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Defragmenting Boot Files

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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-22 15:09:06
June 22 2008 15:07 GMT
#1
I just did this last night and I thought I'd share this with TL.net if anybody's interested.

Basically, if you defragment your computer, it'll defragment everything except your boot files, meaning that if you've noticed your computer doesn't start up as fast as it did when you first got it (or reformatted), that means the boot files need defragmenting.

Here's the original article I read, it's simple to follow.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED: Defrag Boot Files by Command Line.

Not a lot of people know about the following command line, but what it does is defragment your boot files and moves applications to a faster location on your HDD. It can really improve boot time whether you're doing it from a clean install or not. I did it on my desktop computer and it decreased boot time by 43 seconds!

Here are the steps:

1. Click Start.
2. Then click Run...
3. Type in "cmd.exe" (without quotes).
4. Hit the Enter key.

The following window should pop up (yours should look similar):

[image loading]


5. Now type in "defrag c: -b" (without quotes):

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6. Hit the Enter key.

DO NOT CLOSE THAT WINDOW YET

7. Now right-click on your taskbar.
8. Select Task Manager.
9. Switch over to the Processes tab.
10. Sort the processes by Image Name by clicking on that column.
11. Identify these two processes:

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NOW WAIT FOR THEM TO DISAPPEAR, IT MAY TAKE AWHILE BUT BE PATIENT.

12. Once they are gone, close Task Manager.
13. Switch over to the original cmd.exe window.
14. Type in "exit" (without quotes).
15. Hit the Enter key and the window will close.
16. Download JkDefrag. (no installation required to run the program)
17. Restart into safe mode. (keep tapping F8 while it's booting; select safe mode)
18. Double click on the "JkDefrag" application (not jkdefragcmd, etc.) and let it finish its process.
19. Restart and rejoice!


Hope this helped, my computer shuts off and turns on a LOT faster.

EDIT: A little note about step 11, if you open up your Task Manager and don't see the two processes then it's most likely already finished, I remember getting confused at that step when my computer had already finished completing those two processes.

Another note, running JkDefrag takes a LONG time, you should allow about 2-4 hours (I just went to bed and it was complete this morning) for it to finish.

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JudgeMathis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Cuba1286 Posts
June 22 2008 15:18 GMT
#2
Thanks for the info.
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MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
June 22 2008 15:19 GMT
#3
Sysinternals System File Defragmenter:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897426.aspx

and you can avoid fragmentation of pagefile.sys by setting it to a fixed size somewhere in the controlpanel. Forgot where^^
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thoraxe
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-22 15:53:26
June 22 2008 15:48 GMT
#4
Is this better than just using the disk defragmenter program that comes as default?

edit:nvm
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Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
June 22 2008 15:51 GMT
#5
thanks Equinox, I'll try it out!
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6994 Posts
June 22 2008 16:29 GMT
#6
Did it and even though I didn't notice any visible effects I still feel more comfortable with my computer now.

thanks~
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
June 22 2008 16:47 GMT
#7
Is it safe to do this on Vista, Equinox? Because I see that the screens are taken from XP. And if someone did this on Vista, can you say is there any improvement? Thank you in advance, Equinox .
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
June 22 2008 16:57 GMT
#8
Pretty cool. About vista:

http://www.nerdgrind.com/disk-defragment-windows-vista-from-the-command-line/

Looks like JKdefrag works on Vista as well.

What does the command line business do versus the JKdegrag business do? They both advertise to do the same thing.

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crabapple
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States397 Posts
June 22 2008 16:59 GMT
#9
jkdefrag takes a REALLY long time. and my comp was already defragged. can't it just do the system/boot files only?

i thot the cmomand prompt did the defragging. why is jk defrag necessary? thx
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
June 22 2008 17:19 GMT
#10
The command line part took about 5 minutes, now the JKDefrag has been running ~1 hour and it's 50% done (it's on the other computer). Hopefully it will help a lot because that computer literally takes about 5 minutes to start up. I will relay the results after it has finished! Thanks for the information and guide Equinox
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Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
June 22 2008 17:27 GMT
#11
what does JK Defrag do that's better than the Vista default defragger?

and also, does the (-b dos defrag)+(JK Defrag) = cover everything in defragging?
crabapple
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States397 Posts
June 22 2008 17:29 GMT
#12
hm.. no significant difference in speed noticed. =/ maybe mine was already at it's optimum, and it'll still help those taking 5 minutes to load.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
June 22 2008 17:38 GMT
#13
On June 23 2008 02:29 crabapple wrote:
hm.. no significant difference in speed noticed. =/ maybe mine was already at it's optimum, and it'll still help those taking 5 minutes to load.



If you want to reduce startup time, probably the best solution is to reduce the number of automatic startup programs that you have. There's a lot of crapware on these new computers and it's probably a big help if you just go:

run->msconfig->under services/startup, uncheck everything that you don't want to start up when you start up. I bet that helps a lot more.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
June 22 2008 17:43 GMT
#14
Actually, searching around I found some other freeware defrag utilities... Anyone have experience with them?

Auslogics Disk Defrag 1.4.16
http://www.download.com/Auslogics-Disk-Defrag/3000-2094_4-10567503.html?tag=lst-3&cdlPid=10855558

Auslogics Registry Defrag 4.1.9
http://www.download.com/Auslogics-Registry-Defrag/3000-2094_4-10678033.html?tag=lst-8&cdlPid=10828793
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
June 22 2008 17:58 GMT
#15
On June 23 2008 02:38 thunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2008 02:29 crabapple wrote:
hm.. no significant difference in speed noticed. =/ maybe mine was already at it's optimum, and it'll still help those taking 5 minutes to load.



If you want to reduce startup time, probably the best solution is to reduce the number of automatic startup programs that you have. There's a lot of crapware on these new computers and it's probably a big help if you just go:

run->msconfig->under services/startup, uncheck everything that you don't want to start up when you start up. I bet that helps a lot more.

Thanks! So services tab and startup tab both have the programs automatically start at the beginning? The biggest problem I feel is that I just checked and had no idea what 95% of the programs there did.
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chiflutz
Profile Joined June 2006
Romania1025 Posts
June 22 2008 18:11 GMT
#16
The boot defrag is automatically done by windows every three days

Some data on an NTFS partition may become corrupted after you restart a Windows XP-based computer that uses a SATA hard disk drive. This is not a JkDefrag bug but a Microsoft defragmentation API bug. Microsoft have released a bugfix, see: Bugfix 941715. - from the JkDefrag known issues.

Basically you can use your favourite defrag program instead of it. It's just the windows defrag set to "fast" optimization, designed to be run daily.
kt violet Korea (South). July 27 2012 15:54. Posts 23
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
June 22 2008 18:15 GMT
#17
Why JkDefrag? What's better about it? What about the command line version for full defrag? Isn't that good enough?
"Eyes in the sky."
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
June 22 2008 18:42 GMT
#18
On June 23 2008 02:58 Superiorwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2008 02:38 thunk wrote:
On June 23 2008 02:29 crabapple wrote:
hm.. no significant difference in speed noticed. =/ maybe mine was already at it's optimum, and it'll still help those taking 5 minutes to load.



If you want to reduce startup time, probably the best solution is to reduce the number of automatic startup programs that you have. There's a lot of crapware on these new computers and it's probably a big help if you just go:

run->msconfig->under services/startup, uncheck everything that you don't want to start up when you start up. I bet that helps a lot more.

Thanks! So services tab and startup tab both have the programs automatically start at the beginning? The biggest problem I feel is that I just checked and had no idea what 95% of the programs there did.



I don't either but just to be safe I left all the Microsoft programs. It hasn't failed me yet. Yet.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-22 20:56:58
June 22 2008 20:53 GMT
#19
On June 23 2008 02:58 Superiorwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2008 02:38 thunk wrote:
On June 23 2008 02:29 crabapple wrote:
hm.. no significant difference in speed noticed. =/ maybe mine was already at it's optimum, and it'll still help those taking 5 minutes to load.



If you want to reduce startup time, probably the best solution is to reduce the number of automatic startup programs that you have. There's a lot of crapware on these new computers and it's probably a big help if you just go:

run->msconfig->under services/startup, uncheck everything that you don't want to start up when you start up. I bet that helps a lot more.

Thanks! So services tab and startup tab both have the programs automatically start at the beginning? The biggest problem I feel is that I just checked and had no idea what 95% of the programs there did.


msconfig should include the most common(*) startup locations, but I wouldn't use it to manage services. Use Run -> "services.msc" for that (there's probably also a way to launch it from the control center). There you also have more options. This tool might not exist in the "home" versions of Windows though because it's usually too advanced for normal users to care about.


* "most common" because there are a ton of possibilities to autostart an application in Windows, unfortunately. Windows is insanely complex under the hood. Take a look at this:
http://forums.subratam.org/index.php?showtopic=1063
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 22 2008 20:59 GMT
#20
Thanks man

this should come in handy =]
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