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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
June 09 2008 19:20 GMT
#1
The only result from you spamming right click with your scv on my probe is me laughing at you. Your fusion cutters are already super fucking fast. This most retarded form of useless micro is absolutely hilarious. I wonder how much other completely useless shit these "Terran-takes-the-most-APM-and-is-the-hardest-race" players occupy their time with during a game.

You guys all sucked since the moment you picked Terran and there's nothing you can do about it.

**
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-09 19:23:36
June 09 2008 19:22 GMT
#2
What do you occupy your time with, Mr. 65% redundant actions?
Adams Æbler
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6641 Posts
June 09 2008 19:25 GMT
#3
Yeah people still believe that doing that speeds up their attack, for the last time people IT DOES FUCKING NOTHING!
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
June 09 2008 19:28 GMT
#4
What the fuck does "65% redundant actions" mean? I don't occupy my time with anything I know to be completely useless. Anytime I'm doing ineffectual actions with my hands, I'm still doing something useful with my eyes and/or brain. Or if I'm completely useless for a period of time, it's sure as hell not because I'm doing something completely useless while under the impression that I'm doing something really gosu simply because I don't know my own peon's rate of fire.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
cSf.Vicek
Profile Joined January 2004
Czech Republic271 Posts
June 09 2008 19:31 GMT
#5
you've just wasted your time writing this article
iLjh
Profile Joined February 2008
United States160 Posts
June 09 2008 19:36 GMT
#6
...

what's the point of your existence again?
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
June 09 2008 19:37 GMT
#7
Redundant actions are actions not contributing directly to the game, such as mindlessly clicking buildings or cycling through hotkeys very quickly. As you surely know, those actions are displayed in BWChart, and you, while having around 330 APM, only have around 140 EAPM (effective APM). Thus, 180 of your 330 APM are marked as redundant. Whilst not all of them may be completely useless, a lot certainly are. Thus, you're occupying spare time with mindlessly clicking..
Adams Æbler
nofAcedAgent
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States952 Posts
June 09 2008 19:38 GMT
#8
I dont think your angry enough - try again
Viledica
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada361 Posts
June 09 2008 19:38 GMT
#9
So why do you care?

As long as you win shouldn't you be happy that they're wasting their time giving you opportunity to win? Just let the children be children as long as they're not hurting anyone.
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
June 09 2008 19:38 GMT
#10
When are you gonna change your terran icon btw?
Do you really want chat rooms?
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6641 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-10 13:23:09
June 09 2008 19:40 GMT
#11
Did you ever think that there might be a reason why all high level gamers constantly cycle through their keys/production facilities? Double checking that all buildings are producing units? Looking at what's happening with your units?
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
June 09 2008 19:41 GMT
#12
I wouldn't call cycling through your hotkeyes to keep an eye on what is where with how much health useless. Not to mention that doing that often keeps your hands fast at those actions so that when you need to call up those hotkeyes in the heat of battle you don't spaz out and missclick like crazy, or tell your gateways to attack your enemy or something like that.
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
June 09 2008 19:47 GMT
#13
On June 10 2008 04:40 jello_biafra wrote:
Did you ever think that there might be a reason why all high level gamers constantly cycle through their keys/production facilities? Double checking that all buildings are producing units? Looking at what's happening with your units?

Lol, don't get me wrong here, I cycle through my hotkeys as well, but I really look at them, while doing so. However, controlled hotkey-cycling doesn't give you a 55% upward redundancy in BWChart..
Adams Æbler
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 09 2008 19:54 GMT
#14
On June 10 2008 04:37 d1v wrote:
Redundant actions are actions not contributing directly to the game, such as mindlessly clicking buildings or cycling through hotkeys very quickly. As you surely know, those actions are displayed in BWChart, and you, while having around 330 APM, only have around 140 EAPM (effective APM). Thus, 180 of your 330 APM are marked as redundant. Whilst not all of them may be completely useless, a lot certainly are. Thus, you're occupying spare time with mindlessly clicking..

EAPM is a BS measurement. How can a program know whether or not an action accomplishes something in the game?
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 09 2008 19:55 GMT
#15
On June 10 2008 04:47 d1v wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2008 04:40 jello_biafra wrote:
Did you ever think that there might be a reason why all high level gamers constantly cycle through their keys/production facilities? Double checking that all buildings are producing units? Looking at what's happening with your units?

Lol, don't get me wrong here, I cycle through my hotkeys as well, but I really look at them, while doing so. However, controlled hotkey-cycling doesn't give you a 55% upward redundancy in BWChart..

Where do you view "redundancy" in BW chart?
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 09 2008 20:00 GMT
#16
I READ FUSION CUTTERS AND CAME HERE FOR A LAUGH. I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED WHEN NOT ONLY DID I GET SOME GOOD GOSSIP ON THE SONS OF TERA (cowards of terra) I FOUND NONY BEING AMBUSHED BY FAGS WHO SOMEHOW SURVIVED THE "APM DOESNT MATTER PURGE" of 2005-8.

WOW I AM SO LUCKY
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
June 09 2008 20:00 GMT
#17
On June 10 2008 04:37 d1v wrote:
Redundant actions are actions not contributing directly to the game, such as mindlessly clicking buildings or cycling through hotkeys very quickly. As you surely know, those actions are displayed in BWChart, and you, while having around 330 APM, only have around 140 EAPM (effective APM). Thus, 180 of your 330 APM are marked as redundant. Whilst not all of them may be completely useless, a lot certainly are. Thus, you're occupying spare time with mindlessly clicking..


Jeeeeesus talk about a useless measurement

And a big LOL at all the Terran users coming out. Doesn't your skin burn if it touches direct sunlight? Better go back into hiding.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
June 09 2008 20:01 GMT
#18
On June 10 2008 04:20 NonY[rC] wrote:


You guys all sucked since the moment you picked Terran and there's nothing you can do about it.


BRAT_OK would disagree. 3-1.
Pulp can move, baby!
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
June 09 2008 20:01 GMT
#19
Inc it's a tough life for us fighting off all this Terran pride... I don't know how we manage
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
UmmTheHobo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States650 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-09 20:05:49
June 09 2008 20:03 GMT
#20
On June 10 2008 04:20 NonY[rC] wrote:
The only result from you spamming right click with your scv on my probe is me laughing at you. Your fusion cutters are already super fucking fast. This most retarded form of useless micro is absolutely hilarious. I wonder how much other completely useless shit these "Terran-takes-the-most-APM-and-is-the-hardest-race" players occupy their time with during a game.

You guys all sucked since the moment you picked Terran and there's nothing you can do about it.


Its fun right clicking D: Every time you right click the scv makes a sound. Of course, it is more fun right clicking with probes because they make cute beeping noises. Its not fun right clicking with drones because they go "aegeaganvajfakguefhascnakf" and spit. The reason I picked protoss as my race is because the probes go "Beep boop bop bee boo boo beep bop".

YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL OF INTIMACY THAT PLAYERS HAVE WITH THEIR UNITS. UNTIL YOU FIGURE THIS OUT YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND STARCRAFT TO ITS FULLEST.
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