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Elephant question in the room: IS TERRAN OP?

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NotJumperer United States1371 Posts August 24 2017 19:33 GMT #1 --- Nuked ---

SCC-Faust United States3736 Posts August 24 2017 19:34 GMT #2 This video makes me irrationally angry. Also I believe the general consensus on that video is the person took a lot of things out of context, as some of the things said were facetious and not to be taken seriously.

aFF]ZuluNAtion[ Poland173 Posts August 24 2017 19:35 GMT #3 Tesagi is real, everyone know it, i dont see any point of discussion here.

Keniji Netherlands2569 Posts August 24 2017 19:38 GMT #4 Stork saying double proxy is countered by rax fe is all you need to know about the seriousness of the video.

neptunusfisk 2286 Posts August 24 2017 19:38 GMT #5 Nothing in the video is anything that hasn't been discussed to death ten years ago. Old players are beyond that and discuss how to get better instead. And yeah, the whole point of Starcraft is that the design is assymetric. This means that the races are good at different things. If the game was crazy imbalanced, the pro leagues wouldn't have near perfect 50% winrates in every matchup over 20 years. And you might say "but the pros discuss it, and they are old players!" but guess what? These clips show them getting asked about it/having the discussion brought up since "many fans have started to discuss it" and they still can't say anything stronger than "vultures are pretty good if you control them right, and flash is pretty damn good". And that's when they're drunk.

BigFan TLADT24920 Posts August 24 2017 19:43 GMT #6 Moved to blogs.

Letmelose Korea (South)3227 Posts August 26 2017 03:20 GMT #7 Within the context of 128 x 128 sized, four player maps with a main base with 9 mineral fields and a single vespene gas, having a single entrance that leads to a natural expansion that also has vespene gas, with a reasonably narrow entrance of its own so that protoss can expand against the zerg race without getting butt-fucked, yes, terran is the most powerful race at professional level, although the extent of the imbalance is up for debate. The standard maps that make up the bulk of most map pools have been friendly towards the terran race, and unfavourable for the protoss race in general. Deviating slightly from the current set-up to help the protoss race, usually results in zergs being useless, instead of the original intention of nerfing the edge the terran race has over the other two races, taking place. Island maps, maps with extremely high mineral count, and maps with easily walled-in naturals makes the zerg race next to useless against the other two races, although these are the kind of things that help the protoss race. From the current set-up, adding a mineral-only expansions inside the main base, like Andromeda, or reducing the starting position to three spots, with unfriendly features for the terran race like Aztec, prevents the terran race from being the most powerful race, but it's like picking your poison, having zerg or protoss domination, instead of the current terran imbalance, instead of making things more even. Because it is so hard to have some kind of parity between the three races without having to resort to match-up specific maps, most map makers have settled on the current status of balance (T > Z > P >= T), where the imbalance isn't too out of whack. It's a not perfect, but it's what most map makers have come to terms with.

Charoisaur Germany16076 Posts August 26 2017 13:52 GMT #8 Is this a parody thread?

ninazerg United States7291 Posts August 26 2017 19:11 GMT #9 1 scout > 100 tanks

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