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Rofl go ahead
Your petition with your ONE signature
Good luck haha
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
A) Grow a brain B) Perhaps you haven't considered how much is being invested. This was not a decision by Razer, but rather by us. We are giving Razer a "bang for their buck" for lack of a better term and that includes the name and logo attached to media seen by the viewer...cant do that with a replay. C) Dont start a petition to Razer because it is simply part of the contract.
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adding on to kennigit's...
d) learn how to spell razer
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While your at it, start a petition to Kespa too, hahah, ur funny dude, but at the same time you are very disrespectful against Razer which is not so funny.
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Kennigit, please do not say shit like "Grow a brain". That would be like me saying if you had half a brain you would know that the potential exposure for Razer is much larger if there were VODs AND replays. Sad to see that you have such a narrow view of what is beneficial to the sponsor and what is not. Are you seriously not able to think of even one way to use the replays? Lets start with the most basic...rename all reps to RAZER-TSL-xxxxx.rep.
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Dude, just shut the fuck up... seriously.
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To clarify: Whether the reps get released or not means nothing to me.
But, as a supporter of TL and Razer, this seems to be a bad decision and they could get so much more exposure with proper release of the replays.
I cant understand why anyone thinks vods alone are superior so feel free to post your arguments
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Releasing reps means less VOD views.
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On May 12 2008 02:02 gusbear wrote: To clarify: Whether the reps get released or not means nothing to me.
But, as a supporter of TL and Razer, this seems to be a bad decision and they could get so much more exposure with proper release of the replays.
I cant understand why anyone thinks vods alone are superior so feel free to post your arguments
On May 11 2008 20:46 Manifesto7 wrote: Replays will not be released. It is part of our sponsorship deal. End of story.
On May 11 2008 20:46 Manifesto7 wrote: Replays will not be released. It is part of our sponsorship deal. End of story.
(Yes, I posted it two times, maybe he didn't get it the first time)
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Guys, please don't flame him unnecessarily. I would like to see the replays as well, but I fully respect the decision made by the TL.net staff, since they just want the best for the TSL, which also consists of having good relations to your sponsors. However, I just recently saw, that some Chinese league (PLU or something?) has maps, where the fog of war is partially removed in the beginning, to reveal said "PLU" letters. I think this has potential and could be considered for the next TSL, no?
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lol @ faggots who jump at bashing-bandwagon.
You can tell him one time without flaming the crap out of him, like "By releasing replays, we would get less VOD views, thus less promoting for our great sponsor! It's part of a deal, I hope you can enjoy it anyway :-)"
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bah, I was getting ready to post "OMG REPLAYS?!?!?" Anyways, what's wrong with just releasing the VOD's, and how exactly is this doing more harm than good?
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United States41555 Posts
On May 12 2008 02:23 d1v wrote: Guys, please don't flame him unnecessarily. I would like to see the replays as well, but I fully respect the decision made by the TL.net staff, since they just want the best for the TSL, which also consists of having good relations to your sponsors. However, I just recently saw, that some Chinese league (PLU or something?) has maps, where the fog of war is partially removed in the beginning, to reveal said "PLU" letters. I think this has potential and could be considered for the next TSL, no? Nice idea actually. Fill the replays with razer icons and put their logo on the map tiles themself (like in pringles?) and then they'll be as good as vods for adverts. I'd forgotten about that.
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On May 12 2008 01:45 Kennigit wrote: A) Grow a brain B) Perhaps you haven't considered how much is being invested. This was not a decision by Razer, but rather by us. We are giving Razer a "bang for their buck" for lack of a better term and that includes the name and logo attached to media seen by the viewer...cant do that with a replay. C) Dont start a petition to Razer because it is simply part of the contract.
A good idea would've been to edit the maps to have the Razer logo on the ground like they did for the Pringles MSL or something =O.
edit: oops I"m in idiot, didn't read the thread.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
I couldn't disagree more with the OP. With vods you go to the Razer-TSL site, you stare at a backdrop that has Razer advertisements on it and you generally look at Razer over and over. If you dl a replay you get perhaps half the advertisement and only once. They gave 10k more dollars. If they asked that the staff end every post with "Razer" like a signature they wouldn't be asking too much.
Please. Show some mental fortitude and realize the world goes beyond your limited and personal "needs." Replays would be nice, but we cant have em. Move on.
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On May 12 2008 02:10 SonuvBob wrote: Releasing reps means less VOD views. I havent seen the VODs so im not sure what kind of advertising there is in them. Well if its a 10 sec product clip or subtle name dropping and endorsement by the commentators, i agree this sort of advertising is hard to implement into replays. One way of doing something similar is to make the user navigate through a bunch of ads on the site before having access to the replays, but really this isn't a big deal.
The huge exposure you are missing out on are the people who do not watch vods, and people who do not know about TL or Razer, those are the people who should have priority. Like a guy who comes across a Razer TSL replay on some random replay site, or maybe it was given to him by a friend, whatever. He in turn gets to know about Razer and TL.net.
Everyone on TL.net knows about Razer and TSL, there is no need to advertise to these people any more. I hope you can see my point that replays are a much better tool than vods to get to those guys outside the community (who are the people that really matter), or those that would never have seen the vods anyway.
This is similar to the mp3 argument, where the ease of obtaining music allowed exposure to people who would not have even known about it and would have had zero chance of buying the cd.
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On May 12 2008 02:54 gusbear wrote:Everyone on TL.net knows about Razer and TSL. That doesn't mean that advertising to us is useless, I mean hell, after seeing what razer has done I'm buying myself a razer mouse as soon as I can :D (not trying to disagree with the rest of the points you're making, just that one).
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