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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
June 16 2008 02:52 GMT
#21
oakhill is currently the worst poster on TL

its not even fucking close
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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
June 16 2008 03:01 GMT
#22
Banned
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
June 16 2008 03:29 GMT
#23
I suppose you were prepared for flames when you posted that on an SC forum XD. I'll try to respond seriously. I'm pretty sure WC3 is more different from SC2 than SC1 is. WC3 is missing the macro psychology that's so important in SC and can be assumed to be equally important in SC2. Sure, the mechanics might be easier but without the fundamental mindset, you won't be any good. Not only that, WC3 isn't nearly as competitive as SC. The best WC3 players just haven't been exposed to as much hard-core competition as SC players.
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
June 16 2008 03:33 GMT
#24
On June 16 2008 11:00 ret wrote:
war3 players will be wandering around the map looking for creeps while sc players laugh and destroy their base.


QFT. Thank you ret.
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clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
June 16 2008 03:33 GMT
#25
Caller: LOL >_<
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OakHill
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States168 Posts
June 16 2008 03:37 GMT
#26
On June 16 2008 11:44 HamerD wrote:
FUck that shit you have to be kdiding me. Any starcraft gosu would ROLL over all WC3 competition no problem. In case ppl hadn't realised wc3 is much easier to learn than sc, and its timings and strats are much easier too. And if you REALLy

REALLY


REALLY

think that grubby or moon could do as well as jaedong boxer flash nada oov july bisu etcetc at micro in wc3 then I think you are probably slightly insane because if you just watch the speed and accuracy of their clicks and their ability to multitask it clearly outranks any wc3 player. Add in the fact that (I think almost certainly) SC has more strategic depth and you get a game that any SC gosu could easily master and dominate at...imo.


Have you heard of Elky? One of the best Starcraft players of his time was a terrible failure when he tried Warcraft and then made the move from War3 failure to poker. I expect the same from jaedon flash nada july bisu etc etc when SCII ships.
OakHill
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States168 Posts
June 16 2008 03:44 GMT
#27
On June 16 2008 12:29 B1nary wrote:
I suppose you were prepared for flames when you posted that on an SC forum XD. I'll try to respond seriously. I'm pretty sure WC3 is more different from SC2 than SC1 is. WC3 is missing the macro psychology that's so important in SC and can be assumed to be equally important in SC2. Sure, the mechanics might be easier but without the fundamental mindset, you won't be any good. Not only that, WC3 isn't nearly as competitive as SC. The best WC3 players just haven't been exposed to as much hard-core competition as SC players.


WC3 is more competitive in every region of the world except South Korea. BUT I will not argue SC is a much harder game that requires far more skill... 14 hours of training a day just to compete is insane but I am confident SCII will not require this kind of "slavery" to be among the upper echelon of players simply because of the drastic changes in macromanagement.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-16 03:54:37
June 16 2008 03:53 GMT
#28
On June 16 2008 12:37 OakHill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2008 11:44 HamerD wrote:
FUck that shit you have to be kdiding me. Any starcraft gosu would ROLL over all WC3 competition no problem. In case ppl hadn't realised wc3 is much easier to learn than sc, and its timings and strats are much easier too. And if you REALLy

REALLY


REALLY

think that grubby or moon could do as well as jaedong boxer flash nada oov july bisu etcetc at micro in wc3 then I think you are probably slightly insane because if you just watch the speed and accuracy of their clicks and their ability to multitask it clearly outranks any wc3 player. Add in the fact that (I think almost certainly) SC has more strategic depth and you get a game that any SC gosu could easily master and dominate at...imo.


Have you heard of Elky? One of the best Starcraft players of his time was a terrible failure when he tried Warcraft and then made the move from War3 failure to poker. I expect the same from jaedon flash nada july bisu etc etc when SCII ships.

wut?
Didn't Elky win the first and only "OSL" for WC3 and quit because he thought the game fucking sucks?

Oh and yeah I believe the best players will be those who concentrate on practicing the most and not the ones who come from a specific game.

Koreans from professional teams obviously have the upper hand in this situation because they have a house full of other players willing to play pretty much all the time, coaches who take care they practice enough and things like that.
FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5008 Posts
June 16 2008 04:03 GMT
#29
What,do tell, does a troll eat anyway?
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Balloon-Man-FuDD/237447769616965?ref=hl
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2902 Posts
June 16 2008 04:26 GMT
#30
moon has the apm

and sc players will rule sc2 so this is irrelivant
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
June 16 2008 06:06 GMT
#31
I honestly think you are all wrong. Sc2 will have its own generation of progamers. I really can't see any of the pros from either game making into the major leagues. Maybe I'll be eating these words some day. But we'll leave that to time.
Not bad for a cat toy.
Ryot
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada316 Posts
June 16 2008 06:11 GMT
#32
Only good SC players will keep good game sense when switching over to SC2. Even if mechanically the game is simpler and bridges the gap, other players just aren't gonna know what's going on. They're not gonna be finding exact timings on builds and that sort of stuff, because that's just a Starcraft thing.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
June 16 2008 06:21 GMT
#33
FragKrag knows OakHill has severe mental problems.

-FragKrag
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
June 16 2008 06:50 GMT
#34
On June 16 2008 11:00 ret wrote:
war3 players will be wandering around the map looking for creeps while sc players laugh and destroy their base.

Moderator。◕‿◕。
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 16 2008 07:23 GMT
#35
War 3 players will stick to an economy of 5 and fail miserably.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 16 2008 09:31 GMT
#36
On June 16 2008 15:06 Krohm wrote:
I honestly think you are all wrong. Sc2 will have its own generation of progamers. I really can't see any of the pros from either game making into the major leagues. Maybe I'll be eating these words some day. But we'll leave that to time.

haha way to be different, fully support here!
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0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
June 16 2008 11:16 GMT
#37
That's just bullshit.
a) Gameplay is supposed to be much more similar to SC than WC3
b) Gameplay might still be different enough that both SC and WC3 players will have a hard time adjusting. Completely new players or players from other games might have an easier start with SC2
vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
June 16 2008 11:20 GMT
#38
trolling is sooo last year
Moderatorfollow me on twitter if u think ur so tough @BooyaCow
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25981 Posts
June 16 2008 13:03 GMT
#39
Well, judging by your post history, you are active in the WC3 community. All I'll say is that high level players from both games have said it's easier to go from SC to WC3. So the step down from SC2 will be easier than the step up from WC3. In the edge, the top SC2 players won't have much experience with either SC or WC3.
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Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
June 16 2008 17:26 GMT
#40
Since there sadly will be automine and mbs I may have to agree =/

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