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kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-13 12:56:05
April 13 2008 12:20 GMT
#1
Given how much I love reading peoples blogs on tl.net, I figured I’d make my own. I enjoy writing in general, and logging my thoughts might be good for my mental state.
(If I offend anybody, imp sorry)
I'm 17, Live in Queanbeyan Australia (5 minutes from the ACT). Year 12 student at the moment, looking forward to the end of school. I have some hopes to go to university but I’m not optimistic about that.
Anyways. Something sitting heavily on my heart right now is the... infatuation I have for 2 girls. Please note imp completely novice in relation to women, thus why this is bugging me. The two girls are pretty much best friends, and are both adorable. Big breasts, cute eyes, irresistible personalities (to me at least). They are similar in these ways, yet I guess are fundamentally different in terms of morals and standards.

So the real part of my troubling story starts here. Had a party at my house this Saturday night. lots of fun, only friends (woot), lots of grog, enjoyable overall. Both girls which I like were there. I get such, mixed messages from both of them. Half the time I think there interested in me, the other half that they are both completely indifferent (Why do women act like that). I guess for future reference I’ll name them, so one is Pie, and the other is Loli (pie named because came to my house the previous night and made me apple pie, Loli because well… she’s really Lolita styled I guess).

Right from the minute loli walked through the door, she was.. all over me I guess. Constantly with her arms around me, hugging, on top of me, whatever. this is before drinking. After drinking (are all women Cadburys? Christ…) roughly 2-3 shots of vodka, she was comfortably drunk. And so even more of her being ‘into’ me. I think cool!. She makes numerous references to the sex that we are later going to have, I keep playing along. When it comes down to it (her in her fishnets/cute lingerie) in my room, embracing me, closing the door, and saying take me, she goes to kiss me. I shy away from it (almost complete rebuking). Second time, I do the same. As a brief interlude, I’d like to describe my situation more. Being overweight, I feel incredibly uncomfortable with my clothes off. Im also a virgin. Second, she was under the influence, and I honestly thought to myself “Do I want to take advantage of her?” I answered no. was that the right decision? I thought it was at the time, and now I semi regret it (only because of what happens later).

I walk away from the situation trying to recollect myself. Cool cool. What really makes me unhappy rebuking her offer of sex down is because, as she got even more drunk, she gets well, sluttier. And so my asshole friend (someone I consider as a very close friend sadly) takes advantage of her. The only way to describe how I feel would be incredibly disappointed. In myself, her and my friend. My friend did this despite fully knowing that I genuinely liked her. Whatever.

Now some opinions. Was my decision the right one? I keep trying to convince myself it is (if I did take advantage of her my respect for myself would go down. Really, I honestly feel that way). But I keep thinking “what if I didn’t”.
Is it even worth trying to be a “nice” guy? Is it just me or do women just fucking get off on being abused by some fucking asshole? A sexist thing to say but sometimes I actually believe it. I don’t get it, and never will.

Second girl experience being with Pie. So later on I chuck on “wish you were here”. I go and lie down and think about what just happened. Pie walks along (obviously drunk) and lies down on top of me. We stay like this for shine on you crazy diamond, talking talking about anything really. By this time I was depressed by the whole loli ordeal that I had drunk a lot more. And so I hold no responsibility for what I actually say. Now as stupid as it is, I believe passionetly in the ideals of romantic love. Fidelity, trust, all very important to me. i realise how stupid that is. Have a cigar starts playing, we get up and start drunkenly waltzing to the music. We do this to the end of the album. Im waxing lyrically about various things, and I scantly remember stating “I’d be happy if I could just hold you in my arms tonight, will you do that? “ basically I think I made myself look fucking stupid, but as I was drunk I don’t truly care. Thing ends, she goes cold again, and im left being bored and depressed for the rest of the night by these experiences.

Im so sick of getting such mixed messages from both. Women confuse me and I don’t know how to react to this kinda thing. Oh well.
On go, I have started playing recently (2 weeks ago). Im about 25 kyu and enjoying it a whole heap. Brilliant game ^_^. Are there any players on tl?

Well I hope I can get some advice on this, but I atleast feel better now that I have poorly dripped my issue into a written format.

If anybody reads this, and gives me some wisdom, they have my thanks.

(p.s fuck msword)

****
prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
indecision
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Germany818 Posts
April 13 2008 12:49 GMT
#2
was that the right decision?

(her in her fishnets/cute lingerie) in my room, embracing me, closing the door, and saying take me
Being overweight, I feel. incredibly uncomfortable with my clothes off. Im also a virginIn myself,
My friend did this despite fully knowing that I genuinely liked her.

wth just happened there?
kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
April 13 2008 12:54 GMT
#3
must re edit. sigh evil word. fuck.
prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
wo0py
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Netherlands922 Posts
April 13 2008 13:06 GMT
#4
You were right. sluts aint good girlfriends

sluts are sluts, if you into sluts they could be used. but you thought at that moment it was wrong.
i would ask myself thesamething
but at suchs moments i would say WTH she offered it. but you genuinly didnt want this. so you did very good my friend.

go fetch a nicer girl.
We shouldnt recreate anger of the non-virtual world
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
April 13 2008 13:10 GMT
#5
Well, with Loli, chances are high that you ruined any chance to date her. You didn't have to have sex with her if you were uncomfortable with that, but the fact that you wouldn't even kiss her, and that she went to bone your friend, says to me you threw away your chance with her. With Pie it's still up in the air, but if she's loyal to Loli, you have no chance with her either. Sorry. Sucks... but going off what you've shared, that's the way I see it.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8092 Posts
April 13 2008 13:14 GMT
#6
watch superbad
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Tynuji
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
127 Posts
April 13 2008 14:15 GMT
#7
Start on the 4 point star next time.
Payt
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada582 Posts
April 13 2008 14:56 GMT
#8
Eh.. I think you did more or less the right thing. If you felt comfortably having sex with her, whatever, then drunk sex is fine! but if you're a virgin and kind of hemming and hawwing and generally uncomfortable, it's probably for the best you avoided that chance for another time (with most likely a different girl) that will be more comfortable. Although I'm surprised you shied away from kissing her both times. that just don't make sense.

I have no idea about the pie girl. she sounds confusing and confused. keep trying though.
Payt
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada582 Posts
April 13 2008 14:56 GMT
#9
On April 13 2008 22:14 Scaramanga wrote:
watch superbad
no way man. you need to know how to deal with girls, watch strongbad.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
April 13 2008 15:29 GMT
#10
Get drunk yourself so there is no moral dilemma about fucking her?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
zachmorris
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States106 Posts
April 13 2008 15:38 GMT
#11
strongbad classic! =] I'm going to have to check that out myself. Just because your drunk together does not necessarily mean you have to have sex. You could do other things... maybe just make out for awhile. Stupid girls...

<3
I hate zach morris
bustaBust
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada469 Posts
April 13 2008 17:12 GMT
#12
On April 13 2008 23:56 Payt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2008 22:14 Scaramanga wrote:
watch superbad
no way man. you need to know how to deal with girls, watch strongbad.

You'll learn more from Sinbad.
prOxi.JuNii
Profile Joined July 2007
Finland24 Posts
April 13 2008 18:27 GMT
#13
yeah, watch superbad lol.. and for the record!! bon ftw!!!
Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
April 13 2008 19:03 GMT
#14
i am ~1-3d on KGS.

pm me if u want games//teaching or whatever.
555, kthxbai
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