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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
And now KTF is doing the same thing. Almost all of their wins come from Flash winning two games, and some loser like 815 winning one. They're not really a team anymore... they're just Flash + some washed up celebrities (who are admittedly still pretty sexy) + no names.  | ||
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Reflex
Canada703 Posts
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
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soudo
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RaGe
Belgium9945 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + shit you're right | ||
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fOrQQ
Hong Kong321 Posts
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Pepsicolaone
United States967 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
United States2869 Posts
but yeah, it is flash owning, but I'm happy WeMade actually has a semi solid line up now, if they can just harnass a good 2on2 team then they got it made. Mind, NaDa, and thye have some decent snipers iirc. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
Lucifer is a pretty good player too. 7-4 vs T and 9-6 overall record. That's nothing to laugh at. | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32269 Posts
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jkillashark
United States5262 Posts
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
Haha yeah I did forget about Hery, actually. It's like, when the KTF coach needs money, he can just bet against KTF, and then send in Hery for the ace match. | ||
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
On May 07 2008 09:29 infinity21 wrote: 815 is one solid player. I don't know wtf you're talking about. Look at his stats: 5-0 vs T and 75% overall win rate. I don't know how you can call him a loser -__- Lucifer is a pretty good player too. 7-4 vs T and 9-6 overall record. That's nothing to laugh at. They're doing OK, i suppose, but they still haven't really done a whole lot. I mean, a 100% win rate is nice, but when it's only 5 games, I'm inclined to call it luck. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
and his 10-1 record since his loss to FireFist last October. Is that luck too? I'm not a KTF fanboy or anything but to dismiss lucifer and 815 as crappy players who got lucky is a bit of a stretch. | ||
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arb
Noobville17920 Posts
Ra Reach and Yellow arent the most reliable of old schoolers either.. | ||
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
On May 07 2008 09:39 infinity21 wrote: How about 8-1 on Blue Storm with wins against players like Sea and Jaedong with only one loss to GGPlay? Is that luck? =/ and his 10-1 record since his loss to FireFist last October. Is that luck too? I'm not a KTF fanboy or anything but to dismiss lucifer and 815 as crappy players who got lucky is a bit of a stretch. OK I admit I'm exaggerating a bit. Still, if Flash were to break his wrist today, KTF would plummit to the bottom of the rankings. | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
And KTF has the strongest farm system out of all 11 proteams. Your assertions are utterly ridiculous. Even without Flash, they have 815, Lucifer, Violet, Tempest, Haran. | ||
Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
Now if only Nal_rA would stop sucking ... Also they have THIRTY new players to choose from - that's got to be enough new blood for anyone or anything. Tempest)Is(, Violet[Name], Stats, By.SaiR, By.RaiD, By.Barracks - they've all got good potential. | ||
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
On May 07 2008 09:30 jkillashark wrote: sAviOr sucks. How is this at all related? | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On May 07 2008 09:48 Last Romantic wrote: Now if only Nal_rA would stop sucking ... | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
 20hr/day on TL + live reporting should get you there in a few years. | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
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MoRe_mInErAls
Canada1210 Posts
On May 07 2008 09:35 Luddite wrote: They're doing OK, i suppose, but they still haven't really done a whole lot. I mean, a 100% win rate is nice, but when it's only 5 games, I'm inclined to call it luck. Have you watched all 5 of his games? Please tell me how you think he's lucky | ||
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IPS.ZeRo
Germany1142 Posts
That Team had a big change after all their oldschool players started sucking, but they got some talents and are back again. Of course flash does most of the work, but that isn't unusual at all. If you got one outstanding player you will of course make use of that. Oov brought many many wins to skt1, nada to pantech, savior to cj and so on. Their lineup isn't as deep as cj's yet, but they got some pretty good players to support flash and 815. The oldschoolers can still be used in 2on2 and are doing a decent job there. Lucifer on a 5 game winning streak against respectable opponents. Haran lost both of his games this season but you have to look at the opponents: Midas (who is doing very well this season) and Jaedong. I am sure Haran will get some wins against other opponents. Hery is no star player but he can get some wins. I think they can go very far with those players. Even win the proleague, by using Flash,815,lucifer,haran,yellow/oops,reach/zergboy in the playoffs. Maybe other 2on2 combinations, they are changing every time. | ||
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MorningMusume11
United States3490 Posts
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On May 07 2008 09:57 thedeadhaji wrote: I'd just set up a bot and spam some old liquibet threads tbh. Go for more 2ch thread translations  But yeah...KTF is really no worse than Lecaf if we wanted to consider the amount of times AT/ForGG/JD got played last season. So really a matter of time before players like 815 get more major league exposure and people will start saying that this is a "smart" strategy. Honestly, it would be nice if Haji really did start all-killing those threads. I'd pay to watch | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On May 07 2008 09:55 thedeadhaji wrote: Honestly though there are so many retarded uninformed posts like these in the broodwar and tournament section, I can't blame more and more people to start posting the same kind of dumb shit. I seriously need to abandon progaming arguments, because I could spend all day shooting down these shitty claims and never come close to finishing the task. ? From what I can tell, your argument was accepted by everyone and the op basically said he was exaggerating / venting. Although I'm certainly ignorant, there a plenty of people on TL like yourself who take the time to help absolve me of my ignorance. | ||
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1133 Posts
Has Jaedong/july-esque ZvT so beautiful, only a few Zerg carry that gift. Other than that, I dislike KTF..too many gay protoss/zerg for my liking. Flash is an incredible player of course, but I'm really indifferent about him, he's so perfect its boring. | ||
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intotherainx
United States504 Posts
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MasterReY
Germany2708 Posts
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Play
Australia608 Posts
But unlike other teams like samsung, lecaf, WeMade etc, Flash is their only super power, so how can you expect the coach to not play him :/ | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
Also what do u think of Lecaf winning their games last season mainly because of Jaedong and Anytime? If you look at the minor league, KTF has second place in that which shows future potential with new strong players for KTF. And theres nothing wrong with respecting old time greats such as Yellow, Reach, and Ra and cheering for their team. | ||
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