• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:42
CEST 11:42
KST 18:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall9HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6
Community News
Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL50Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?12FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event16Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster16Weekly Cups (June 16-22): Clem strikes back1
StarCraft 2
General
How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports? The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Statistics for vetoed/disliked maps Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series [GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Semi Finals & Finals $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event HomeStory Cup 27 (June 27-29)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady
Brood War
General
Player “Jedi” cheat on CSL Help: rep cant save Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Blogs
Culture Clash in Video Games…
TrAiDoS
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 758 users

Thank you SC2

Blogs > munch
Post a Reply
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-23 04:52:51
July 28 2020 06:14 GMT
#1
So, it's been a while. For a long time, I've been done with SC2; done with writing and TL, besides following a few people on twitter and occasionally checking liquipedia. It's been too long since I stopped watching, and there's no way that I'd have anything to offer, even if I were so inclined. Other distractions appeared in my life too—MSc dissertations were due, my job began demanding more and more of my time, and I suddenly and unexpectedly fell in love with the Overwatch scene.

All this happened while my passion (eugh—I hate that word) for Starcraft reached its nadir at the start of Legacy of the Void. One of my many character flaws that I'm infuriated by is my inability to compromise. If I'm interested in something, I have to know it all and see it all—I can never be a casual fan. Towards the end, I had been writing at TL because I felt I had to, rather than because I wanted to; I was slowly becoming more and more apathetic to the games I was watching. As new blood arrived in the TL writing staff, I suddenly realised that it was time to call it quits. My final maps I watched were Games 5 and 6 of the HSC XV Finals between Zest and ByuN on 23 July 2017—I know this as I have a spreadsheet listing nearly every map of professional SC2 that I've ever watched. It currently stands at 13,025 rows. I don't watch another map for over two years.

***

My first SC2 tournament was Iron Squid 1. I loved it, but for some bizarre reason never followed up on it. Uni was tough at the time—I was slowly realising that I really wasn't good enough—and the daily grind to improve took up nearly every waking moment of my day. Eventually, I am done with my course; I am thoroughly disappointed with my mediocre results. The summer passes by in a wave of apathy and failed job applications. One evening, I happen to click through to the start of the WCS Season 2 Finals on twitch, and am hooked for good.

While working full-time, I turn the clock back, watching the whole of Season 2; then Season 1; then systematically work my way through the whole of Starcraft history. I fall in love with MMA; with INnoVation; with Squirtle. From mid-2013 to 2016, I watch everything that I have time for, and some things that I don't. I do not miss a single map of offline SC2.

***

Some context now; in 2014, I move to Hong Kong. It isn't a choice I make myself, and it isn't one I want. While Hong Kong is a place where I look like I fit in, my terrible Cantonese accent gives the game away immediately. Besides family friends—all of whom are at least 20 years older than me—I know one person in Hong Kong, who is flooded by the working hours in investment banking. I cannot read or write Chinese, and so spend the days at work terrified of being given documents I can't read, or answering calls that I can't understand without the context of seeing them in person. Even something as simple as ordering lunch becomes a guessing game of spotting what others have ordered, and rolling the dice on exactly what it might be called. More than all that though, the work is menial and tedious. I hate it.

At some point, I see a post on TL asking for writers' applications. I spent most of my school life hating essay-writing—when I was applying to university, I joked that I picked a maths degree so that I wouldn't have to write essays, and I still don't know how much truth there was in that. But this was about something I loved, and I was bored at work with nothing to do, so what the hell. You can read my initial application in one of my previous blogs. Zealously messages me asking for my Skype—he likes my work, for some bizarre reason—and then promptly forgets about me for another two weeks. Eventually though, I am in.

I spend the next 18 months writing for TL while at work, furiously alt tabbing between liquipedia, TL, and my actual job while thanking god that my colleagues aren't interested in looking too closely at what I'm actually writing every day in assorted word documents. I get promoted to pseudo-Editor at some point, and every day follows the same pattern—edit anything that's been written, write anything that hasn't, and then go home at the perfect time to catch the KR games. When those are done, there's more writing to do, and VODs of any games that I've missed to catch up. Especially at the weekend, there are EU games to watch and recap—I distinctly remember a FireCake game day that went on for so long that it was light by the time it was finally over. Frequently, I fall asleep in my chair, before waking up, finishing my piece and finally fall into bed. My sleep schedule has always been terrible—even now, I often go to work after one or two hours of sleep (if that)—and speaking from the present it's the one thing that I most hope to correct soon. But for the first time in a while, I am working on a project that I love.

Eventually, I secure a spot on a Masters' course back in the UK, and am able to come home.

TL fly me out to BlizzCon 2016—an experience that I'll forever cherish and for which I remain hugely grateful—but even though I don't realise it at the time, this is the beginning of the end. My dissatisfiction with the gameplay in early LotV continues to grow, and various uni projects keep me too busy to watch games at the start of 2017. Before you know it it's been nearly three months. IEM Katowice represents one final golden hour of great Starcraft, but from there my love for the game slowly fizzles out, and I call it quits in July.

***

As ever with everything I write, this has morphed unrecognisably from what I set out to do—a simple paragraph to thank everyone on the Blizzard SC2 team and at TL for the past ten years—but I really did want to illustrate truly what this game and this community meant to me, as well as to close off a truly significant chapter of my life. There have been a bunch of people posting about how SC2 has saved their lives; while that may be going a little too far for me personally, it's inarguable that it really was the spark that kept me going for those glory years of HotS. It came at a time when my morale was as low as it's ever been, and gave me an outlet to find some enjoyment from the daily grind. There's still little in esports to match those truly electrifying moments in Starcraft—the culmination of IEM Cologne 2014; Proleague at its peak; watching soO finally reach the summit at KeSPA Cup.

TL was a job that taught me so much—most obviously how to write fast, well (I hope, at least), and on the fly—but was also just a wonderful place to work. I do miss the camaraderie of the writing team, and there's some sick part of me that misses the adrenaline kick of the sudden realisation that it's an hour to go until the next GSL group and nothing's been written. I'll forever be indebted to my editors, who each improved my writing so much in different ways, and to the rest of the writing team too—I miss you all. That extends to the whole TL community too—even some of the truly awful posters who I'm not going to name.

Unfortunately, SC2 just isn't the game for me anymore. I hope that anyone reading this can take this in the manner intended—know that I am so happy for you if you're still hooked. It was certainly a delight to check into an LR thread and recognise some of the posters that were there before me, and are still there long after I've left. I've been told that the game is much improved over what it was back in 2017, and maybe there's some world where I click through to a match out of boredom and fall in love all over again. For now though, it's goodbye. You'll always hold a place in my heart—thank you for everything

*****
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2214 Posts
July 28 2020 07:22 GMT
#2
Thanks for your thoughts, enthusiasm can wax and wane, maybe you will find your way back :-)
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1847 Posts
July 28 2020 14:06 GMT
#3
my first editor <3
┗|∵|┓Second Place in LB 28, Third Place in LB 29 and Destined to Be a Kong
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland931 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-29 08:52:21
July 29 2020 08:39 GMT
#4
We met in Krefeld, but was it 2016 or 2017?

I was always in awe how quickly you churned out those Proleague previews and recaps. And some articles I turned in way late, but you got them up anyway.
WriterI shoot events. | http://www.jussi.co/esports
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
July 29 2020 13:51 GMT
#5
On July 29 2020 17:39 hexhaven wrote:
We met in Krefeld, but was it 2016 or 2017?

I was always in awe how quickly you churned out those Proleague previews and recaps. And some articles I turned in way late, but you got them up anyway.


2016! I met munch at BlizzCon that year and shortly after that we all met at HSC, which was amaaaazing.

Much love to you munch, as I said in the other thread, the KR league-grinding with you belongs to my most cherished memories. <3
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-29 16:42:28
July 29 2020 16:42 GMT
#6
On July 29 2020 17:39 hexhaven wrote:
We met in Krefeld, but was it 2016 or 2017?

I was always in awe how quickly you churned out those Proleague previews and recaps. And some articles I turned in way late, but you got them up anyway.

It was 2016, TL should send 5 writers and other assorted staff to more events in the future

On July 29 2020 22:51 TheOneAboveU wrote:
Much love to you munch, as I said in the other thread, the KR league-grinding with you belongs to my most cherished memories. <3

Love all of you equally but proleague team was definitely the best team
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
Descent
Profile Joined January 2008
1244 Posts
July 29 2020 18:38 GMT
#7
It's been years since I logged into TL I think, but nostalgia is strong. Great post, cheers, and good luck in the future OP!
「 Dream & Future 」 ※ 「 STX SouL 」
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 30 2020 18:31 GMT
#8
I still feel bad about not getting back to you sooner with that application Thanks for all the work you did around TL, you're a real hero and a good guy. SC2 is/was lucky to have you! Fighting~
AdministratorBreak the chains
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
July 31 2020 17:45 GMT
#9
On July 31 2020 03:31 Zealously wrote:
I still feel bad about not getting back to you sooner with that application Thanks for all the work you did around TL, you're a real hero and a good guy. SC2 is/was lucky to have you! Fighting~


I hope you don't; the only reason I bring it up is because I think it's a hilarious anecdote. You've done so much for me that I'm grateful for
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
Nout1939
Profile Joined July 2022
1 Post
Last Edited: 2022-07-20 11:55:25
July 20 2022 11:54 GMT
#10
When the question comes of completing your thesis work or dissertation assigned by your college then students look forward to the online sources from where they can get help. Here essay have reviews this is a reliable source of finding the experts for your dissertation task.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 18m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 101
StarCraft: Brood War
firebathero 2877
Horang2 1592
Larva 659
Leta 342
actioN 282
Light 222
Mini 173
Pusan 124
Killer 124
EffOrt 111
[ Show more ]
ToSsGirL 103
PianO 98
JulyZerg 96
Rush 95
Zeus 93
BeSt 83
Backho 60
Sharp 32
NaDa 26
Mong 19
zelot 16
Sacsri 15
sSak 13
HiyA 7
Noble 6
Bale 4
Movie 4
Dota 2
XcaliburYe514
XaKoH 411
League of Legends
JimRising 504
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1089
shoxiejesuss756
allub141
Other Games
ceh9646
Happy400
Pyrionflax237
DeMusliM119
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH296
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt538
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
18m
herO vs SHIN
Reynor vs Cure
Tasteless0
OSC
3h 18m
WardiTV European League
6h 18m
Scarlett vs Percival
Jumy vs ArT
YoungYakov vs Shameless
uThermal vs Fjant
Nicoract vs goblin
Harstem vs Gerald
FEL
6h 18m
Big Brain Bouts
6h 18m
Korean StarCraft League
17h 18m
CranKy Ducklings
1d
RSL Revival
1d
FEL
1d 6h
RSL Revival
2 days
[ Show More ]
FEL
2 days
BSL: ProLeague
2 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-06-28
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025

Upcoming

2025 ACS Season 2: Qualifier
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.