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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-28 05:33:00
May 28 2007 03:00 GMT
#1
Lemme preface this with a huge thank-you to Carnac who maintains a statistics thread that I use extensively. I'm gonna take a look at the best 1v1 players in ProLeague so far this season, it's a pretty interesting pack.

At the top of the list right now is Stork of all people, at a staggering 8-2. This guy showed flickers of brilliance YEARS ago, and then fizzled out and disappointed everyone. Now he's somehow found his groove and he's on an absolute tear. His play, similar to the play of the rest of Samsung's 1v1 squad, is based around intelligent build orders rather than unstoppable mechanics, making his games really fun to watch. Whether this is more of the same flash-in-the-pan bullshit we saw last time, we won't know until he plays a little more in the singles leagues. I'm hoping he's here to stay, even if he does look vaguely like a pimpled fish.

Next on the list is the coolest motherfucker in progaming, Sea[Shield] at 8-3. His wins have been dominant and his loss to free on Tau Cross was an incredible game. Tau Cross is incredibly hard for Terran against Protoss, especially when that Protoss is free[gm] on a hot streak. His other two losses came on the same day, very soon after July left MBC. He played like seeping ass in both of the games, and really didn't look like his usual confident, fearless self. Even his play didn't have the edge it usually does. He really didn't take July's departure well, maybe it showed in those games. I was pretty relieved watching him play themania[mst], because he seemed to be back on track. This kid ain't done making noise yet.

With the same score of 8-3 we got Nal_rA. I think we all really expect rA to do well all the time. For a guy with such brilliant mechanics and game sense, its a wonder he banks some of his games on wierd build orders, some of which don't really work. All three of his losses I watched, and all three I cringed at, because he could have done a multitude of things better. Things we expect Nal_rA to do better. On the other hand, he's a large reason (along with Reach/Zergboy's recent 2v2 success and Hery winning some clutch games every so often) why KTF is sitting up in 4th place. Granted though, they're barely hovering above .500.

We also have Hwasin at 7-2, a respectable score that Stork, Sea, and rA had at one point during the season. Hwasin seems determined to prove he's not just a one-match wonder, and with more wins in TvP than TvZ (3 and 2, respectively.. no losses!) he's certainly a step closer. His TvT is only 2-2, and its still his weak point. This is why I didn't understand the hype surrounding Sheis. Ooooh, Ahhhh... Its Hwasin's secret TvT practice partner!! AND he BEATS Hwasin more often than not!!!!! Hoo-fucking-rah, him and half the other terrans in progaming. Still, Hwasin has been playing strongly lately, so he can pick up his TvT and keep his TvP somewhat respectable, he's got a shot at earning Etter's respect yet.

Then we got Luxury[GsP], previously known as "the twin that sucks more at zerg than the other twin". Well, Luxury is 6-1. He finally lost a game the other day, after a six game win streak. Free went on a six-game win streak to open his season too, but now free has four losses and only one more win. I'm eager to see if Luxury, who really doesn't seem like the sort of zerg to excel to a notable degree, can keep up his seemingly uncharacteristic strong play. OGN has a good thing going with these brothers, cuz Yellow[Arnc] is 6-2 with partners Zeus and go.go[gsp]. If only Chalrenge would stop fucking losing in ProLeague these guys might have a decent shot in the playoffs!

Also at 6-1 is the ever-present, always un-noticed Canata. Strong play, yadda yadda, do we even really care at this point? Canata was promised to be the next big thing but he chokes so hard in individual leagues you'd think his opponent's dick was down his throat. Canata's games aren't even really fun to watch. I just look forward to the playoffs where Canata can play in an Ace Match and wow everybody again. Watching players give you so much less than they are capable, over and over again, is a horrible sight whether they're winning or not. Shape up, canata


So those are the guys who are tearing up the 1v1 circuit right now. Maybe I'll do something on the 2v2 teams (max/fantastic_namoo come outta nowhere oh man). We still got a few matches of ProLeague yet, and with the scores the way they are, everything but Samsung's progression is up in the air. Second place is STX SouL with 6-4, and 8th place is CJ Entus with 6-6. Close fucking pack! It's gonna be fun.

Love,
FakeSteve

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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
May 28 2007 03:28 GMT
#2
Awesome, enjoyed reading it. :O
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10835 Posts
May 28 2007 03:39 GMT
#3
it's probably a bad sign when the thing i notice most about this post is the creepy "Love, FakeSteve" at the bottom >.<
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 28 2007 03:49 GMT
#4
On May 28 2007 12:39 LosingID8 wrote:
it's probably a bad sign when the thing i notice most about this post is the creepy "Love, FakeSteve" at the bottom >.<


i love you
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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
May 28 2007 03:59 GMT
#5
who was max's old 2v2 partner? he's been solid 2v2 since i've been watching proleague
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 28 2007 04:03 GMT
#6
well he used to be on the old KOR team and he got like no help at all

KOR->OGN and their 2v2 is just now starting to turn around because they have a team that works
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KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
May 28 2007 04:16 GMT
#7
Nice read. 5*
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
May 28 2007 05:30 GMT
#8
Where's the thank you Carnac for the statistics. Fuck you, you chimp!

On a more serious note we do actually have more than just "a few matches of ProLeague yet". Don't forget that this season it is double-round robin, meaning that each team will play each other twice before the playoffs start

Other than the players that you mentioned (good and obvious picks) I'd say Much is definitely worth mentioning.

If you do write sth about 2v2 please rant on how the SKTT1 coach is a fucking douche bag for switching teams every single play day. If he was just a tiny little bit smarter SKTT1 would be 2nd ranked easily. After all each of their losses was a 2-3. They have good 1v1 stats and if they used oov more, Midas more intelligently (i.e. in game 1 or 2, not in ace) and didn't change the 2v2 partners all time they'd rape for sure.

Nice read anyway.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 28 2007 05:32 GMT
#9
oh damn i actually meant to put one in i was gonna end with it and then i forgot

the only guy ive watched every game of is Sea so your thread definitely came in handy cuz i was off by a few games on everyone else in my head
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
May 28 2007 05:37 GMT
#10
I was only halfway serious anyway

Btw, I don't really agree on Tau Cross being that bad for TvP. Almost sounds like it's taking away a bit from Free
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 28 2007 05:43 GMT
#11
It was a good game by both of them but its incredibly hard for a terran to move ANYWHERE on Tau Cross, and since its easy for a protoss to grab and defend a lot of expos, terran doesn't have the option of rolling across the map arcadia style.

hell arcadia was bad for tvp to and tau is even more open! and it has more gas for templar!

Just think about it, in order for a terran to kill a protoss hes gotta go all the way to where the protoss is unless the protoss is being stupid and throwing shit at him. Free played the match like a fucking champ, he waited until Sea picked up and tried to move, and stormed the shit out of him on the bridges. In the meantime, he intelligently defended his expansions from Sea's constant drops and harass. It was an incredible game though!
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
May 28 2007 05:49 GMT
#12
Well, Terran can easily secure 3-4 bases (3 gas) as well, so it's not that bad imho.
And yeah, the game was great, certainly one of my favourite Proleague games so far this season. At least from the ones I have seen myself.
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
May 28 2007 06:45 GMT
#13
Nice read Steve. You better be careful taking about Ra like that though. It's making it harder and harder for DJ to ignore him in the PR each month.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 29 2007 00:03 GMT
#14
UPDATE!

Hwasin is now 8-2, four way tie for most wins. Samsung plays tonight but stork isnt on the list so maybe it will stay that way for a few days
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
May 30 2007 03:23 GMT
#15
Luxury lost a ZvP again, he's now 6-2
Stork played the ace game and won
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