 17 2008 14:18 SirNeb wrote:
Vedic, which mouse do you want to see it compared to? I was asked this earlier also. I'll can take one for you and post it later.
I'm currently using the Razer Krait.
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I don't have a krait but I'll take a sideview with a deathadder and the logitech mini optical tomorrow.
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The DA should be about the same. Thanks! <3
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krait is smaller than DA, but you get the idea.. 
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On July 18 2008 02:34 SirNeb wrote:krait is smaller than DA, but you get the idea..
Due to the original ad on the razer site, it looked like it would be shaped just like the Krait, and I figured that if my Krait died, I might as well get one that had a better sensor. This is even better than I had hoped. <3
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Thanks for the review.
I was using Razer Krait before it stopped working after 9 months. I hope the new Salmosa is more durable than Krait. However there are significant difference between Salmosa and Krait in terms of shape and dimensions.
Krait dimensions: 120mm (length) x 60.5mm (width) x 37mm (height)
Salmosa (EU/US version): 115mm (length) x 63mm (width) x 37mm (height)
Salmosa (China Version): 95.9mm x 54.4mm x 33.3mm
So i was interesting to hear opinion on how is Salmosa in playing SC compared to Krait. The feelin of Krait in my hand was it is too tiny (60.5 width) for stable micro and a bit too long (120mm lenght) for fast movements up and down on the screen.
It seems that Salmosa is exactly what I imagine as a good mouse for SC (+2.5mm width, -5mm lenght), but when I saw the comparision to DeathAdder, Logitech Mini Optical (and so on) posted by SirNeb I was a bit amused how small that mouse look even compared to Logitech Mini Optical ?!
SirNeb, can you give us some more information on how is that mouse on playing SC? Are the shape and feel in hand better than Logitech Mini Optical for example, becouse I was feeling Krait a bit unstable in hand (due to small dimensions, lightness and tiny width)...
I've heard that bigger mouse like DA is not suitable for SC (and RTS at all). Which is the mouse you feel most confident in SC? If you have to buy only one mouse mainly for SC without considering prices, which one would you get - DeathAdder, Lachesis or Salmosa? Thanks
Edit: I found that the mouse on the picture is chinese version, which is noticably smaller than the US/EU version.
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nassot, if the krait was too small for you, I'm pretty sure the chinese Salmosa is way WAY too small.
As far as my thoughts on the mouse with starcraft, I think it performs "smoother" than the logitech mini optical for obvious reasons and I love the small size. I play around ~170ish apm, but it works great and definitely feel like I can target units better. Though as far as apm, it hasn't changed much since the logitech but I feel the transition from the LMO is almost natural. The feel of the Salmosa compared to the LMO is just basically summed up to "lighter" and "smaller". I find that generally better and as I said, the transition was very smooth due to the "finger grip" type.
The thing with RTS games are that you primarily would use a "finger grip" to have the most amount of control. You rarely ever have to worry about lifting off the mouse during the game. Basically, the smaller mice would be more ideal for better control. This is why the LMO is so popular among the pros. For SC, it's definitely hands down Salmosa(maybe the US version if you have a large hand) among those mice listed. The price is great and has the same sensor as the Deathadder. DA is awesome and one of my favorite mice, but it's a little too big. Only thing you'll miss on the Salmosa is the extra buttons. Lachesis is terrible (and yes I have one), I don't even want to get into it unless someone is considering one.
I was a little hesitant to sell my last Salmosa on ebay since I really like this mouse and this smaller version won't be available outside Asia. Maybe some thought I was a little bias before about the mouse review since I was selling a couple at the time, but the truth is that I still love it and I stand by everything I said then.
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Could you do a comparison with a logitech MX500/510? I believe it's roughly the same size at the G7 and some of their other newer mice too.
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Calgary25977 Posts
Why do you have a loonie if you're from the US?
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I thought people used smaller mice in starcraft cause asians generally have small hands, not because a small mouse is adapted for the game structure?
Personally I like to grasp it with my whole hand, not with just my fingertips, so I don't think this mouse is for me. I thought my diamondback was way too small.
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On August 21 2008 23:23 Phyre wrote:
Could you do a comparison with a logitech MX500/510? I believe it's roughly the same size at the G7 and some of their other newer mice too.
MX500 is roughly the size of the intelliexplorer 3 if you aren't aware of that. I believe the US salmosa is going to be slighter smaller than that, but not much smaller.
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No extra buttons = no purchase for me.
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Can anybody help me out?
I just bought a Salmosa and I really like it, but I find that I get a really large lift-off distance (~4-5mm) when I use it on my Goliathus Speed mat. I think the mat's the problem, because when I use the mouse on my bare desk I get virtually NO lift-off!
So, can anyone recommend me a mat which works very well with the Salmosa (most important - very little lift-off!)?
Thanks.
-K.
P.s. Sorry for bumping an old thread, but I just registerd on the site and I can't make new ones yet
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You are lifting your mouse off of the mat? More than likely you had a really heavy mouse before and you were used to lifting it slightly to move it. Give the salmosa about a week to get used to (took me about 2-3 weeks to get fully comfortable with it, now it's my fav mouse).
Yeah it's not the mouse pad b/c I have the same mouse pad as well and I am not lifting it off of the pad. You are just probably getting used to the salmosa is all.
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I think we've misunderstood each other, lol!
I'm talking about the distance above the mat you have to hold the mouse for the sensor to stop reading. A really good mouse/mat combo means that it stops reading when you lift the mouse just 1mm above the mat, bad combos result in needing to lift more than 6mm for the sensor to stop reading.
This is a problem because it results in your cursor moving when you don't want it to and is very bad for FPS and RTS games.
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United States22883 Posts
I can't help you with a pad suggestion, but you could try putting on mouse skates.
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On August 11 2009 06:52 k1ssinger wrote:
I think we've misunderstood each other, lol!
I'm talking about the distance above the mat you have to hold the mouse for the sensor to stop reading. A really good mouse/mat combo means that it stops reading when you lift the mouse just 1mm above the mat, bad combos result in needing to lift more than 6mm for the sensor to stop reading.
This is a problem because it results in your cursor moving when you don't want it to and is very bad for FPS and RTS games.
lol no we didn't understand each other. Lifting the mouse off of the pad right = distance above the mat no?
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