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I just did this last night and I thought I'd share this with TL.net if anybody's interested. 
Basically, if you defragment your computer, it'll defragment everything except your boot files, meaning that if you've noticed your computer doesn't start up as fast as it did when you first got it (or reformatted), that means the boot files need defragmenting.
Here's the original article I read, it's simple to follow.
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED: Defrag Boot Files by Command Line. Not a lot of people know about the following command line, but what it does is defragment your boot files and moves applications to a faster location on your HDD. It can really improve boot time whether you're doing it from a clean install or not. I did it on my desktop computer and it decreased boot time by 43 seconds! Here are the steps: 1. Click Start. 2. Then click Run... 3. Type in "cmd.exe" (without quotes). 4. Hit the Enter key. The following window should pop up (yours should look similar): 5. Now type in "defrag c: -b" (without quotes): 6. Hit the Enter key. DO NOT CLOSE THAT WINDOW YET 7. Now right-click on your taskbar. 8. Select Task Manager. 9. Switch over to the Processes tab. 10. Sort the processes by Image Name by clicking on that column. 11. Identify these two processes: NOW WAIT FOR THEM TO DISAPPEAR, IT MAY TAKE AWHILE BUT BE PATIENT. 12. Once they are gone, close Task Manager. 13. Switch over to the original cmd.exe window. 14. Type in "exit" (without quotes). 15. Hit the Enter key and the window will close. 16. Download JkDefrag. (no installation required to run the program) 17. Restart into safe mode. (keep tapping F8 while it's booting; select safe mode) 18. Double click on the "JkDefrag" application (not jkdefragcmd, etc.) and let it finish its process. 19. Restart and rejoice!
Hope this helped, my computer shuts off and turns on a LOT faster.
EDIT: A little note about step 11, if you open up your Task Manager and don't see the two processes then it's most likely already finished, I remember getting confused at that step when my computer had already finished completing those two processes.
Another note, running JkDefrag takes a LONG time, you should allow about 2-4 hours (I just went to bed and it was complete this morning) for it to finish.
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Is this better than just using the disk defragmenter program that comes as default?
edit:nvm
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thanks Equinox, I'll try it out!
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Did it and even though I didn't notice any visible effects I still feel more comfortable with my computer now. 
thanks~
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Is it safe to do this on Vista, Equinox? Because I see that the screens are taken from XP. And if someone did this on Vista, can you say is there any improvement? Thank you in advance, Equinox   .
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jkdefrag takes a REALLY long time. and my comp was already defragged. can't it just do the system/boot files only?
i thot the cmomand prompt did the defragging. why is jk defrag necessary? thx
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The command line part took about 5 minutes, now the JKDefrag has been running ~1 hour and it's 50% done (it's on the other computer). Hopefully it will help a lot because that computer literally takes about 5 minutes to start up. I will relay the results after it has finished! Thanks for the information and guide Equinox
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what does JK Defrag do that's better than the Vista default defragger?
and also, does the (-b dos defrag)+(JK Defrag) = cover everything in defragging?
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hm.. no significant difference in speed noticed. =/ maybe mine was already at it's optimum, and it'll still help those taking 5 minutes to load.
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On June 23 2008 02:29 crabapple wrote:
hm.. no significant difference in speed noticed. =/ maybe mine was already at it's optimum, and it'll still help those taking 5 minutes to load.
If you want to reduce startup time, probably the best solution is to reduce the number of automatic startup programs that you have. There's a lot of crapware on these new computers and it's probably a big help if you just go:
run->msconfig->under services/startup, uncheck everything that you don't want to start up when you start up. I bet that helps a lot more.
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On June 23 2008 02:38 thunk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2008 02:29 crabapple wrote:
hm.. no significant difference in speed noticed. =/ maybe mine was already at it's optimum, and it'll still help those taking 5 minutes to load. If you want to reduce startup time, probably the best solution is to reduce the number of automatic startup programs that you have. There's a lot of crapware on these new computers and it's probably a big help if you just go: run->msconfig->under services/startup, uncheck everything that you don't want to start up when you start up. I bet that helps a lot more.
Thanks! So services tab and startup tab both have the programs automatically start at the beginning? The biggest problem I feel is that I just checked and had no idea what 95% of the programs there did.
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The boot defrag is automatically done by windows every three days
Some data on an NTFS partition may become corrupted after you restart a Windows XP-based computer that uses a SATA hard disk drive. This is not a JkDefrag bug but a Microsoft defragmentation API bug. Microsoft have released a bugfix, see: Bugfix 941715. - from the JkDefrag known issues.
Basically you can use your favourite defrag program instead of it. It's just the windows defrag set to "fast" optimization, designed to be run daily.
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Why JkDefrag? What's better about it? What about the command line version for full defrag? Isn't that good enough?
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On June 23 2008 02:58 Superiorwolf wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2008 02:38 thunk wrote:On June 23 2008 02:29 crabapple wrote:
hm.. no significant difference in speed noticed. =/ maybe mine was already at it's optimum, and it'll still help those taking 5 minutes to load. If you want to reduce startup time, probably the best solution is to reduce the number of automatic startup programs that you have. There's a lot of crapware on these new computers and it's probably a big help if you just go: run->msconfig->under services/startup, uncheck everything that you don't want to start up when you start up. I bet that helps a lot more. Thanks! So services tab and startup tab both have the programs automatically start at the beginning? The biggest problem I feel is that I just checked and had no idea what 95% of the programs there did.
I don't either but just to be safe I left all the Microsoft programs. It hasn't failed me yet. Yet.
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On June 23 2008 02:58 Superiorwolf wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2008 02:38 thunk wrote:On June 23 2008 02:29 crabapple wrote:
hm.. no significant difference in speed noticed. =/ maybe mine was already at it's optimum, and it'll still help those taking 5 minutes to load. If you want to reduce startup time, probably the best solution is to reduce the number of automatic startup programs that you have. There's a lot of crapware on these new computers and it's probably a big help if you just go: run->msconfig->under services/startup, uncheck everything that you don't want to start up when you start up. I bet that helps a lot more. Thanks! So services tab and startup tab both have the programs automatically start at the beginning? The biggest problem I feel is that I just checked and had no idea what 95% of the programs there did.
msconfig should include the most common(*) startup locations, but I wouldn't use it to manage services. Use Run -> "services.msc" for that (there's probably also a way to launch it from the control center). There you also have more options. This tool might not exist in the "home" versions of Windows though because it's usually too advanced for normal users to care about.
* "most common" because there are a ton of possibilities to autostart an application in Windows, unfortunately. Windows is insanely complex under the hood. Take a look at this:
http://forums.subratam.org/index.php?showtopic=1063
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Thanks man
this should come in handy =]
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-_- I just did it and it really took FOREVERRRR... I thought it would be done after Phase 2: Defragment but then it started doing some fixup, zone 1 optimization, zone 2 optimization, zone 3 optimization, phase 3 fixup, and omg it just kept repeating everything for 5 hours so I just turned it off. I think it helped a bit (20 secs) in computer start up but otherwise nothing else. For the msconfig, I didn't know what the programs did so I was only able to pick like, 2 to turn off.
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On June 23 2008 06:50 Superiorwolf wrote:
-_- I just did it and it really took FOREVERRRR... I thought it would be done after Phase 2: Defragment but then it started doing some fixup, zone 1 optimization, zone 2 optimization, zone 3 optimization, phase 3 fixup, and omg it just kept repeating everything for 5 hours so I just turned it off. I think it helped a bit (20 secs) in computer start up but otherwise nothing else. For the msconfig, I didn't know what the programs did so I was only able to pick like, 2 to turn off.
Yea, I warned you it'd take a long time haha
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Omg I thought that by "long" it meant like 5-6 hours. It's been running for 8 hours and it's still at 7%. At this rate it will take a whole week. Is this normal? It's kinda annoying that I won't be able to use my desktop for 1 week and that I have to stick to my laptop.
I have a 500gb hd with FAT32 format, and it is mostly filled with movies, vods, a whole load of seasons of every tv show you can think of, some games and then the rest is just for graphic design. I know the FAT32 format slows down the process, but haven't ever read about taking up to 100 hours to defrag. Maybe movie files are hard to defrag?
Anyways, is it safe to stop the jkdefrag program while its still degragmentating? Do you guys think that other defrag programs will make it happen faster? Maybe it's running so slow because of it being run under safety mode?
Please, I'd appreciate all kind of help. I also need to finish some design projects due to next month and I can't spare a single week. Thank you in advance.
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