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rpf
United States2705 Posts
I'm not at all concerned with strength training; I'm concerned more with increasing my stamina and agility. I don't really exercise, so I'm not really sure where to start. I know I should stretch before I do anything to help prevent injuries. I should also stretch after I exercise, correct? So should I just go walk, do pushups, situps, etc.?   | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
NO DONT DO THAT! EAT UNHEALTHY FOOD AND DRINK AS MUCH MUD AS YOU CAN! I mean common? What the flying fuck? DID you really just fucking ask if you should stretch before exercising? Dont floss your teeth and make sure to wear your shoes untied. | ||
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rpf
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QuanticHawk
United States32132 Posts
And you're gonna need to do a lot more than walk man... their training isn't a joke. Get to the gym and really bust your ass. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Rpf if this isnt some kind of dark satire you have no chance in any kind of physical environment. How could someone possibly not know about stretching (as if that could ever be a bad thing) or that walking increases your fucking stamina or agility... wtf. | ||
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ZpuX
Sweden1230 Posts
 if your nearby gym has bootcamps and stuff like that go there, they are pretty good with a good leader. And If you wanna get a good stamina anytime soon (the next few months) you really need to work hard, run pretty much every day for an hour or two and other excerises. And for pushups, they are worthless it's alot better to go to a gym and lift weights instead, and there are alot better excerises for the abs than situps.You really have a tough time ahead of you! | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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ahrara_
Afghanistan1715 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Doing _anything_ that has your body move (that includes stretching) prior to an accelerated or stress inducing physical activity does some good. Don't tell me "stretching as injury prevention has been disproved." It doesn't INCREASE the chances of a fucking injury and even if it's benefits are relatively low in the specific realm of injury prevention it DOES help. Don't speak in absolutes. You will be right more often. | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 03 2008 02:48 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Uh Doing _anything_ that has your body move (that includes stretching) prior to an accelerated or stress inducing physical activity does some good. Don't tell me "stretching as injury prevention has been disproved." It doesn't INCREASE the chances of a fucking injury and even if it's benefits are relatively low in the specific realm of injury prevention it DOES help. Don't speak in absolutes. You will be right more often. I said warming up is a part of injury prevention and the actual stretching of the muscles does nothing to prevent injuries. In some cases, it doesn't even improve performance. The review of the basic science literature suggested five reasons why stretching before exercise would not prevent injuries. First, in animals, immobilization or heating-induced increases in muscle compliance cause tissues to rupture more easily. Second, stretching before exercise should have no effect for activities in which excessive muscle length is not an issue (e.g., jogging). Third, stretching won't affect muscle compliance during eccentric activity, when most strains are believed to occur. Fourth, stretching can produce damage at the cytoskeleton level. Fifth, stretching appears to mask muscle pain in humans. CONCLUSION: The basic science literature supports the epidemiologic evidence that stretching before exercise does not reduce the risk of injury. We can go on... | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Stretching has evidently never prevented an injury. It's just an old wives tale. loool | ||
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Chef
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OverTheUnder
United States2929 Posts
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Frits
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But seeing as you're overweight I'd just start running a lot and do lots of pushups. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32132 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On May 03 2008 01:46 {88}iNcontroL wrote: did you just ask if you should stretch before you exercise? NO DONT DO THAT! EAT UNHEALTHY FOOD AND DRINK AS MUCH MUD AS YOU CAN! I mean common? What the flying fuck? DID you really just fucking ask if you should stretch before exercising? Dont floss your teeth and make sure to wear your shoes untied. You don't stretch properly (that is, more than ~3 seconds for one muscle) before doing sports at least. Stretching relaxes the muscle and you don't want that before a game. So yeah, his question isn't all that stupid. I also thought you were a better troll than one having to resort to trolling rpf, come on dude, that's low. | ||
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JudgeMathis
Cuba1286 Posts
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Clutch3
United States1344 Posts
On May 03 2008 01:46 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I mean common? What the flying fuck? DID you really just fucking ask if you should stretch before exercising? I'm pretty sure he didn't. Read it again. I'm pretty sure he said "he knows" he has to stretch before exercising. And, stretching after exercise isn't, to my mind, common knowledge, which is what he was asking about. Stop looking for opportunities to troll. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32132 Posts
On May 03 2008 04:16 Orome wrote: I also thought you were a better troll than one having to resort to trolling rpf, come on dude, that's low. hahahah | ||
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kpcrew
Korea (South)1071 Posts
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rpf
United States2705 Posts
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LuMiX
China5757 Posts
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micronesia
United States24768 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
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you want to do dynamic stretches after or as part of a warmup, before your exercise you want to do your relaxed stretches afterwards and static stretching before exercise can be helpful, you just need to know what you're doing and why you're doing it | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9108 Posts
However, you can't just stretch cold. You need to warm up by doing some mid-speed jogging for a few laps like 1/2 mile to 1mile depending on how cold it is and then stretch once your muscles are warmed. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9108 Posts
On May 03 2008 03:05 Jibba wrote: I said warming up is a part of injury prevention and the actual stretching of the muscles does nothing to prevent injuries. In some cases, it doesn't even improve performance. We can go on... I don't care about your literature. Have you ever run a 100 meter dash with absolutely no warm-up in the cold? It would not be a good idea. I mean when Olympic athletes are dressed in sweats before their race even if it's 80 degrees (thats like 35 Celsius lol? iono) they have a reason for it. It's not that they like overheating themselves, they do it to prevent injury. Anyway, saying it's proved that stretching is pointless is a very brash statement. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
Yeah, that's what you sound like. You even admitted that you warm up before you stretch, and that's the key component to preventing injury. Stretching does not do much to warm your body up, and in some cases it can actually cause problems. Maybe you should spend less time sprinting and more time reading, because I never said stretching was useless. I said it's useless for injury prevention. Physiologists and medical researches > yuo.  | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On May 03 2008 06:17 rpf wrote: Judging from the last picture I saw of him, he doesn't. He's just reading Wikipedia. hahaha If I read wikipedia I'd still be fucking miles ahead of you in knowing jack shit about working out. Go fucking cry some more. That way you are funny to the rest at least. Here you are just fucking stupid. WALK AND PUSHUPS FOR AGILITY OR STAMINA? You need to wear a fucking helmet. Judging from my last picture I'm a fucking cartoon so yeah, I guess you can suggest I read wikipedia from that. Rofl stupid fuck. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 03 2008 07:08 {88}iNcontroL wrote: Here you are just fucking stupid. WALK AND PUSHUPS FOR AGILITY OR STAMINA? You need to wear a fucking helmet. J Inc > rpf | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
THE WORLD MAKES SENSE NOW. | ||
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gwho
United States632 Posts
On May 03 2008 01:30 rpf wrote: Okay so, I'm taking the civil service exam in June, which means if I'm offered employment I'll probably be off to the Academy at some point in the near future, which means I ought to try to do some stuff to prepare beforehand so I don't show up as the only overweight guy. I'm not at all concerned with strength training; I'm concerned more with increasing my stamina and agility. I don't really exercise, so I'm not really sure where to start. I know I should stretch before I do anything to help prevent injuries. I should also stretch after I exercise, correct? So should I just go walk, do pushups, situps, etc.? stretch AFTER you exercise. stretching BEFORE when your blood isn't flowing and stiff can damage you. but you dno't wnat to go all out either. the best way to stretch before exercising is to warm up by doing something like light running, or just getting your heart rate up, then doing mild stretches, then going all out. warm up -> stretch -> main workout -> stretch. never stretch all out first. usually, the main limiting factor that holds people back is not all these secondary precautions, but effort, mental willpower and working out hard enough. our bodies aren't inflexible machinery - they're much more versatile than that. it's all about pushing through the burn. forget special workout plans, and all that. that's micro. if you push yourself hard everyday, and just stick with a plan as simple as cadro one day, muscle toning the next, and just go really hard at it, you will get stronger and healthier. go for the macro, bro. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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gwho
United States632 Posts
On May 03 2008 07:23 {88}iNcontroL wrote: yeah never stretch just jump into an activity and go for it. Fuck physical trainers or sports science. in lots of things, people aren't for the thing itself, but money, which is their end. your end (a quality product/service) is their means. fuck greedy corporations. sports science in itself is not bad, but money is like a midas touch - it corrupts everything it touches, and the name itself comes to mean something else, rather than what it originally was. | ||
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G5
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