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Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-30 02:38:25
April 30 2008 00:36 GMT
#1
my old mp3 broke a week ago and im going to get a new one.. im having a tough choice right now what do you think i should get? im gonna be spending $250 on it so what do you think its best for this kinda of price? o and where do you think its best to buy it too? so the mp3 or ipod i want would be cheaper there :D
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Poll: What should i get
(Vote): ipod
(Vote): creative zen
(Vote): zune
(Vote): name other mp3

EDIT:

What i dont want...

1. I dont want the screen to be LCD
2. I dont want it to look big on my pocket like fat
3. I dont want it to break just by dropping it like 5 feet...
4. I dont want to have problems with avi. wmv. for the video format

What i want...

1. I want it to have a good quality sound
2. I want it to have a lot of space and be cheap
3. I want the battery life to be a lot
4. I want to carry movies, photos, music, etc

Questions about the Ipod...
Does Ipod have to convert a lot of videos to put it in???
Will all music work for the Ipod?
*Only Ipod Owners Question*
Is the Ipod 80GB worth it?

Question about the Zen...
Is the Zen ever gonna make new ones? its always the 30gb and 60gb same looking

Question about the Zune...
Is the new Zune really good and is it worth it???


*
MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
April 30 2008 00:44 GMT
#2
ipod cant play flac and stuff so dont get it, and itunes is a fucking pain in the ass.

mp3 players that work like a portable harddrive are better.
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JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
April 30 2008 00:44 GMT
#3
zune
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 30 2008 00:52 GMT
#4
lol I just use my nintendo ds.
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
April 30 2008 01:00 GMT
#5
ipod's are overrated!!!!!!
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Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
April 30 2008 01:03 GMT
#6
On April 30 2008 09:44 MarklarMarklar wrote:
ipod cant play flac and stuff so dont get it, and itunes is a fucking pain in the ass.

mp3 players that work like a portable harddrive are better.

what is flac?? like video stuff?
JudgeMathis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Cuba1286 Posts
April 30 2008 01:13 GMT
#7
I think for 100 dollars more you can get the 80gb, which I have.
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MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-30 01:20:22
April 30 2008 01:15 GMT
#8
On April 30 2008 10:03 Darkmole wrote:
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On April 30 2008 09:44 MarklarMarklar wrote:
ipod cant play flac and stuff so dont get it, and itunes is a fucking pain in the ass.

mp3 players that work like a portable harddrive are better.

what is flac?? like video stuff?


flac is a music format that is of very high quality(no loss of quality whatsoever) each song tend to be like 20-50mb.

kewl format that i download my favourites in
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karbon
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada137 Posts
April 30 2008 01:18 GMT
#9
coming from an ipod owner, trust me when i say ipod suck. limited music formats, limited features.

zune sucks as well, according to my friends.

zen is better, but i cant think of suggestions on the top of my head right now
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
April 30 2008 01:20 GMT
#10
On April 30 2008 10:15 MarklarMarklar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2008 10:03 Darkmole wrote:
On April 30 2008 09:44 MarklarMarklar wrote:
ipod cant play flac and stuff so dont get it, and itunes is a fucking pain in the ass.

mp3 players that work like a portable harddrive are better.

what is flac?? like video stuff?


flac is a music format that is of very high quality. each song tend to be like 20-50mb.

kewl format that i download my favourites in


high quality, but oh so unnecessary for 95% of the music listening population.
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MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
April 30 2008 01:21 GMT
#11
On April 30 2008 10:20 useLess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2008 10:15 MarklarMarklar wrote:
On April 30 2008 10:03 Darkmole wrote:
On April 30 2008 09:44 MarklarMarklar wrote:
ipod cant play flac and stuff so dont get it, and itunes is a fucking pain in the ass.

mp3 players that work like a portable harddrive are better.

what is flac?? like video stuff?


flac is a music format that is of very high quality. each song tend to be like 20-50mb.

kewl format that i download my favourites in


high quality, but oh so unnecessary for 95% of the music listening population.


ya its a total audiophile format.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-30 01:25:04
April 30 2008 01:21 GMT
#12
I'm happy with my iPod, and if you want to customize it/make it more like a portable harddrive you can just install rockbox and use that instead of apple's software.

Don't think it really matters TBH though. And mp3 player is just an mp3 player. Only thing you should care about it are battery life, storage space, and physical size.

high quality, but oh so unnecessary for 95% of the music listening population.

And meaningless without equally uncommon and expensive speakers/headphones. 40 mb for a 3-5 minute song sounds like you're not getting much variety in one harddrive. Shit, 20 songs per gig? I'm gonna have discographies that would take the entire space of an mp3 player.
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Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
April 30 2008 01:22 GMT
#13
On April 30 2008 10:18 karbon wrote:
coming from an ipod owner, trust me when i say ipod suck. limited music formats, limited features.

zune sucks as well, according to my friends.

zen is better, but i cant think of suggestions on the top of my head right now

the mp3 that broke was a zen to me :D zen are good but the thing i dont like is it seems to break easily if you drop it and its sooo big and kinda expensive though
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
April 30 2008 01:29 GMT
#14
i love my zen
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 30 2008 01:30 GMT
#15
the battery for your ipod will die the second your warranty expires
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-30 01:35:41
April 30 2008 01:33 GMT
#16
iPods are inferior to other mp3 players in almost every single category unless you're getting a Touch, which is completely unique.

Zune 80 >>> iPod Classic in:
Sound Quality
Screen Size
Features
Earbuds (ships with REAL ear buds)
File types supported

Classic >>> Zune in:
Slightly longer battery life
Better software

The thing is, you can modify the Zune so it works with any software, including iTunes.

What kind of size are you looking for? For a flash mp3 player, I'd go with iRiver. It's a shame they don't make hd mp3 players anymore. :/
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kyjori
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
371 Posts
April 30 2008 01:34 GMT
#17
check out some of the samsung mp3 players, they arent bad.
jgad
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada899 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-30 01:37:40
April 30 2008 01:35 GMT
#18
If you don't know what to buy then it may be worth asking yourself what you want out of a portable music player :

- how would you like to use it (periodic, light use, heavy use, extended periods, travel, commuting?)
- does size matter, want something tiny and easy to carry around more than features and storage?
- features? Do you want or need it to double as a portable storage device? Do you care about carrying photos or movies around on it? Do you want it to play games or do other things?
- battery life, how important is it to you?

The great beauty of the market is that it gives you choice. Asking "what should I get?" is like asking what race you should play in Starcraft or what build order is the "best" - there's no straight answer. All you'll get is fanboys voting for what they like best, but that may not be what is best for you. I'd say give it some thought.

A better way to shop for things, too, is not to say "I want a $250 mp3 player", but to say "I want an mp3 player that can do (A,B,C)" - what are my options? You may find that you don't need to spend $250 to get exactly what you want.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 30 2008 01:41 GMT
#19
On April 30 2008 10:35 jgad wrote:

The great beauty of the market is that it gives you choice. Asking "what should I get?" is like asking what race you should play in Starcraft or what build order is the "best" - there's no straight answer. All you'll get is fanboys voting for what they like best, but that may not be what is best for you.

iRiver = Zerg
Microsoft = Terran
Protoss = Apple
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Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
April 30 2008 01:42 GMT
#20
On April 30 2008 10:35 jgad wrote:
If you don't know what to buy then it may be worth asking yourself what you want out of a portable music player :

- how would you like to use it (periodic, light use, heavy use, extended periods, travel, commuting?)
- does size matter, want something tiny and easy to carry around more than features and storage?
- features? Do you want or need it to double as a portable storage device? Do you care about carrying photos or movies around on it? Do you want it to play games or do other things?
- battery life, how important is it to you?

The great beauty of the market is that it gives you choice. Asking "what should I get?" is like asking what race you should play in Starcraft or what build order is the "best" - there's no straight answer. All you'll get is fanboys voting for what they like best, but that may not be what is best for you. I'd say give it some thought.

A better way to shop for things, too, is not to say "I want a $250 mp3 player", but to say "I want an mp3 player that can do (A,B,C)" - what are my options? You may find that you don't need to spend $250 to get exactly what you want.


hmmm ic what you mean :D

1. i like it light and thin
2. i dont want it to break easily
3. i like carrying movies, photos, and everything on it
4. the battery life is the most important thing to me
5. i dont want to have problems with avi. wmv. for the video format
and i got a question about the ipod
do you have to convert all the videos you want on the ipod? or just some of them?
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-30 02:02:30
April 30 2008 02:00 GMT
#21
Do you want to watch movies on it or do you just want to use it as a portable HD?

And how big do you want?

CNET's best HD mp3 players
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Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
April 30 2008 02:02 GMT
#22
On April 30 2008 11:00 Jibba wrote:
Do you want to watch movies on it or do you just want to use it as a portable HD?

And how big do you want?

i just want the video quality to be good i dont want it all crap
fOrQQ
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Hong Kong321 Posts
April 30 2008 02:11 GMT
#23
Its pricey, but the Archos 605 portable media player is a great choice- several of my friends have one, and its music and movie quality is excellent, as well as abundance of HD space.
lazymej
Profile Joined February 2006
Canada269 Posts
April 30 2008 02:12 GMT
#24
iPod. Lots of people here are anti-iPod but to each his own. It's about personal preference. I love the interface and to me it's reliable. It's also the most stylish by far (as well as the most common unfortunately).
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jgad
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada899 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-30 02:16:15
April 30 2008 02:15 GMT
#25
i got a question about the ipod
do you have to convert all the videos you want on the ipod? or just some of them?


iPod only plays H.264 and MPEG-4 videos - if you want to play anything else you'd have to convert it with something like SUPER.
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karbon
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada137 Posts
April 30 2008 02:56 GMT
#26
On April 30 2008 10:22 Darkmole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2008 10:18 karbon wrote:
coming from an ipod owner, trust me when i say ipod suck. limited music formats, limited features.

zune sucks as well, according to my friends.

zen is better, but i cant think of suggestions on the top of my head right now

the mp3 that broke was a zen to me :D zen are good but the thing i dont like is it seems to break easily if you drop it and its sooo big and kinda expensive though


oh.... then if all mp3 suck..... get an eee pc :D

anyways, of all the mp3 ive owned, i think the black zen micro version 2 non-video was my favorite... too bad i cant find it anywhere now.. ebay sells it for 130 fucking dollars...
Descent
Profile Joined January 2008
1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-30 03:13:13
April 30 2008 03:10 GMT
#27
I currently use both an iPod and a Zune, and I think they're both safe products; and as it's already been noted, both will have their fans and anti-fans (sort of like Macs...similar Apple/Microsoft thing). I actually rather like the Zune software, and while I used iTunes for quite some time, I do think I prefer the Zune's software more right now (it has its quirkiness, though). Also, I agree with the comment that the Zune's ear buds are superior.
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thoraxe
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-30 04:24:46
April 30 2008 03:29 GMT
#28
Ipods imo don't have exceptional audio quality. I think you should wait in a year and buy one of those iphone ripoff copies(no hate intended). I heard of a new chip that Texas Instruments(TI FTW VATOS!) that will allow you to play HD quality videos in it as well as other neat thingy magingies.

p.s. ipod IS an mp3 player, its just that it can also play mp4 format audio. I don't know why people classify Ipods as in a whole different ballgame.

edit: here they talk about that new technology that I said. I have come to realize that this technology is coming out this year, and not the next(didn't know this article was a year old, haha).
http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/hardware/0,39042972,62024682,00.htm

check out this article, talks about HD on phones(also a year old article).
http://news.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/0,39029678,49294627,00.htm
The Nokia N95 sounds as a badass phone, but the N96 is.. well, sleeker.

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Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
April 30 2008 03:42 GMT
#29
The thing is about FLAC is usually, you can't tell the difference unless you have amazing headphones and/or great ears so not being able to play FLAC doesn't really matter.
AzNxRaVeR
Profile Joined June 2004
United States211 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-30 04:20:10
April 30 2008 04:12 GMT
#30
what do you mean "I dont want the screen to be LCD"? ipods, zunes, etc have LCD screens...

anyway how about...

Cowon D2? i have 4gb version. ^_^
http://www.cowonglobal.com/product_wide/product_D2_feature.php

or some of iRiver products? Clix2?
http://www.iriver.com/product/

samsung has good stuff too.. P2! :D
http://pages.samsung.com/us/mp3/index.html

here's a good site to learn more about other mp3 players:
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/
they have a nice comparison chart too:
http://www.anythingbutipod.com/compare/
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20044 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-30 04:49:27
April 30 2008 04:48 GMT
#31
I have the Zen Vision:M and i would die by it.

I've had no problems with the "bulk" (zomg .2 inches more). If anything it feels a bit more solid.
Compared to Ipod
  • Better audio quality
  • Higher resolution screen/more colors
  • Plays more movie formats
  • FM Tuner
  • Recorder
  • Semi-replaceable battery (have to take it apart)
  • No itunes!
  • Can survive multiple 10-foot drops


If you get it these are the must have accessories:
http://www.bestskinsever.com/servlet/the-37/Creative-Zen-Vision-cln-M-Total/Detail Hands down the fucking sweetest accessory ever. 5-7$ for gaurenteed protection of you mp3 player. I can key it, scratch it, put it in my backpack/pocket, and all it takes is a quick wipe and its perfect. Putting on the shield is a bit tricky but once its on, you never need a case or any other protection.(i bought the face only and they mailed me the whole body kit :p)
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=13375&cat=1815&page=1 (AC Charger, allows playing while charging + charges faster)

And some other handy things are:
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=13374&cat=1815&page=1 (Car Charger)
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=12423&cat=1815&page=1 AV cables so you can play music/movies through any TV (i can bring my mp3 player and hook it up to a TV so i dont need movies or dvd player or anything)

For some good reviews of all mp3 players go here: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/

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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 30 2008 05:45 GMT
#32
On April 30 2008 12:29 thoraxe wrote:
Ipods imo don't have exceptional audio quality. I think you should wait in a year and buy one of those iphone ripoff copies(no hate intended). I heard of a new chip that Texas Instruments(TI FTW VATOS!) that will allow you to play HD quality videos in it as well as other neat thingy magingies.



Just so you know, there are already phones that can do everything an iphone can do and more. They just don't have as pretty a UI.
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nofAcedAgent
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States952 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-30 06:14:52
April 30 2008 06:13 GMT
#33
I personally cant stand ipods or anyting apple for that matter. their hardware sucks and so does their software (itunes) Itunes is a fuckign nazi, only lets you transfer YOUR music like a handful of times and you have to "erase" (been a while cant remember the term they use) it before you can transfer it again. Itunes runs like shit, freezez all the time, just like the ipod - ie. you tell the ipod to go to the next song 10-15 seconds later it actually does. Urgh they are just junk and i had the most frustrating experience with them. They are also very unintuitive in their UI, if your used to using windows well, apple does everything backwards so get ready to relearn and be frustrated GO MP3
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