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If you haven’t heard. Blizzard Entertainment has recently made the statement that anything negative said about China is grounds for being banned from tournaments and even the STAFF associated with the tournament permanently fired and blacklisted.
https://www.pcgamer.com/blitzchung-removed-from-hearthstone-grandmasters-for-liberate-hong-kong-comments/
This is naturally blowing up all over the internet.
Fuck you Blizzard and I mean this towards everyone that still continues to work there and for them. There should be massive walkouts and people blacklisting BLIZZARD for this.
I understand a job is a job but one needs to seriously ponder and self-reflect the message Blizzard is sending here and how we should respond to the company.
I understand that Blizzard could probably limp along for years just on its Chinese market, but the rest of the world we should be turning our backs on them.
I’m boycotting all future Blizzard/Activision games.
I know TL is a small community but hopefully with enough of us and other communities standing together we can get Blizzard to reverse their decision or we can send them into the dirt.
There will be others that have conflicting viewpoints on this. You’re all welcome to voice them.
 
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Pooh bear, Winnie the Pooh bear
Looking for fun, chasing some honey bees
Pooh bear, I know he's out there
Rumbly tumbly
Climbin' a honey tree
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Yeah blizzard that was a really bad way to censor stuff. Even if you want to keep your stuff politics-free, why ban the casters...
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fuck the companies bending over backwards for China, enabling this behaviour only empowers them to keep influencing their power; they are as much responsible for the mess of human rights in China as the CCP are.
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Good thing Blizzard is a shit company now so it's no trouble to avoid their games. Can still play the old BW, WC3, D2 etc since it was a completely different company. But yeah, shocking to see companies grovel at China's feet. I know it's billions of dollars at stake but kind of funny how different their treatment is of domestic social issues vs Chinese ones.
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Easiest uninstall of my life.
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On October 09 2019 01:05 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Fuck you Blizzard and I mean this towards everyone that still continues to work there and for them.
I'm with you on the rest but c'mon. There are a lot of people working for the company that have absolutely no say in this and need a job. Would I recommend looking for employment elsewhere? Sure. But demanding that of people to just up and change their lives is a little harsh. It's hard enough to find a job. Even harder if we're avoiding big companies that shill to China for profit.
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I wonder if Tencent has a finger in this...
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Well....this was an interesting read, I understand what you are saying but until they make another Broodwar Clone that suffices, I will be staying playing Blizzard games =P
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I will not uninstall BW and SC2, because Blizzard's stupidity doesn't make them bad games over night.
But I will not spend money on any Blizzard game for some time.
Not wanting any political stuff on a cast is fine, lots of sports have rules for that.
But they handled the whole issue terribly.
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Fuck you Blizzard
precisely so
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I happen to agree. This seems to be a disturbingly widespread company policy - have you followed the shitshow that is unfolding in NBA circles?
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Blitzchung has been found in breach of Section 6.1 of the 2019 Hearthstone Grandmasters Official Competition Rules, which forbids:
Engaging in any act that, in Blizzard’s sole discretion, brings you into public disrepute, offends a portion or group of the public, or otherwise damages Blizzard image will result in removal from Grandmasters and reduction of the player’s prize total to $0 USD, in addition to other remedies which may be provided for under the Handbook and Blizzard’s Website Terms.
For Blizzard, no matter how they reacted to this, they had to damage themselves. China's market is more valuable than the western market. It is an economic decision. A decision they hoped they never would have to make by having players and casters sign these very specific rules. Break them and you achieve your goal, attention; meanwhile Blizzard bleeds and gets drawn into a political conflict when they just want profit, so I totally understand that they take their frustrations out on the rule breakers.
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On October 09 2019 04:45 neobowman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2019 01:05 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Fuck you Blizzard and I mean this towards everyone that still continues to work there and for them. I'm with you on the rest but c'mon. There are a lot of people working for the company that have absolutely no say in this and need a job. Would I recommend looking for employment elsewhere? Sure. But demanding that of people to just up and change their lives is a little harsh. It's hard enough to find a job. Even harder if we're avoiding big companies that shill to China for profit.
Short term If the employees organized a walk out/protest, the hundreds of them, you bet there would be a faster response to this bullshit. (Edit: Some employees are protesting, good on them.)
Long term, get the heck out of dodge when you can. Unless you’re okay with that kind of morality then keep on keeping on I guess.
And honestly players and organizations should drop Blizzard games all together and play other eSports and watch other eSports. I’m not asking anyone to take this stance with me. It’s all personal choice but I’m boycotting all Officially Sponsored Blizzard eSports tournaments by not participating nor viewing the games on twitch.
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dont let the door hit you where the good lord [flash] split you
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On October 09 2019 07:59 BerserkSword wrote:
dont let the door hit you where the good lord [flash] split you
Please elaborate. I understand its easy making a personal attack, please explain why you feel Blizzards response was the correct one?
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On October 09 2019 08:12 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2019 07:59 BerserkSword wrote:
dont let the door hit you where the good lord [flash] split you Please elaborate. I understand its easy making a personal attack, please explain why you feel Blizzards response was the correct one?
Blizzard is a company. Companies need money to survive. Money comes from doing business in the market. China is one of their Blizzard's biggest markets. When the Hearthstone GM (and I guess the casters) broke the EULA and compromised Blizzard's ability to do business in one of its biggest markets, Blizzard did what it was entitled to do as both a business and one of the the entities in the EULA, in order to control any damage done.
Whether or not Blizzard made the correct move from a business standpoint is yet to be seen. However Blizzard was completely within its rights to do what it did. Saving their business from catastrophe doesnt mean they are oppressing human rights. They are not complicit in anything the Chinese central government is doing.
The Hearthstone GM hijacked the platform Blizzard gave him to endangered Blizzard's business.
You break rules, like the ones in the EULA, you face the consequences. It's as simple as that.
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I deleted all my battle.net stuff when I heard about it.
also because I barely played any of them and needed enough space to download Destiny 2
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On October 09 2019 08:26 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2019 08:12 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:On October 09 2019 07:59 BerserkSword wrote:
dont let the door hit you where the good lord [flash] split you Please elaborate. I understand its easy making a personal attack, please explain why you feel Blizzards response was the correct one? Blizzard is a company. Companies need money to survive. Money comes from doing business in the market. China is one of their Blizzard's biggest markets. When the Hearthstone GM (and I guess the casters) broke the EULA and compromised Blizzard's ability to do business in one of its biggest markets, Blizzard did what it was entitled to do as both a business and one of the the entities in the EULA, in order to control any damage done. Whether or not Blizzard made the correct move from a business standpoint is yet to be seen. However Blizzard was completely within its rights to do what it did. Saving their business from catastrophe doesnt mean they are oppressing human rights. They are not complicit in anything the Chinese central government is doing. The Hearthstone GM hijacked the platform Blizzard gave him to endangered Blizzard's business. You break rules, like the ones in the EULA, you face the consequences. It's as simple as that.
That is correct, Blizzard is not complicit in the Chinese Communist Party being corrupt fascist totalitarian garbage
Blizzard is merely bending the knee to the Chinese Communist Party
Until someone stands up to the Chinese Communist Party this kind of nonsense will increase
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On October 09 2019 08:26 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2019 08:12 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:On October 09 2019 07:59 BerserkSword wrote:
dont let the door hit you where the good lord [flash] split you Please elaborate. I understand its easy making a personal attack, please explain why you feel Blizzards response was the correct one? Blizzard is a company. Companies need money to survive. Money comes from doing business in the market. China is one of their Blizzard's biggest markets. When the Hearthstone GM (and I guess the casters) broke the EULA and compromised Blizzard's ability to do business in one of its biggest markets, Blizzard did what it was entitled to do as both a business and one of the the entities in the EULA, in order to control any damage done. Whether or not Blizzard made the correct move from a business standpoint is yet to be seen. However Blizzard was completely within its rights to do what it did. Saving their business from catastrophe doesnt mean they are oppressing human rights. They are not complicit in anything the Chinese central government is doing. The Hearthstone GM hijacked the platform Blizzard gave him to endangered Blizzard's business. You break rules, like the ones in the EULA, you face the consequences. It's as simple as that.
it is a company-- and not taking a stand on this is a wasted opportunity. would have many positive externalities and make good press to be the exception.
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