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fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
December 18 2007 07:01 GMT
#1
So they are having a big debate right now in congress about the FISA bill. Basically, the issue is that it grants retroactive immunity to telecom companies so they can't get in trouble for domestic spying (there are like 40 something lawsuits going on about this).

Senator Dodd is filabustering the bill.

Anyway, there was an interesting quote from one of the senators for the bill:

Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama:
“The civil libertarians among us would rather defend the constitution than protect our nation's security.”

This just really bothers me. This isn't the mindset I'd like in the senate.


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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-18 08:05:57
December 18 2007 08:04 GMT
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On December 18 2007 16:01 fight_or_flight wrote:
Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama:
“The civil libertarians among us would rather defend the constitution than protect our nation's security.”

This just really bothers me. This isn't the mindset I'd like in the senate.

There is a difference between 'protecting our nation's security', and allowing the government to temporarily revoke our constitutional rights whenever they feel like it, so long as they claim they are fighting terrorism. I'm not going to try to debate you in your own blog, because I think you are just informing us of what's going on, but I just want to clear up the other side if at all possible. A lot of people think that the Patriot act and several things like it, and probably this too, are part of a larger 'conspiracy' to strengthen the federal government.

Both sides make sense to me, which is why I am so politically confused right now.

On the one hand, it is much easier for a strong government to repel threats and deal with things like terrorism, but, on the other hand, it is also much easier for a strong government to 'silence' all opposition, domestic or otherwise.
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
December 18 2007 11:41 GMT
#3
o.O seems to me Americans are losing their privacy one bill at a time? Or am I wrong? Personally I wouldn't like this :p
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-18 12:54:50
December 18 2007 12:50 GMT
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Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama:
“The civil libertarians among us would rather defend the constitution than protect our nation's security.”

This is the problem I have when people equate republican with conservative. There's plenty of asshole neo-conservatives ( ^ )in Congress/White House, but it seems like the conservative numbers are dwindling.

Every time there's ever been a security crisis, our civil liberties take a bit of a hit but a sign that things are healthy is when they are restored shortly after the crisis is over. Right now, they're trying to stop that from happening. :/

BTW, he got the vote delayed until January.
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