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kpcrew
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1071 Posts
May 02 2008 21:07 GMT
#21
i didnt know incontrol knew so much about exercise
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rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
May 02 2008 21:17 GMT
#22
Judging from the last picture I saw of him, he doesn't. He's just reading Wikipedia.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
May 02 2008 21:21 GMT
#23
your actually not suppose to stretch bc it doesnt help at all... your just sppose to do like wide-ranging motion which warms up the muscles...thats probably the wrong term but yea...
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24777 Posts
May 02 2008 21:35 GMT
#24
I've heard light exercise such as a slow jog is pretty good because it alone won't cause any injuries but gets your heart and muscles going a little... but I am certainly no expert. Sounds reasonable enough though.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 02 2008 21:35 GMT
#25
there is more than one type of stretching, and more than one type of flexibility

you want to do dynamic stretches after or as part of a warmup, before your exercise

you want to do your relaxed stretches afterwards








and static stretching before exercise can be helpful, you just need to know what you're doing and why you're doing it
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9109 Posts
May 02 2008 21:40 GMT
#26
I don't care what Jibba is saying about stretching not helping prevent injury or what research he cites. He's just, wrong ... In my experiences with soccer and track, especially since track is a more explosive sport you are much likely to injure yourself in the sprints if you don't warm up properly.

However, you can't just stretch cold. You need to warm up by doing some mid-speed jogging for a few laps like 1/2 mile to 1mile depending on how cold it is and then stretch once your muscles are warmed.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-02 21:48:14
May 02 2008 21:45 GMT
#27
On May 03 2008 03:05 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2008 02:48 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Uh

Doing _anything_ that has your body move (that includes stretching) prior to an accelerated or stress inducing physical activity does some good. Don't tell me "stretching as injury prevention has been disproved." It doesn't INCREASE the chances of a fucking injury and even if it's benefits are relatively low in the specific realm of injury prevention it DOES help.

Don't speak in absolutes. You will be right more often.

I said warming up is a part of injury prevention and the actual stretching of the muscles does nothing to prevent injuries.

In some cases, it doesn't even improve performance.

Show nested quote +
The review of the basic science literature suggested five reasons why stretching before exercise would not prevent injuries. First, in animals, immobilization or heating-induced increases in muscle compliance cause tissues to rupture more easily. Second, stretching before exercise should have no effect for activities in which excessive muscle length is not an issue (e.g., jogging). Third, stretching won't affect muscle compliance during eccentric activity, when most strains are believed to occur. Fourth, stretching can produce damage at the cytoskeleton level. Fifth, stretching appears to mask muscle pain in humans. CONCLUSION: The basic science literature supports the epidemiologic evidence that stretching before exercise does not reduce the risk of injury.


We can go on...


I don't care about your literature. Have you ever run a 100 meter dash with absolutely no warm-up in the cold? It would not be a good idea.

I mean when Olympic athletes are dressed in sweats before their race even if it's 80 degrees (thats like 35 Celsius lol? iono) they have a reason for it. It's not that they like overheating themselves, they do it to prevent injury.

Anyway, saying it's proved that stretching is pointless is a very brash statement.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-02 22:11:20
May 02 2008 22:08 GMT
#28
I don't care about Darwin's literature, there's no way man came from monkeys. I don't look like a monkey, so it can't be true.

Yeah, that's what you sound like. You even admitted that you warm up before you stretch, and that's the key component to preventing injury. Stretching does not do much to warm your body up, and in some cases it can actually cause problems. Maybe you should spend less time sprinting and more time reading, because I never said stretching was useless. I said it's useless for injury prevention.

Physiologists and medical researches > yuo.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 02 2008 22:08 GMT
#29
On May 03 2008 06:17 rpf wrote:
Judging from the last picture I saw of him, he doesn't. He's just reading Wikipedia.


hahaha

If I read wikipedia I'd still be fucking miles ahead of you in knowing jack shit about working out. Go fucking cry some more. That way you are funny to the rest at least. Here you are just fucking stupid. WALK AND PUSHUPS FOR AGILITY OR STAMINA? You need to wear a fucking helmet. Judging from my last picture I'm a fucking cartoon so yeah, I guess you can suggest I read wikipedia from that. Rofl stupid fuck.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 02 2008 22:10 GMT
#30
On May 03 2008 07:08 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Here you are just fucking stupid. WALK AND PUSHUPS FOR AGILITY OR STAMINA? You need to wear a fucking helmet. J

Inc > rpf
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Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
May 02 2008 22:12 GMT
#31
Wait, so rpf is a fatty?

THE WORLD MAKES SENSE NOW.
gwho
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States632 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-02 22:22:42
May 02 2008 22:18 GMT
#32
On May 03 2008 01:30 rpf wrote:
Okay so, I'm taking the civil service exam in June, which means if I'm offered employment I'll probably be off to the Academy at some point in the near future, which means I ought to try to do some stuff to prepare beforehand so I don't show up as the only overweight guy.

I'm not at all concerned with strength training; I'm concerned more with increasing my stamina and agility. I don't really exercise, so I'm not really sure where to start.

I know I should stretch before I do anything to help prevent injuries. I should also stretch after I exercise, correct?

So should I just go walk, do pushups, situps, etc.?



stretch AFTER you exercise. stretching BEFORE when your blood isn't flowing and stiff can damage you. but you dno't wnat to go all out either.

the best way to stretch before exercising is to warm up by doing something like light running, or just getting your heart rate up, then doing mild stretches, then going all out.

warm up -> stretch -> main workout -> stretch.

never stretch all out first.







usually, the main limiting factor that holds people back is not all these secondary precautions, but effort, mental willpower and working out hard enough. our bodies aren't inflexible machinery - they're much more versatile than that. it's all about pushing through the burn.




forget special workout plans, and all that. that's micro. if you push yourself hard everyday, and just stick with a plan as simple as cadro one day, muscle toning the next, and just go really hard at it, you will get stronger and healthier. go for the macro, bro.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
May 02 2008 22:23 GMT
#33
yeah never stretch just jump into an activity and go for it. Fuck physical trainers or sports science.
gwho
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States632 Posts
May 02 2008 23:04 GMT
#34
On May 03 2008 07:23 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
yeah never stretch just jump into an activity and go for it. Fuck physical trainers or sports science.


in lots of things, people aren't for the thing itself, but money, which is their end. your end (a quality product/service) is their means. fuck greedy corporations. sports science in itself is not bad, but money is like a midas touch - it corrupts everything it touches, and the name itself comes to mean something else, rather than what it originally was.
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
May 02 2008 23:26 GMT
#35
just eat right, do some weight training and of course go jogging. Hydrate yourself well but limit your food to stuff that has less then 5% fat in them. gl man.
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